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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On August 26 2014 00:50 jxx wrote: Ugh, if they want a more dynamic metagame then MAKE SOME FUCKING GOOD CARDS not just 1 or 2 viable ones from each block. This just reeks of pure greed. Pathetic. That's pretty impressive stupidity. | ||
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GoSuNamhciR
125 Posts
Agreed. If they printed a TON of staple cards every set all cards would be worthless after 2-3 years due to power creep. Having 2 to 3 really good cards in each set that are very playable but not busted in eternal formats (i.e Stormbreath Dragon, Return to the Ranks, Chord of Calling, Mana Confluence, Brimaz from recent sets) and having 1-3 staples in an ENTIRE BLOCK (Snapcaster Mage, Deathrite Shaman, Thoughtseize, Eidolon of the Great Revel, etc) is the way to do it. When you print super busted sets like the more recent Innistrad or Zendikar you see what happens. Those packs are ridiculously expensive which further raises price on the cards because there is more unopened stock when theres multiple godly pulls. I know a store that was actually stockpiling Innistrad before they stopped print just to mark them up later, which was an obvious choice given the power level of the set | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
Block + Core was Big - Small - Small - Big and those last years (INN and RTR) you even had 3 Big sets and only 1 small one. The new set structure is 2 bigs + 2 smalls, so that's either the same as it used to be or LESS. They're not even gonna print more cards, just offer twice the contents they used to offer regarding mechanics/flavor/standard. There's a reason everybody is loving this change. | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On August 31 2014 16:33 Whole wrote: fetchlands confirmed I had to check my spoiler just to make sure this morning and you're right. Whelp I'll see you guys in two years. Maybe state of play will be good when we go to 2/2/2 blocks.  | ||
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LennX
4564 Posts
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
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annedeman
Netherlands350 Posts
On August 31 2014 22:13 deth2munkies wrote: Personally I'm excited, more accessible fetches that can replace the super-expensive ZEN ones in Modern, and a Standard manabase that won't suck quite as much. this will also be a very welcome drain on the ZEN fetch prizes, as decks will be fighting among the same fetches way less reducing the demand for the Zendikar ones. Also for symmetry between shards and wedges it was very relevant to make the full cycle available in modern. shards only had 4 on colour fetches, meaning they could search basics to preserve life alot less often, now they will have 9-12. | ||
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GoSuNamhciR
125 Posts
On August 31 2014 17:18 Cixah wrote: I had to check my spoiler just to make sure this morning and you're right. Whelp I'll see you guys in two years. Maybe state of play will be good when we go to 2/2/2 blocks. Whats wrong with fetches? They allow so many more strategies to be viable. Also just like with the shocklands that are currently in standard they will turn on alot of the aggressive and midrange decks. There are no oppressive cards like sphinx's revelation or good fetchable dual lands so 4 color decks is still unlikely even with a lot of fetch lands. If somebody really wants to build a 12 fetch land deck with 5-6 pain lands and 6-7 basics, be my guest. They will only die to every single aggro deck while they may be able to out reach all the midrange decks playing goodstuffs. Fetchlands allow the metagame to be so diverse, I am looking forward to. If you actually think playing mono colored devotion was fun, then you are part of the very few as this has generally been least liked block for most since Kamigawa. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On September 01 2014 19:24 GoSuNamhciR wrote: Whats wrong with fetches? They allow so many more strategies to be viable. Also just like with the shocklands that are currently in standard they will turn on alot of the aggressive and midrange decks. There are no oppressive cards like sphinx's revelation or good fetchable dual lands so 4 color decks is still unlikely even with a lot of fetch lands. If somebody really wants to build a 12 fetch land deck with 5-6 pain lands and 6-7 basics, be my guest. They will only die to every single aggro deck while they may be able to out reach all the midrange decks playing goodstuffs. Fetchlands allow the metagame to be so diverse, I am looking forward to. If you actually think playing mono colored devotion was fun, then you are part of the very few as this has generally been least liked block for most since Kamigawa. Lol I pity the fools who don't remember masque block. | ||
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Antares777
United States1971 Posts
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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On September 02 2014 00:04 Thieving Magpie wrote: Lol I pity the fools who don't remember masque block. "Since Kamigawa" (even in that range, personally I liked Theros more than SoM block but eh) | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On September 02 2014 01:13 Elyvilon wrote: "Since Kamigawa" (even in that range, personally I liked Theros more than SoM block but eh) Mostly the fact that mono colored was the only viable way to play due to a certain "cough" Rishadan port "cough" so that it was like everyone played devotion for no reason than a restricted mana base. Death by stinging barrier woot woot! | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On September 02 2014 01:13 Elyvilon wrote: "Since Kamigawa" (even in that range, personally I liked Theros more than SoM block but eh) Thieving Magpie is just a troll in this thread, don't pay attention. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On September 02 2014 04:31 deth2munkies wrote: Masques block was just all rebels all the time wasn't it? Mono black control, monoblue tempo, UW control, Wx Aggro, and various Gx midrange. Except the games were slower, all spells were expensive, and finishers were anemic. | ||
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GoSuNamhciR
125 Posts
But there was NOTHING fun about theros. Limited you knew you lost like 5 turns before you lost, or you knew u were going to win 5 turns before you finally won. Every game was like that, or some retarded blowout that happened out of nowhere. I remember in Theros pre-release I pumped a creature to 20 power with 3 cards just because I happened to have it. Stuff like that isn't fun. And don't get me started on the super bland standard... I am excited to see a deck built around Aetherspouts post rotation as its removal of choice... instant speed wipe that allows you to keep or build your presence. We could see some really fun U/X/X decks in this next block. I actually dropped from an event I was doing well in just to play a Legacy side event because I wasn't having fun in that constructed format lol | ||
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
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DEN1ED
United States1087 Posts
On September 03 2014 05:24 RoieTRS wrote: Why hate fetch lands? Hate shuffling your deck I guess? Nonsense. Shuffling is half the reason I play magic. | ||
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Hayl_Storm
The Shire633 Posts
On September 04 2014 08:40 DEN1ED wrote: Nonsense. Shuffling is half the reason I play magic. As somebody who plays Pod and Maverick I have to agree. | ||
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