• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:25
CEST 19:25
KST 02:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror4[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)77Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4) SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Sagi.gg Launcher Released SC4ALL II Brood War Complete Invited Player Lineup 20-year-old Valorant player starting StarCraft Bot on ladder
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal B [ASL22] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8036 users

Magic: The Gathering - Page 540

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 538 539 540 541 542 665 Next
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 18 2014 23:05 GMT
#10781
On May 19 2014 03:56 mr_tolkien wrote:
"An old thing that everybody asked for is coming back"

My money is on allied fetches... Like everybody I guess ?


Allied fetches are likely the case but hopefully not. I really don't want fetch lands to come back to standard.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 19 2014 02:08 GMT
#10782
On May 19 2014 08:05 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 03:56 mr_tolkien wrote:
"An old thing that everybody asked for is coming back"

My money is on allied fetches... Like everybody I guess ?


Allied fetches are likely the case but hopefully not. I really don't want fetch lands to come back to standard.


They're going have to, Modern is impossible to get into right now and Legacy is like super touchy for collectors. Wizards could fix this to some limited extent or at least stave some of it off if they released a not shitty MtGO client, but hey I have friends with legacy decks so whatever.
Get it by your hands...
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 19 2014 02:41 GMT
#10783
On May 19 2014 11:08 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 08:05 Cixah wrote:
On May 19 2014 03:56 mr_tolkien wrote:
"An old thing that everybody asked for is coming back"

My money is on allied fetches... Like everybody I guess ?


Allied fetches are likely the case but hopefully not. I really don't want fetch lands to come back to standard.


They're going have to, Modern is impossible to get into right now and Legacy is like super touchy for collectors. Wizards could fix this to some limited extent or at least stave some of it off if they released a not shitty MtGO client, but hey I have friends with legacy decks so whatever.


I'd be fine with printing them in some kind of "Legacy Masters" run or something like that. I just really don't like fetch lands in standard. Makes the "buy in" for a format that is supposed to be low in cost too high IMO.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
May 19 2014 03:07 GMT
#10784
On May 19 2014 11:41 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 11:08 Judicator wrote:
On May 19 2014 08:05 Cixah wrote:
On May 19 2014 03:56 mr_tolkien wrote:
"An old thing that everybody asked for is coming back"

My money is on allied fetches... Like everybody I guess ?


Allied fetches are likely the case but hopefully not. I really don't want fetch lands to come back to standard.


They're going have to, Modern is impossible to get into right now and Legacy is like super touchy for collectors. Wizards could fix this to some limited extent or at least stave some of it off if they released a not shitty MtGO client, but hey I have friends with legacy decks so whatever.


I'd be fine with printing them in some kind of "Legacy Masters" run or something like that. I just really don't like fetch lands in standard. Makes the "buy in" for a format that is supposed to be low in cost too high IMO.


I dunno, greedy 3 color decks can still get by on temples and M10 lands without fetches, and the Ravnica lands got more than halved in price since being reprinted in standard, so fetches shouldn't really be out of the question.

That said, it's a Steppe Nomad set, Horsemanship and Flanking.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
May 19 2014 03:48 GMT
#10785
I'd rather have them remove the no-reprint list, but a man can only dream T_T
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 19 2014 04:23 GMT
#10786
On May 19 2014 12:07 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 11:41 Cixah wrote:
On May 19 2014 11:08 Judicator wrote:
On May 19 2014 08:05 Cixah wrote:
On May 19 2014 03:56 mr_tolkien wrote:
"An old thing that everybody asked for is coming back"

My money is on allied fetches... Like everybody I guess ?


Allied fetches are likely the case but hopefully not. I really don't want fetch lands to come back to standard.


They're going have to, Modern is impossible to get into right now and Legacy is like super touchy for collectors. Wizards could fix this to some limited extent or at least stave some of it off if they released a not shitty MtGO client, but hey I have friends with legacy decks so whatever.


I'd be fine with printing them in some kind of "Legacy Masters" run or something like that. I just really don't like fetch lands in standard. Makes the "buy in" for a format that is supposed to be low in cost too high IMO.


I dunno, greedy 3 color decks can still get by on temples and M10 lands without fetches, and the Ravnica lands got more than halved in price since being reprinted in standard, so fetches shouldn't really be out of the question.

That said, it's a Steppe Nomad set, Horsemanship and Flanking.


Banding. It's banding.
Get it by your hands...
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 19 2014 04:28 GMT
#10787
Aren't fetches less good without shock lands? Seems like they would be weak in standard.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 19 2014 04:35 GMT
#10788
You can't have perfect mana with no restrictions, not in standard at least.
Get it by your hands...
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-19 08:23:51
May 19 2014 08:23 GMT
#10789
I don't see how fetches would be bad in standard. You would only be able to fetch basics, it's nearly strictly worst than Ravlands... And they'd be cheap if in a large and drafted set.
The legend of Darien lives on
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 19 2014 12:56 GMT
#10790
I was talking about the combination of fetches and shocklands.
Get it by your hands...
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 19 2014 13:42 GMT
#10791
On May 19 2014 13:23 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 12:07 deth2munkies wrote:
On May 19 2014 11:41 Cixah wrote:
On May 19 2014 11:08 Judicator wrote:
On May 19 2014 08:05 Cixah wrote:
On May 19 2014 03:56 mr_tolkien wrote:
"An old thing that everybody asked for is coming back"

My money is on allied fetches... Like everybody I guess ?


Allied fetches are likely the case but hopefully not. I really don't want fetch lands to come back to standard.


They're going have to, Modern is impossible to get into right now and Legacy is like super touchy for collectors. Wizards could fix this to some limited extent or at least stave some of it off if they released a not shitty MtGO client, but hey I have friends with legacy decks so whatever.


I'd be fine with printing them in some kind of "Legacy Masters" run or something like that. I just really don't like fetch lands in standard. Makes the "buy in" for a format that is supposed to be low in cost too high IMO.


I dunno, greedy 3 color decks can still get by on temples and M10 lands without fetches, and the Ravnica lands got more than halved in price since being reprinted in standard, so fetches shouldn't really be out of the question.

That said, it's a Steppe Nomad set, Horsemanship and Flanking.


Banding. It's banding.

Dang, beat me to it
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
May 19 2014 15:06 GMT
#10792
So it turns out Conspiracy looks really fun AND that Dack Fayden is indeed the greatest thief in the multiverse.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
May 19 2014 15:18 GMT
#10793
On May 19 2014 11:41 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 11:08 Judicator wrote:
On May 19 2014 08:05 Cixah wrote:
On May 19 2014 03:56 mr_tolkien wrote:
"An old thing that everybody asked for is coming back"

My money is on allied fetches... Like everybody I guess ?


Allied fetches are likely the case but hopefully not. I really don't want fetch lands to come back to standard.


They're going have to, Modern is impossible to get into right now and Legacy is like super touchy for collectors. Wizards could fix this to some limited extent or at least stave some of it off if they released a not shitty MtGO client, but hey I have friends with legacy decks so whatever.


I'd be fine with printing them in some kind of "Legacy Masters" run or something like that. I just really don't like fetch lands in standard. Makes the "buy in" for a format that is supposed to be low in cost too high IMO.

I don't think it'll be too bad. 8 fetches at the hypothetical reprint price of $30 (imo they could go down as low as $20) would be $240. That would put standard decks ~$500 which is not uncommon for past standard decks. This current standard season has also been one of the least expensive seasons in a long time.
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
May 19 2014 16:06 GMT
#10794
Fetches would likely go up in price due to demand increasing faster than supply, though eventually they could end up cheaper. Also pretty sure wotc hates shuffling and would like to avoid fetches in standard if they could avoid it.
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22647 Posts
May 19 2014 16:21 GMT
#10795
Fetch shuffles + scry from Theros. Almost sounds like modern
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
May 19 2014 16:23 GMT
#10796
On May 20 2014 01:06 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Fetches would likely go up in price due to demand increasing faster than supply, though eventually they could end up cheaper. Also pretty sure wotc hates shuffling and would like to avoid fetches in standard if they could avoid it.

Look at the thoughtseize price trajectory... I can only see it go up in the very first week of release.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 19 2014 16:26 GMT
#10797
On May 20 2014 01:23 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 01:06 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Fetches would likely go up in price due to demand increasing faster than supply, though eventually they could end up cheaper. Also pretty sure wotc hates shuffling and would like to avoid fetches in standard if they could avoid it.

Look at the thoughtseize price trajectory... I can only see it go up in the very first week of release.


Misleading, Thoughtseize is no where the staple that are fetches.
Get it by your hands...
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 19 2014 18:08 GMT
#10798
On May 20 2014 00:06 deth2munkies wrote:
So it turns out Conspiracy looks really fun AND that Dack Fayden is indeed the greatest thief in the multiverse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U09xnozP3gQ

Nathan Holt is pretty cool. His Walking the Planes series is really good.

On the topic of Fetch Lands, I really want them reprinted. Ally or Enemy coloured is fine (Both > Allied > Enemy). While the potential for price spikes is a thing, at the same time these aren't cards on the reserved list. With enemy fetches already in Modern, Allied fetches would make deck building much smoother too since only having enemy colour does make things fairly restrictive.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
May 19 2014 18:33 GMT
#10799
On May 20 2014 03:08 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 00:06 deth2munkies wrote:
So it turns out Conspiracy looks really fun AND that Dack Fayden is indeed the greatest thief in the multiverse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U09xnozP3gQ

Nathan Holt is pretty cool. His Walking the Planes series is really good.

On the topic of Fetch Lands, I really want them reprinted. Ally or Enemy coloured is fine (Both > Allied > Enemy). While the potential for price spikes is a thing, at the same time these aren't cards on the reserved list. With enemy fetches already in Modern, Allied fetches would make deck building much smoother too since only having enemy colour does make things fairly restrictive.


As a legacy player, I am scared of what would happen to my Windswept Heaths if Modern gets its grubby price hiking hands on them...

I'd be forced to sell them and play other decks! The horror! The humanity! The $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 19 2014 18:42 GMT
#10800
On May 20 2014 03:33 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 03:08 MoonBear wrote:
On May 20 2014 00:06 deth2munkies wrote:
So it turns out Conspiracy looks really fun AND that Dack Fayden is indeed the greatest thief in the multiverse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U09xnozP3gQ

Nathan Holt is pretty cool. His Walking the Planes series is really good.

On the topic of Fetch Lands, I really want them reprinted. Ally or Enemy coloured is fine (Both > Allied > Enemy). While the potential for price spikes is a thing, at the same time these aren't cards on the reserved list. With enemy fetches already in Modern, Allied fetches would make deck building much smoother too since only having enemy colour does make things fairly restrictive.


As a legacy player, I am scared of what would happen to my Windswept Heaths if Modern gets its grubby price hiking hands on them...

I'd be forced to sell them and play other decks! The horror! The humanity! The $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

And instead you can pick up the Blue Fetches and play Legacy the way it was meant to be played.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Prev 1 538 539 540 541 542 665 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Patches Events
01:00
Patch Clash Monthly #2
RotterdaM660
TKL 256
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 660
ByuN 316
TKL 256
mouzHeroMarine 115
UpATreeSC 71
BRAT_OK 39
MindelVK 9
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 25569
Calm 3301
Shuttle 1141
Horang2 527
Soulkey 196
Rush 132
Dewaltoss 121
Zeus 64
Free 37
Hyun 34
[ Show more ]
sorry 30
Trap 25
Killer 19
ToSsGirL 19
PianO 17
Bale 16
JYJ 16
Rock 15
Aegong 15
scan(afreeca) 13
Hm[arnc] 11
Sacsri 7
Noble 5
Dota 2
Gorgc7086
Dendi1219
League of Legends
KnowMe53
Counter-Strike
fl0m4540
Fnx 616
pashabiceps572
x6flipin515
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King89
Other Games
singsing1948
Liquid`RaSZi1457
Beastyqt662
ceh9451
Khaldor330
C9.Mang0316
dupreeh199
crisheroes183
420jenkins179
IndyStarCraft 151
Trikslyr89
QueenE85
Grubby16
JuggernautJason10
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream30
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH280
• Hinosc 12
• EnkiAlexander 9
• Reevou 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3224
• WagamamaTV527
League of Legends
• Nemesis2900
• TFBlade585
Other Games
• Shiphtur831
• imaqtpie370
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
16h 35m
INu's Battles
17h 35m
Percival vs SHIN
Zoun vs herO
OSC
19h 35m
OSC
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 5h
OSC
2 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Patches Events
3 days
BSL Open Qualifier
4 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Open Qualifier
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
HCC Season 3
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.