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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
January 16 2014 13:08 GMT
#10161
Well my actual purpose is that me and a friend are going to buy a box of Born of the Gods, and we want to practice sealed between each other early in the format to try to help us evaluate some cards. And BotG sealed will be 3 Theros, 3 BotG, right?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 16 2014 17:08 GMT
#10162
It will be 3 Theros, 2 BotG, and 1 seeded BotG pack.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
January 16 2014 17:13 GMT
#10163
On January 17 2014 02:08 slOosh wrote:
It will be 3 Theros, 2 BotG, and 1 seeded BotG pack.

The seeded pack is only for prerelease though, right?
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
January 16 2014 17:13 GMT
#10164
Searing blaze 2.0 is going to be siiiick. Definitely going to revisit burn post BNG.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 16 2014 18:45 GMT
#10165
On January 17 2014 02:13 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2014 02:08 slOosh wrote:
It will be 3 Theros, 2 BotG, and 1 seeded BotG pack.

The seeded pack is only for prerelease though, right?

Yea, normal sealed will be 3-3.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-17 05:07:55
January 16 2014 22:37 GMT
#10166
Ok guys, tonight I'm running Storm Crow again, with a couple changes.

#1: 1 Argentum Armor, 1 Batterskull main (previously 2 Argentum Armor main)
  • Batterskull is sick vs UWR, UR Delver, and is often the right call vs Robots. Plus, it can stand alone or be attached to one of your guys off quest. Its sick.


#2: 2 Remand, 1 Argentum Armor, 1 Batterskull sideboard (previously 4 Remand)
  • Remand was just not mattering enough when I drew it. I don't want it early. I imagine after tonight I'll be looking for a different counterspell - the only things I really care about remanding are the things I really never want to see again.


Thats it for the mainboard. I think the rest of my Storm Crows are coming in tonight, if so I'll post a pic of my full deck! I'll also post my matchups tonight as I finish them.

[EDIT] R1 I don't even remember, R2 Bye, R3 Soul Sisters (went to time in a draw, I kept horrible hands), and R4 some sort of naya defender ajani gideon brew idefk. Bad games, storm crows aren't up to par, not happy.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
January 17 2014 01:03 GMT
#10167
Guess people bitched enough about Mono Black for the last trillion standard cycles, some more nice cards for the deck in BoG.
Get it by your hands...
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
January 17 2014 01:22 GMT
#10168
On January 17 2014 10:03 Judicator wrote:
Guess people bitched enough about Mono Black for the last trillion standard cycles, some more nice cards for the deck in BoG.

Yeah but no modern and beyond impact so... blech :/
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
January 17 2014 04:55 GMT
#10169
On January 17 2014 10:22 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2014 10:03 Judicator wrote:
Guess people bitched enough about Mono Black for the last trillion standard cycles, some more nice cards for the deck in BoG.

Yeah but no modern and beyond impact so... blech :/


The new Infest will see play instead of the old Infest.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
January 17 2014 04:56 GMT
#10170
The old infest sees play? O_0
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
January 17 2014 05:38 GMT
#10171
Not that I know of.

The king of the cats seems pretty good.
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
January 17 2014 06:16 GMT
#10172
Alright. I'm building a Cruel Control for Modern with a shoddy mana base (UR shock, BR check, BU check, BR manland, basics) - and I'm trying to decide between Geth's verdict and Far//Away. Is the added versatility worth the added mana cost for far//away?

Also, is Chandra's Phoenix a good option? I feel like it could help in grinding down the game. Sadly neither Geth's Verdict nor Countersquall trigger it. :S Blightning, Ultimatum, Molten Rain, and Volcanic Fallout do, though.

I've also been thinking about running Spellheart Chimera, but with graveyard hate being so commonplace I don't think that'd work. It's also in bolt range. I've tried Ashenmoor Gouger too, and it was ok, I guess. Anyway, do I even need a creature dedicated to beating down the opponent? So far I've been relying mostly on my manlands + Cruel Ultimatum to win the game, but the deck doesn't have any real win condition if I can't cast Ultimatum and my Lavaclaws get killed.

Creeping Tar Pits and Snapcasters would probably help but I don't have the money for them atm.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
January 17 2014 07:11 GMT
#10173
Far//Away for sure if you're running subotimal mana.

+ Show Spoiler +

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtBuue4ZU_pmdGt4aDNvbTctRzRSdUtYZmJnUlRZa2c#gid=1


My cruel list I run with some results. Has other decks some of the guys run in it as well.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
January 17 2014 08:09 GMT
#10174
On January 17 2014 13:55 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2014 10:22 Risen wrote:
On January 17 2014 10:03 Judicator wrote:
Guess people bitched enough about Mono Black for the last trillion standard cycles, some more nice cards for the deck in BoG.

Yeah but no modern and beyond impact so... blech :/


The new Infest will see play instead of the old Infest.


It's clearly worse than Infest. What happens when my opponent flips it with Nightveil Specter? I don't want them to scry for 1. Damn you, Wizards.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
January 17 2014 11:33 GMT
#10175
I keep changing my mind on what I want to build for modern. Aggro loam, 4C gifts, or a brew of Esper cawblade so I can equip swords to tarpits?
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
January 17 2014 14:08 GMT
#10176
On January 17 2014 16:11 Risen wrote:
Far//Away for sure if you're running subotimal mana.

+ Show Spoiler +

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtBuue4ZU_pmdGt4aDNvbTctRzRSdUtYZmJnUlRZa2c#gid=1


My cruel list I run with some results. Has other decks some of the guys run in it as well.

woah 3 Talismans of Dominance? I guess it's for the ramp up to Ultimatum. You're running 3 of them too. huh

why Talismans over Signets/Cluestones? I'm even thinking of using Dimir Keyrune since I don't have Creeping Tar Pits.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
January 17 2014 18:05 GMT
#10177
You can tap talismans for mana the turn you play them, and they don't create awkward scenarios where they filter you out of being able to cast your spells like signets. Cluestones cost 3 and aren't Coalition Relic and thus are terrible.
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-17 19:37:02
January 17 2014 19:35 GMT
#10178
On January 17 2014 15:16 Fishgle wrote:
Alright. I'm building a Cruel Control for Modern with a shoddy mana base (UR shock, BR check, BU check, BR manland, basics) - and I'm trying to decide between Geth's verdict and Far//Away. Is the added versatility worth the added mana cost for far//away?

Also, is Chandra's Phoenix a good option? I feel like it could help in grinding down the game. Sadly neither Geth's Verdict nor Countersquall trigger it. :S Blightning, Ultimatum, Molten Rain, and Volcanic Fallout do, though.

I've also been thinking about running Spellheart Chimera, but with graveyard hate being so commonplace I don't think that'd work. It's also in bolt range. I've tried Ashenmoor Gouger too, and it was ok, I guess. Anyway, do I even need a creature dedicated to beating down the opponent? So far I've been relying mostly on my manlands + Cruel Ultimatum to win the game, but the deck doesn't have any real win condition if I can't cast Ultimatum and my Lavaclaws get killed.

Creeping Tar Pits and Snapcasters would probably help but I don't have the money for them atm.

Gourger is not what you want in your deck. No evasion, and doesn't keep you alive for longer. Either the other player will beat down your face since they kill you faster, combo out and ignore it or it gets walled by a Tarmogoyf forever. Chimera is ok but it fails the Bolt test. And in a low threat deck, it means it's not sticking around for very long (if at all). Phoenix is ok as a pseudo-man land but it's not very dependable and you have to run a lot of Red cards just to keep triggering it. If you want value, then Risen has it right in terms of using stuff like Mulldrifter.

If you're going to throw down something onto the battlefield as a finisher, make it really big. Grave Titan, Ætherling, a Thundermaw Hellkite, Wurmcoil Engine. Something big, fat and does something useful the moment it comes into play and really screams "fk you". Out of them, Grave Titan is probably the easiest to acquire and offers good value. Inferno Titan and Frost Titan are also decent fatties and have the benefit of being bulk dollar rares.

If you're having trouble with you manabase (and I suspect you don't have Fetches+Shocks) you can always try Reflecting Pool and Vivid Land Cycle which worked great in Lorwyn and I suspect will still be great in Modern. Or try the Filter Lands although some of them might be a bit pricey. But they are good ways to mimic the power of Shocks+Fetches. Out of them only Reflecting Pool is the pricey one, but you don't want to be running 4 of them anyway. Vivid Lands should be bulk cards that go for under a dollar each.

On January 17 2014 20:33 Shotcoder wrote:
I keep changing my mind on what I want to build for modern. Aggro loam, 4C gifts, or a brew of Esper cawblade so I can equip swords to tarpits?

Or you can play something hilarious like the Amulet of Vigor combo deck or Cheerios!

On a more serious note, Graveyard splash hate hurts hard. So just play whatever is most fun.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
January 17 2014 21:28 GMT
#10179
On January 18 2014 03:05 MCMcEmcee wrote:
You can tap talismans for mana the turn you play them, and they don't create awkward scenarios where they filter you out of being able to cast your spells like signets. Cluestones cost 3 and aren't Coalition Relic and thus are terrible.

This is huge. Note that I'm running gatekeeper of malakir. Triple black is hard to do with signets. I'm also running spell snare. Tapping out T2 and not having spell snare up can be really dangerous, especially when you are on the play.

Just noticed how old this list is. God I love seeing cruel, but I've dropped it to two for an additional meta card (damnation for me, could be an additional counter or something depending on what you need)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
January 17 2014 23:53 GMT
#10180
@Moonbear / MCMcEmcee / Risen
thanks! time to save up for snapcasters and cliques
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
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