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Fishgle
United States2174 Posts
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On December 28 2013 10:35 Fishgle wrote: awww yea. thanks Shotcoder. I had like 70% of those but that's exactly what I was looking for. Also, don't get stuck looking for sub-par copies of cards unless it has a unique role in the deck. Duress, for example, is not a good copy for Thoughtseize but works almost exactly like cabal therapy minus flashback. This is because Thoughtseize is a generalized disruption spell that spends as much time "killing creatures" as it does getting through counter magic. Duress and cabal therapy are almost strictly used to break through counter magic and to neuter combo/control decks. So in some meta games running dismember as a cheap Thoughtseize is the right call while in other meta games running duress as a cheap Thoughtseize is the right call. Etc... | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On December 31 2013 00:02 iGrok wrote: Kiora will bring the Return of the Super Friends. I'm calling BUG superfriends, with Ashiok, Kiora, Jace, GB chick, and a shitton of Fogs. And possibly also Frogs. I think you need Supreme Verdict for that deck, so it'd be Bant with Elspeth over Vraska/Ashiok. Or you could just go straight 4 colors because you're playing 4 Caryatids and a Kiora. Btw, I'd be surprised if it doesn't come back up, but I'm pivoting from Junk to Oros midrange. Playing maindeck Anger, Stormbreath, and Blood Baron (maybe singleton Obzedat) as well as Read the Bones and a dozen removal spells seems really good against the field today. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21987 Posts
On December 31 2013 01:13 deth2munkies wrote: I think you need Supreme Verdict for that deck, so it'd be Bant with Elspeth over Vraska/Ashiok. Or you could just go straight 4 colors because you're playing 4 Caryatids and a Kiora. Btw, I'd be surprised if it doesn't come back up, but I'm pivoting from Junk to Oros midrange. Playing maindeck Anger, Stormbreath, and Blood Baron (maybe singleton Obzedat) as well as Read the Bones and a dozen removal spells seems really good against the field today. Isnt your mana base pretty weak with 3 colors? You dont have the draws that UWx has or the fixing of green to cover for 3 colors. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On December 31 2013 01:28 Gorsameth wrote: Isnt your mana base pretty weak with 3 colors? You dont have the draws that UWx has or the fixing of green to cover for 3 colors. The mana is fine because you've got 12 shocklands and 8 scrylands. | ||
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Audemed
United States893 Posts
On December 31 2013 01:50 deth2munkies wrote: The mana is fine because you've got 12 shocklands and 8 scrylands. You can't run them all though. Unlike UWx, it needs to be casting stuff on curve, and having 20 lands CIPT end up destroying you. I ended up dropping a couple scrylands and a pair of shocks for extra basics, Made the mana better, but the deck still always drew the wrong half. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
You may be right, Bant Superfriends is more likely. A man can dream though... Just humor me and think about how awesome it would be. T3 Ashiok. T4 Kiora. T5 Vraska. BOOM! | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On December 31 2013 02:09 Judicator wrote: The mana isnt anywhere good enough. You need alara level fixing namely because of the deck space. There were, are, and will be 3 color decks in this format. I've actually played with the deck and it works just fine. Its only real bad matchup is Boros burn beacuse it can control the board well, but not its life total. | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
On December 31 2013 02:09 Judicator wrote: The mana isnt anywhere good enough. You need alara level fixing namely because of the deck space. I've been a BWR player since before rotation and I'm going to argue that mana now is better than mana before. The issue is still combating Blue decks with these colors. I haven't to play since Devotion became a thing and I think the deck has a spot it just needs to be more black based and rune connections in the main. It has all the answers the format asks for it just doesn't have the luxury of always finding them when it needs too like UW or Esper. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
Bant with Jace, Kiora, GW Ajani (its coming - although maybe not until JIN...), and GIDEON. Gideon Superfriends would be amazing in this meta. Shit, you might even be able to pull off a bant Fog deck now with Gideon. Dude's insane! | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21987 Posts
On December 31 2013 09:03 iGrok wrote: SHIIIIT I just realized something. Bant with Jace, Kiora, GW Ajani (its coming - although maybe not until JIN...), and GIDEON. Gideon Superfriends would be amazing in this meta. Shit, you might even be able to pull off a bant Fog deck now with Gideon. Dude's insane! ehm doesnt like half the format play Hero's Downfall to remove your planeswalkers? And most of the rest is playing counterspells and detention sphere Oo | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On December 31 2013 09:12 Gorsameth wrote: ehm doesnt like half the format play Hero's Downfall to remove your planeswalkers? And most of the rest is playing counterspells and detention sphere Oo I forgot about Downfall. I don't play much standard. But Gideon seems so well positioned against these mass creature decks (except for the massive "fuck you planeswalkers" spell). | ||
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
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eluv
United States1251 Posts
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
Current list for my cube. Expensive cards are 2 expensive with 2 unpaid weeks off for the holidays. Main upcoming change is swapping one of the weaker dual cycles for another set of shocks. Strict singleton is for chumps. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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Louuster
Canada2869 Posts
Although, for a lot of people myself included, the cool thing about cube is the interactions between formats all stars from before and now, as well as a chance to play with broken cards that are otherwise banned in every non vintage format (tinker blightsteel yes please) | ||
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FireSA
Australia555 Posts
EDIT: When I say flights I mean return airfare, not byes or anything. | ||
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