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eluv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
December 11 2013 04:10 GMT
#9961
I've been having way too much fun playing Modern Masters draft on MTGO the last few days - so sad it goes away soon. Some highlights include a turn 3, storm count 4 Empty, off the back of a bunch of spliced rituals, and attaching runed stalactite to my Greater Gargadon so I could sac it to Thallid Germinator, dodging a 16 damange Phthisis.
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 11 2013 04:47 GMT
#9962
Somehow, whenever I go MM draft, I always go either black or white or most likely both. Just love my rebels too much, P3 Blightspeaker is my shit.
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
December 12 2013 03:51 GMT
#9963
MMA is such a sweet format, too bad none of the locals draft or can afford MMA packs :V

GP went poorly, went 5-4 losing the last 3 rounds in a row to miss day 2 =/
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
FireSA
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia555 Posts
December 12 2013 04:13 GMT
#9964
Hmm so guys and gals, I have a GPT this weekend, planning on playing the following list:

4 Jace, Architect of Thought
2 Elspeth, Sun's Champ

4 Azorius Charm
4 Dissolve
1 Elixir of Immortality
4 Supreme Verdict
3 Divination
2 Syncopate
2 Quicken
4 Detention Sphere
4 Sphinx's Revelation

4 Azorius Guildgate
4 Hallowed Fountain
8 Island
2 Mutavault
8 Plains

SB: Prob 4 Gainsay, Planar Cleansing, 2 Fiendslayer Paladin, Aetherling, Mill Jace, negate, ratchet bomb, pithing needle and a couple of last breaths...something like that.

Opinions would be welcomed. Have not tested much, and what I tested went well, though games generally go pretty long. Which is fine. But yes, feedback would very much be appreciated
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
December 12 2013 05:44 GMT
#9965
Consider the following lobsters:

Glare of Heresy: to get rid of voice of resurgence
Aetherize: stall vs aggro and great against pack rats
Blind Obedience: for the drawn out control vs control
Render Silent: ionno. i just like this card
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
FireSA
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia555 Posts
December 12 2013 06:31 GMT
#9966
glare of heresy and blind obedience definitely have spots in the SB potentially. No need for render silent, despite the fact that I liked the card when I first saw it. But hmm. Cut a syncopate for a render silent in the mb? Dunno about aetherize, it is in my cards to potentially play (same with cyclonic), but not convinced
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 06:47:50
December 13 2013 06:46 GMT
#9967
I played my first Theros Sealed event yesterday and it was awesome.

I managed to get some good white/blue/black card to build some kind of Agressive Control deck (I can post the deck-list later on). While it had some control options to get advantages, it also had creatures, bestow creatures and auras. In my opinion, that was the best deck I could build out off those cards that I got.

I managed to go 1-1-1 (0-2, 2-0, 1-1-1) and get fourth place in the event. Since there were only 6 participants, this would mean that I'd play a Bo3 against the third-placed player. However, a Bo1 match needed to be played to decide who I was going to play and since it was getting late, there were only 1 booster at stake and I'm going have a busy day today, I decided to go home after the swiss rounds and get some sleep. However I had lots of fun, which is the most important for me, despite me making a blunder that could've won me one game in the final swiss round (the tie was due to time limit).
EZ4ENCE
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 13 2013 07:35 GMT
#9968
I find the lack of Aetherling very disturbing in that UW list.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
December 13 2013 09:06 GMT
#9969
On December 13 2013 16:35 Shotcoder wrote:
I find the lack of Aetherling very disturbing in that UW list.


It's basically Huey's deck from the latest GP. The theory is that it's better to run additional control elements over win conditions. His list only had 1 Elspeth as well.

For what it's worth, I would definitely play the 4th Divination over the 4th Jace. The deck has nothing else to do on turn 3 since there's almost nothing in the format you would want to Dissolve. It's really important to curve out correctly with this deck and plan your turns accurately because it's so fragile.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
FireSA
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia555 Posts
December 13 2013 13:22 GMT
#9970
I have cut a Jace but left it at 3 divinations, and threw in a last breath in the main after some testing. So far have liked the deck, and t3 divination does feel good. Fingers crossed I go well tomorrow, but I guess I'll let people know if I do. 11 hours till the start ^_^
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 20:09:15
December 18 2013 19:57 GMT
#9971
U/W/r list I've been running the past week or so, to good success. 4-0, 3-1, 3-0-1 on Monday, Friday, Monday.

4x hallowed fountain
4x sacred Foundry
4x Steam Vents
4x Temple of Triumph
2x Azorius Guildgate
1x Izzet Guildgate
5x Island
2x Plains

3x Jace, AOT
2x Elspeth

3x DSphere
1x Assemble

2x Lightning strike
2x Izzet charm
3x Azorius charm
2x Helix
3x Turn//burn
4x Verdict
3x Rev
4x Dissolve
1x Syncopate

1x Aetherling

SB:
3x Last Breath
3x Fiendslayer
2x Archangel
3x Counterflux
2x Negate
1x Jace, Mill 10
1x Aetherling


Also, mono red deck I made because bored

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4x Cack
4x Satyr
4x Ashley
4x Chainwalker
4x Reckoner
4x Phoenix'
2x Fanatic
2x Chandra
3x Dargon

3x Shock
4x Strike

21x Mountain
2x Mutavault

Did really well vs esper in testing, haven't played vs anything else. Want to splash white in the board, but all my duals are in control!
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
December 18 2013 20:13 GMT
#9972
Just take your dual lands out of ur control deck and put 'em end your mono red deck whenever you need to. It isn't like you'll need the duals for both decks at the same time lol
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
December 18 2013 20:15 GMT
#9973
On December 19 2013 05:13 Whole wrote:
Just take your dual lands out of ur control deck and put 'em end your mono red deck whenever you need to. It isn't like you'll need the duals for both decks at the same time lol


I built it so a friend could play it at FNM as he's sick of GW agro. He doesn't have the duals
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 18 2013 21:42 GMT
#9974
Are lands still expensive?
Get it by your hands...
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
December 18 2013 21:44 GMT
#9975
Yeah, it'd be $60 for the 8 duals needed in R/W. Kinda pricey for a 1-2 week stint on a borrowed deck.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 18 2013 21:45 GMT
#9976
On December 19 2013 06:42 Judicator wrote:
Are lands still expensive?

In the grand scheme of things, the best land in the game is still the basic island and those are essentially free.

But the mana bases (aka lands) of the vast majority of decks are prohibitively expensive yes. There are definitely decks without this issue but that is kinda the definition of being priced into a deck rather than choosing the best deck. Even if in some cases it still is the best deck >_>

PS: The "new thing" in modern has a grand total of 2 lands that aren't islands. They aren't cheap (mutavaults ) but still it could be a lot worse.
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 18 2013 22:00 GMT
#9977
Not talking about Modern, talking about standard.
Get it by your hands...
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 22:08:42
December 18 2013 22:06 GMT
#9978
Mono-black and mono-blue devotion have predictably cheap manabases (although they run some amount of mutavaults and nykthos but I think nykthos isn't that expensive )

Wizards will literally not stand for a format where the best decks don't use rare lands. Too much $ at stake. Basically, nobody opens packs of sets where the lands aren't valuable, because the rare lands are a lot of the EV in opening a box. So nobody buys those booster boxes and wizards is sad.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
December 18 2013 22:43 GMT
#9979
On December 19 2013 07:00 Judicator wrote:
Not talking about Modern, talking about standard.


Hasn't changed too much, the only difference being that instead of $6-16 checklands, now you buy $3-5 scrylands to go with your $8-12 shocks.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
December 20 2013 04:35 GMT
#9980
Standard manabases are about as cheap as they've been in forever. No vastly overpriced terrible duals, shocks are down to like $8-12, only bad decks need 4x Nykthos and any 4x Mutavault deck plays like 10+ basics.

Boros burn/"control" is probably my deck of choice for anything smaller than a PTQ for a while... aka time to play Kaijudo instead...

Updated my cube for the first time since M14, feels good.
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