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Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
December 23 2013 06:46 GMT
#9981
So, getting back into magic. I have a ginormous order on TCGplayer of probably every cheap card I will ever need. ( Ancient Grudge, duress, mulldrifter, Elvish Visionary, loam lion, delver, mortify, lots of Charms, etc etc) Just simple stuff that works in lots of decks.

Is there some interesting, multipurpose cards (cheap!) that I may have missed? I think I hit the obvious useful commons. What I'm looking for is stuff like Fleetfoot Panther / Winged coatl - solid, useful cards that aren't seen too often, that I may not know of.

In a similar vein, I'm also looking for cheaper versions of expensive cards - ex: Duress vs Thoughtseize.

Magic is expensive
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
December 23 2013 07:10 GMT
#9982
Storm Crow.

Its the cheapest card in the Power 10.
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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
December 23 2013 22:10 GMT
#9983
Thieving Fucking Magpie. For... Uh... No reason whatsoever
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
December 24 2013 00:02 GMT
#9984
you guys are very helpful T_T
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
December 24 2013 00:56 GMT
#9985
what format you looking to play?
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 24 2013 02:08 GMT
#9986
On December 24 2013 09:56 Whole wrote:
what format you looking to play?


Basically this.
Get it by your hands...
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
December 24 2013 02:10 GMT
#9987
oh. budget Modern, mostly. But my friend has a Modern Devotion to Gary deck that's really nasty (and is building an affinity deck), so I'm trying to be at least semi-competitive.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 24 2013 05:50 GMT
#9988
On December 24 2013 11:10 Fishgle wrote:
oh. budget Modern, mostly. But my friend has a Modern Devotion to Gary deck that's really nasty (and is building an affinity deck), so I'm trying to be at least semi-competitive.


Just build Living End without the fetches, it's under $80, cheaper if you have the standard shocklands.
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
December 24 2013 05:58 GMT
#9989
i'd rather have multiple useful cards than a single deck made out of a bunch of jank cards which can only ever be used in that particular deck. Plus, i have an irrational hatred for cascade.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 24 2013 07:01 GMT
#9990
On December 24 2013 14:58 Fishgle wrote:
i'd rather have multiple useful cards than a single deck made out of a bunch of jank cards which can only ever be used in that particular deck. Plus, i have an irrational hatred for cascade.


Uh, there's really nothing too cheap. I don't know what's the point of building a semi competitive deck but having scattered cards that won't really build a deck to accomplish the former.
Get it by your hands...
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
December 24 2013 19:12 GMT
#9991
On December 24 2013 16:01 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 14:58 Fishgle wrote:
i'd rather have multiple useful cards than a single deck made out of a bunch of jank cards which can only ever be used in that particular deck. Plus, i have an irrational hatred for cascade.


Uh, there's really nothing too cheap. I don't know what's the point of building a semi competitive deck but having scattered cards that won't really build a deck to accomplish the former.


It's about end goals.

Do you want to FNM competitively each week with only 1-2 deck choices or play a bunch of theme filled low tier decks?
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
December 24 2013 23:01 GMT
#9992
On December 25 2013 04:12 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 16:01 Judicator wrote:
On December 24 2013 14:58 Fishgle wrote:
i'd rather have multiple useful cards than a single deck made out of a bunch of jank cards which can only ever be used in that particular deck. Plus, i have an irrational hatred for cascade.


Uh, there's really nothing too cheap. I don't know what's the point of building a semi competitive deck but having scattered cards that won't really build a deck to accomplish the former.


It's about end goals.

Do you want to FNM competitively each week with only 1-2 deck choices or play a bunch of theme filled low tier decks?

this guy gets it. I don't really care for netdecking (I found zero satisfaction in winning with someone else's deck). I play with friends in between Burgers&Brew and SmashBros. We like to tinker with decks a lot. If we all had just one deck, and if we played the same match-ups all the time, magic would get boring for us fast.

Plus, whenever I go to FNM I only draft/EDH.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 24 2013 23:34 GMT
#9993
On December 25 2013 08:01 Fishgle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2013 04:12 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On December 24 2013 16:01 Judicator wrote:
On December 24 2013 14:58 Fishgle wrote:
i'd rather have multiple useful cards than a single deck made out of a bunch of jank cards which can only ever be used in that particular deck. Plus, i have an irrational hatred for cascade.


Uh, there's really nothing too cheap. I don't know what's the point of building a semi competitive deck but having scattered cards that won't really build a deck to accomplish the former.


It's about end goals.

Do you want to FNM competitively each week with only 1-2 deck choices or play a bunch of theme filled low tier decks?

this guy gets it. I don't really care for netdecking (I found zero satisfaction in winning with someone else's deck). I play with friends in between Burgers&Brew and SmashBros. We like to tinker with decks a lot. If we all had just one deck, and if we played the same match-ups all the time, magic would get boring for us fast.

Plus, whenever I go to FNM I only draft/EDH.


Umm, Affinity and a Devotion deck (which if nothing else is probably under-explored in Modern). So not sure where you are getting casual from in your original post.
Get it by your hands...
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
December 25 2013 12:27 GMT
#9994
Kiora from DotP is in Born of the Gods, thoughts?

Kiora, the Crashing Wave 2GU

2 starting loyalty

+1: Until your next turn, prevent all damage that would be dealt to and dealt by target permanent an opponent controls.
-1: Draw a card. You may play an additional land this turn.
-5: You get an emblem with "At the beginning of your end step, put a 9/9 blue Kraken creature token onto the battlefield."
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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
December 25 2013 17:50 GMT
#9995
It seems really bad to me, at least as long as haste is a thing. UG doesn't traditionally have a lot of instants or ways to control the board, and this planeswalker doesn't have the kind of immediate impact necessary to make up for that.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-25 17:57:19
December 25 2013 17:56 GMT
#9996
In Modern it'll die almost immediately to Lightning Bolt, Lightning Helix or some other spell and her -1 is underwhelming since any deck that wants this effect can just play Explore (and the only deck I can think of is RG Tron which can't even play this). And if you -1 you get blown out by Electrolyze so... still not good. And can't think of any application in Legacy right now. (Maybe it's a super janky sideboard card against TNN decks?)

Seems like something more focused for EDH probably. I don't follow Standard so I comment on that, but if Ral Zerek isn't seeing play (is he?) then this probably won't either.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 25 2013 19:14 GMT
#9997
She's a double explore in the sideboard against control, that's really, really good for UG. She's so terrible against aggro she's not going to see maindeck play.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 27 2013 00:36 GMT
#9998
if you get her to stick, she's an answer to Blood Baron, althought a weak one.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Leonite7
Profile Joined July 2011
Ireland921 Posts
December 27 2013 01:07 GMT
#9999
She is actually quite useful in a Maze's End control deck or turbofog deck. Getting the extra lands out really accelerates your win.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 27 2013 09:55 GMT
#10000
On December 23 2013 15:46 Fishgle wrote:
So, getting back into magic. I have a ginormous order on TCGplayer of probably every cheap card I will ever need. ( Ancient Grudge, duress, mulldrifter, Elvish Visionary, loam lion, delver, mortify, lots of Charms, etc etc) Just simple stuff that works in lots of decks.

Is there some interesting, multipurpose cards (cheap!) that I may have missed? I think I hit the obvious useful commons. What I'm looking for is stuff like Fleetfoot Panther / Winged coatl - solid, useful cards that aren't seen too often, that I may not know of.

In a similar vein, I'm also looking for cheaper versions of expensive cards - ex: Duress vs Thoughtseize.

Magic is expensive


Terminate, Blightning, Putrefy, sundering growth, explore, farseek, goblin bushwhacker, goblin electromancer, goblin runeblaster. Blade Splicer, Wall of Omens, Solemn Simulacrum, acidic slime, oblivion ring, phyrexian metamorph, celestial purge, flashfreeze, timely reinforcements, arc trail, mana tithe, sunlance, tidehollow sculler, vampire nighthawk, gatekeeper of malakir, Kuldotha forgemaster, stormblood berserker, molten rain, leave no trace, wear//tear, tragic slip, smallpox, everflowing chalice, sphere of the suns, signets, condemn.

I'm sure there's a lot more cheap cards, I just thought of ones that I remember playing myself in any format or seeing in deck lists.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
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