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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
June 20 2012 06:41 GMT
#3641
I'm going to love him in limited digging for removal.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
June 20 2012 07:17 GMT
#3642
On June 20 2012 15:34 huameng wrote:
I wasn't trying to be dismissive btw, I just wanted to generate some discussion ;p

I'm not sure if it'll see play in standard. It does dig for answers, but I'd rather just play more answers I think (or snapcaster mage), since a lot of the time with this guy you are getting nothing. In a deck with 20 instants/sorceries, you are almost 30% to not be able to take anything, and I don't think a deck playing this guy could fit that many spells.


Yah, I think you maybe right. I still like the card - depends on the environment. A tad bit slower and this card will be pretty good. If I can pull out a Day of Judgement (or whatever replaces it,) that'll be cool. Control!
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
June 20 2012 14:05 GMT
#3643
Card won't be relevant as you think with Exalted as the mechanic. It'll end up only chumping rather than trading (which is what you want this 1/3 to do in this upcoming standard), and whiffing on this card might as well be a GG. It's not Sea Gate Oracle. This card fits the best in UR. Outside of that, no.
Get it by your hands...
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
June 20 2012 15:25 GMT
#3644
Seems like they're giving a lot of cards to help a grixis control build, though I still don't see anything competing with delver until it cycles...
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 17:20:08
June 20 2012 17:16 GMT
#3645
As a starter, how much money do i have to sink into this to play? I'm very much assuming it doesn't end at 10$ account activation.

How can magic-league.com claim it's free, shouldn't wizards roll right over them with lawsuits?
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
June 20 2012 17:22 GMT
#3646
0 bucks if you want to play on Cockatrice, but that's no fun. Well alright, it is, but playing in person is personally more fun for me. 15 bucks a week (some of it compensated by good pulls or victories) if you draft. You can build decently competitive standard decks on a budget of 100 dollars or so. Modern costs more, Legacy costs a shit load.
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 17:44:03
June 20 2012 17:29 GMT
#3647
I really wish they had banned delver/ponder. I'm getting bored of playing it. I had a sweet brew in mind if the deck had been banned but I guess I'll keep winning with it for now.
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
June 20 2012 18:42 GMT
#3648
On June 21 2012 02:16 snow2.0 wrote:
As a starter, how much money do i have to sink into this to play? I'm very much assuming it doesn't end at 10$ account activation.

How can magic-league.com claim it's free, shouldn't wizards roll right over them with lawsuits?


I am not an expert on this, but I believe Wizards can't get you in any trouble for using card text. Images are what get you, and the free magic programs don't come with them I think? I play Magic Online so I could be wrong about this, but when I played on MWS I remember having to get card images from a separate location.

Do you play paper magic? Magic Online is a little cheaper to play constructed and a little more expensive to play limited. If you don't play paper magic and what I just said is meaningless to you, you can probably get started with a competitive, fun deck for $50-$100, which would last you for quite a while
skating
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
June 20 2012 22:37 GMT
#3649
Magic-League is known but Wizards risk alienating that community. It's the same thing with Salvation where it's a tentative don't-step-over-the-understood-line and everything will be gravy. Those online communities are viewed more as dedicated fans of the game unless they do something stupid like a certain master list spoiler of NPH. The communities themselves have strict rules regarding their behavior and their mods will regulate accordingly. Pretty much both parties understand where the line is and work not to aggravate the other.

Also, I don't think any of these organizations actually make a profit from their work.
Get it by your hands...
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
June 20 2012 23:51 GMT
#3650
On June 21 2012 07:37 Judicator wrote:
Magic-League is known but Wizards risk alienating that community. It's the same thing with Salvation where it's a tentative don't-step-over-the-understood-line and everything will be gravy. Those online communities are viewed more as dedicated fans of the game unless they do something stupid like a certain master list spoiler of NPH. The communities themselves have strict rules regarding their behavior and their mods will regulate accordingly. Pretty much both parties understand where the line is and work not to aggravate the other.

Also, I don't think any of these organizations actually make a profit from their work.

The NPH master list was due to a few pros (which raises the question of the rich getting richer, in terms of information availability) leaking it then the list wound up on mtgs
bobbob
Profile Joined December 2009
United States368 Posts
June 21 2012 00:45 GMT
#3651
Magic League already received a C+D letter at some point in the past, basically they are not allowed to promote any of the free software, but people not associated with ML can explain to newer people how it works.
CapnCDaWg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States179 Posts
June 21 2012 03:46 GMT
#3652
I haven't played Magic in a realllly long time but I think it would be sweet to get back into it if I could find some spare time from work/school.

Anyways just wanted to share a new video uploaded by GoRemy that I'm pretty sure a majority of you would enjoy

MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
June 21 2012 08:37 GMT
#3653
So I've developed a bit of an addiction to drafting. I could see myself getting into constructed later, but for now, I just want to get as much drafting bang for my buck as possible.

What's the best way to get rid of all my pulls for event tickets or booster packs?
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
June 21 2012 08:55 GMT
#3654
Yeah, you and everyone else.

Sell your cards in the classifieds. There's not much more to it than that -- selling to humans is usually a little more profitable than selling to bots, since you meet in the middle of the bot's buy/sell basically, but it can be slow. Also, if you are buying packs from the store, don't do that, since they cost <4 tickets from bots.

Also, does anyone here know how to draft Invasion block? I did a draft and won it (subtle brag) with Cavern Harpy control, but I didn't play Magic back then and I had to read all the cards. Anything notably different compared to more recent drafts?
skating
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
June 21 2012 22:24 GMT
#3655
AVR has actually un-addicted me to drafts. I think I lost to miracle bonfire/entreat one too many times(once).
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
June 21 2012 22:42 GMT
#3656
On June 21 2012 17:55 huameng wrote:
Yeah, you and everyone else.

Sell your cards in the classifieds. There's not much more to it than that -- selling to humans is usually a little more profitable than selling to bots, since you meet in the middle of the bot's buy/sell basically, but it can be slow. Also, if you are buying packs from the store, don't do that, since they cost <4 tickets from bots.

Also, does anyone here know how to draft Invasion block? I did a draft and won it (subtle brag) with Cavern Harpy control, but I didn't play Magic back then and I had to read all the cards. Anything notably different compared to more recent drafts?

IPA is all about bears and being in the right 'shard' of colours (grixis, bant, esper, naya, jund). also viable is 5c green.
grixis is the best shard to be in because of the SUPER powerhouse uncommons.
esper is probably second, you are given two tappers at common and a bunch of very relevant removal. inability to kick agnonising demise kinda sucks but what can you do.
all the green based shards are probably better off as 5c green with very greedy splashes. trust me you can pick up a lot of fixing for cheap and roll with it that way.

dragons are insta p1p1, ditto fof, etc, $$$
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 00:48:48
June 22 2012 00:46 GMT
#3657
On June 22 2012 07:24 DEN1ED wrote:
AVR has actually un-addicted me to drafts. I think I lost to miracle bonfire/entreat one too many times(once).


Welcome to the 2 month pre-release of M13. I am honestly looking forward to a core set limited format thanks to how inconsistent AVR drafts are. You open packs and it regularly goes something like P1P1-Bomb followed by P1P2-unexciting 2 drop that you are excited for cause the set is so awkward.

Looking at people's draft videos, personal experience, and running iterations on online draft simulators (something I never had to do before), the inconsistency in playables is so maddening.

Edit:

I started running sims simply because I was like stupidly lost in AVR drafts after 2 weeks of its release. Like I am not some super drafter, but it felt like I just pulled random cards out of the packs and hoped to get there.
Get it by your hands...
Slakkoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1119 Posts
June 22 2012 00:58 GMT
#3658
This game isnt really "noobfriendly", right? I've played some Duel of the planeswalker on the PS3 and I love the game even though I don't understand much, perhaps if some other noob wanna play, I'm in =)
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 01:44:32
June 22 2012 01:28 GMT
#3659
On June 22 2012 09:58 Slakkoo wrote:
This game isnt really "noobfriendly", right? I've played some Duel of the planeswalker on the PS3 and I love the game even though I don't understand much, perhaps if some other noob wanna play, I'm in =)


No and yes, sort of depends on who you play with and what you're trying to learn. If you're starting out, people will generally be merciful and help you out. Beyond that, my friends' teaching methods were "Keep making stupid mistakes until you lose enough games to look out for those mistakes". But it totally depends. And god was that not helpful at all, was it?
wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
June 22 2012 04:26 GMT
#3660
On June 22 2012 09:46 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 07:24 DEN1ED wrote:
AVR has actually un-addicted me to drafts. I think I lost to miracle bonfire/entreat one too many times(once).


Welcome to the 2 month pre-release of M13. I am honestly looking forward to a core set limited format thanks to how inconsistent AVR drafts are. You open packs and it regularly goes something like P1P1-Bomb followed by P1P2-unexciting 2 drop that you are excited for cause the set is so awkward.

Looking at people's draft videos, personal experience, and running iterations on online draft simulators (something I never had to do before), the inconsistency in playables is so maddening.

Edit:

I started running sims simply because I was like stupidly lost in AVR drafts after 2 weeks of its release. Like I am not some super drafter, but it felt like I just pulled random cards out of the packs and hoped to get there.


I did some DII and III drafts, but most did triple Avacyn. Typically, do more cards wheel around the table, i.e. you draft in the knowledge that something that you want can/should come back to you?
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