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bobbob
Profile Joined December 2009
United States368 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 08:04:32
April 08 2012 08:04 GMT
#3001
My friend drafted a really sick UW cube deck.
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LayZRR
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany449 Posts
April 08 2012 08:10 GMT
#3002
so i saw this planeswalker game on steam its always on sale. i would love to play magic. is it worth it or should i go for this one here? whats the difference? i really dont know any shit about magic i am sorry
Hikko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1126 Posts
April 08 2012 08:27 GMT
#3003
On April 08 2012 17:10 LayZRR wrote:
so i saw this planeswalker game on steam its always on sale. i would love to play magic. is it worth it or should i go for this one here? whats the difference? i really dont know any shit about magic i am sorry


try out the planeswalker game, it's a lot of fun and a good way to get a taste of magic again if you haven't played/haven't played in a while. the actual magic online client is more comprehensive and has almost all the cards that have been printed with competitive aspects, but it isn't very user friendly and is in fact very newbie-unfriendly.

try out duels of the planeswalkers from steam and see how you feel about it. if it leaves you wanting for more, try going to a friday night magic or playing with your friends in paper before delving into magic online.
♥
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
April 08 2012 08:57 GMT
#3004
Now if they made Kamigawa the next set after Ravnica, except better this time, we would be set.
LayZRR
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany449 Posts
April 08 2012 11:22 GMT
#3005

try out duels of the planeswalkers from steam and see how you feel about it. if it leaves you wanting for more, try going to a friday night magic or playing with your friends in paper before delving into magic online.


do i have to buy booster packs or something for planeswalker? or when i buy it for 10$ i have all cards?
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 08 2012 14:33 GMT
#3006
On April 08 2012 20:22 LayZRR wrote:
Show nested quote +

try out duels of the planeswalkers from steam and see how you feel about it. if it leaves you wanting for more, try going to a friday night magic or playing with your friends in paper before delving into magic online.


do i have to buy booster packs or something for planeswalker? or when i buy it for 10$ i have all cards?


In that game you get only preconstructed decks you can choose from. You unlock extra cards that you can add/swap in as you win with the deck. There's DLC that adds more decks in that's not free, but you get all the starting decks free.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 08 2012 16:08 GMT
#3007
On April 08 2012 14:35 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 14:04 Judicator wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:59 last.resistance wrote:
Snapcaster Mage?


I want to play in your world of standard where I can spend 4 mana to blink a Snapcaster Mage to spend a 2 mana (or 1 mana) spell consistently from my graveyard. Through Vapor Snags, Mana Leaks, etc. Unless they print something to hose the Delver builds and Lingering Souls, that card will not see too much play unless there is some super creature you really want to hit.

I am not sure about older and bigger formats though, but 4 mana is like near the limit of what you can play for most decks. As in you better have some good effects.


If the format slows down, I was never unhappy blinking a Solemn with Venser. Who can know? We might get a nice Wall of Omens type or, like you said, if they reprint Angel of Despair and you're in the late game?

That's a bit ambitious....Still, it's fun to play around with it.


Until you realize you never get your combo. Venser decks were good because of the Luminarch Ascension versus JaceTMS. Angel of Despair doesn't work with this Restoration Angel.
Get it by your hands...
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 08 2012 17:20 GMT
#3008
On April 09 2012 01:08 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 14:35 slyboogie wrote:
On April 08 2012 14:04 Judicator wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:59 last.resistance wrote:
Snapcaster Mage?


I want to play in your world of standard where I can spend 4 mana to blink a Snapcaster Mage to spend a 2 mana (or 1 mana) spell consistently from my graveyard. Through Vapor Snags, Mana Leaks, etc. Unless they print something to hose the Delver builds and Lingering Souls, that card will not see too much play unless there is some super creature you really want to hit.

I am not sure about older and bigger formats though, but 4 mana is like near the limit of what you can play for most decks. As in you better have some good effects.


If the format slows down, I was never unhappy blinking a Solemn with Venser. Who can know? We might get a nice Wall of Omens type or, like you said, if they reprint Angel of Despair and you're in the late game?

That's a bit ambitious....Still, it's fun to play around with it.


Until you realize you never get your combo. Venser decks were good because of the Luminarch Ascension versus JaceTMS. Angel of Despair doesn't work with this Restoration Angel.



=/ Venser was good because of Bant Pod mostly, not the UW shell. Wall of Omens, Sea Gate Oracle, Solemn, Acidic Slime, Stonehorn Dignitary, Razer Hippogriff, Titans, Metamorphs were all the real reasons I ran Venser. I can't tell you how many times I would win without birthing pod because of the Venser/Sea Gate or Venser/Wall combo to fish up lands and elesh norn/Wurmcoil/Titan
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
April 08 2012 18:34 GMT
#3009
On April 09 2012 01:08 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 14:35 slyboogie wrote:
On April 08 2012 14:04 Judicator wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:59 last.resistance wrote:
Snapcaster Mage?


I want to play in your world of standard where I can spend 4 mana to blink a Snapcaster Mage to spend a 2 mana (or 1 mana) spell consistently from my graveyard. Through Vapor Snags, Mana Leaks, etc. Unless they print something to hose the Delver builds and Lingering Souls, that card will not see too much play unless there is some super creature you really want to hit.

I am not sure about older and bigger formats though, but 4 mana is like near the limit of what you can play for most decks. As in you better have some good effects.


If the format slows down, I was never unhappy blinking a Solemn with Venser. Who can know? We might get a nice Wall of Omens type or, like you said, if they reprint Angel of Despair and you're in the late game?

That's a bit ambitious....Still, it's fun to play around with it.


Until you realize you never get your combo. Venser decks were good because of the Luminarch Ascension versus JaceTMS. Angel of Despair doesn't work with this Restoration Angel.


Right, right, non-Angel.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
April 09 2012 01:32 GMT
#3010
On April 08 2012 20:22 LayZRR wrote:
Show nested quote +

try out duels of the planeswalkers from steam and see how you feel about it. if it leaves you wanting for more, try going to a friday night magic or playing with your friends in paper before delving into magic online.


do i have to buy booster packs or something for planeswalker? or when i buy it for 10$ i have all cards?


If you buy the Gold edition which is on sale for $7 on steam atm, you get all the decks. There isn't many options when it omes to customizing decks really. They're all preconstructed and as you unlock new cards you can switch up to 20 of them out, but in the end it's the same deck. There's 20 or so decks to choose from I think, so it's not too bad, and it's much cheaper than buying the real cards, by far.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 04:20:15
April 09 2012 04:18 GMT
#3011
Blargle. Time Walk Miracle. WTF.
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Flicker is a theme in Avacyn Restored:
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White Miracle:
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Soulbond pump:
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Grislebrand:
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Black's theme seems to be undercosted creatures that require sacrifices:
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Blue Soulbond creature:
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Undying Wolf:
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 04:30:36
April 09 2012 04:29 GMT
#3012
Idk if those are real or not, possible, but Miracle seems like an awful mechanic to play against. The red one seems balanced i guess, but if people aren't manipulating their libraries, just hoping to draw them, say in limited then its just gonna be upsetting when they get their "out".

If someone is casting noxious revival or ponder to set up next turn and its not completely random, then thats fine by me.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
April 09 2012 04:32 GMT
#3013
These are straight from Wizards.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 09 2012 04:36 GMT
#3014
Timewalk miracle is sorcery, so you can keep your panties unbunched. Assuming it still has to obey casting timings which by all things printed should mean it is.
Get it by your hands...
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
April 09 2012 04:38 GMT
#3015
Holy shit this set is going to be amazing. It feels pretty damn broken, but I mostly play with friends now so it's going to be a blast
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
April 09 2012 04:40 GMT
#3016
On April 09 2012 13:36 Judicator wrote:
Assuming it still has to obey casting timings which by all things printed should mean it is.


What do you mean by this? It at the very least needs to be able to be cast during the draw step (despite being a sorcery) or the Miracle ability does nothing at all.
Zero fighting.
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
April 09 2012 04:44 GMT
#3017
I am not a fan of the new mechanics, I would rather abuse the graveyard/undying then lucky draws and easy two for ones. Any decent instant speed removal will just trash soulbound creatures.
I can already see the ending
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
April 09 2012 04:45 GMT
#3018
This article has some explanations for the mechanics:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/190a

I'm not sure if you can cast a Sorcery Miracle if you draw it during your opponents turn.

"You're allowed to cast the first card you draw each turn if it has miracle, so if you find ways to draw cards during your opponent's turn, you get another chance for a game-breaking, miraculous moment."
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 05:00:49
April 09 2012 04:56 GMT
#3019
a 4/3 flier for 2B at uncommon? Unless the format is at least as aggressive as the current drafts, I can't see that being beat.
zzz i need to read cards. Still, how likely is a ponder + noxious revival + other ways to set up the new timewalk deck going to work?
I can already see the ending
echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
April 09 2012 04:59 GMT
#3020
Temporal Mastery is going to be banned in Legacy, there's no way they are going to let that slide. Especially in UW Stoneblade, 4 Brainstorms, alongside 4 Snaps, and of course JTMS.

And of course there's Personal Tutor.

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