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huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
April 07 2012 17:00 GMT
#2961
I've done 3 cube drafts on MTGO so far, and twice I've been almost 10 turns in and been left with no lands. What have I been missing all my life?
skating
wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
April 07 2012 18:18 GMT
#2962
I only play paper magic, so MODO timing is irrelevant to me. Thanks for all the help and tips.
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 00:13:53
April 07 2012 23:10 GMT
#2963
So the fall set is Return to Ravnica.

I like that there going back to Ravnica, but I wonder if they're running out of ideas. Two of the last three sets are repeats for settings. Are we going back to Dominaria, Lorwyn and Alara after this?

The mechanics for Avacyn Restored are Undying, Soulbond and Miracle (aka topdeck). Soulbound lets you pair up creatures to give them a benefit. Miracle lets you cast a spell for an alternate cost if it's the first card you have drawn this turn. There are no black miracles. There will be at least three other legendary angels outside of Avacyn, one for each flight. Based on the one below, I assume that they are GW, WU and WR.

Spoiler for Cards from Avacyn Restored
+ Show Spoiler +
Silverblade Paladin
1WW
Creature - Human Knight
Soulbond - You may pair this creature with another unpaired creature when either enters the battlefield. they remain pIaired for as long as you control both of them.)
As long as Silverblade Paladin is paired with another creature, both creatures have double strike.
2/2
--------
Demonlord of Ashmouth 2BB
Creature - Demon
Flying, Undying
When Demonlord of Ashmouth enters the battlefield, exile it unless you sacrifice a creature.
5/4

-------------
Restoration Angel - 3W
Creature - Angel
Flash, Flying
When Restoration Angel enters the battlefield, you may exile target non-angel creature you control then return that creature to the battlefield under your control.
3/4

-------------
Thunderous Wrath 4RR
Instant
Thunderous Wrath Deals 5 damage to target creature or player.
Miracle R (You may cast this card for its Miracle cost when you draw it if it's the first card you drew this turn.)

-------------
Sigarda, Host of Herons 2GWW
Legendary Creatue - Angel
Flying, Hexproof
Spells and abilities your opponents control can't cause you to sacrifice permanents.
5/5
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 07 2012 23:47 GMT
#2964
Thunderous Wrath...what the fuck.

Burn decks are now good in Modern, that's seriously the craziest thing I've ever seen.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
April 07 2012 23:52 GMT
#2965
On April 08 2012 08:10 last.resistance wrote:
So the fall set is Return to Ravnica.

I like that there going back to Ravnica, but I wonder if they're running out of ideas. Two of the last three sets are repeats for settings. Are we going back to Dominaria, Lorwyn and Alara after this?

The mechanics for Avacyn Restored are Undying, Soulbound and Miracle (aka topdeck). Soulbound lets you pair up creatures to give them a benefit. Miracle lets you cast a spell for an alternate cost if it's the first card you have drawn this turn. There are no black miracles. There will be at least three other legendary angels outside of Avacyn, one for each flight. Based on the one below, I assume that they are GW, WU and WR.

Spoiler for Cards from Avacyn Restored
+ Show Spoiler +
Silverblade Paladin, 2/2
1WW
Creature - Human Knight
Soulbond - You may pair this creature with another unpaired creature when either enters the battlefield. they remain pIaired for as long as you control both of them.)

As long as Silverblade Paladin is paired with another creature, both creatures have double strike.

--------
Demonlord of Ashmouth 2BB
Flying, Undying
When ~ enters the battlefield, exile it unless you sacrifice a creature.
5/4

-------------
Restoration Angel - 3W
Flash, Flying, 3/4,
When Restoration Angel enters the battlefield, you may exile target non-angel creature you control then return that creature to the battlefield under your control.


-------------
Thunderous Wrath 4RR
Instant
Thunderous Wrath Deals 5 damage to target creature or player.
Miracle R (You may cast this card for its Miracle cost when you draw it if it's the first card you drew this turn.)

-------------
Sigarda, Host of Herons 2GWW
Legendary Creatue - Angel
Flying, Hexproof
Spells and abilities your opponents control can't cause you to sacrifice permanents.
5/5


First and foremost, I am gratified by the provided incoming card and its descriptions. But on the part of the Ravnica making a return, any chance of posting up the source for that speculation?
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
April 07 2012 23:58 GMT
#2966
On April 08 2012 08:10 last.resistance wrote:
So the fall set is Return to Ravnica.

I like that there going back to Ravnica, but I wonder if they're running out of ideas. Two of the last three sets are repeats for settings. Are we going back to Dominaria, Lorwyn and Alara after this?

The mechanics for Avacyn Restored are Undying, Soulbound and Miracle (aka topdeck). Soulbound lets you pair up creatures to give them a benefit. Miracle lets you cast a spell for an alternate cost if it's the first card you have drawn this turn. There are no black miracles. There will be at least three other legendary angels outside of Avacyn, one for each flight. Based on the one below, I assume that they are GW, WU and WR.

Spoiler for Cards from Avacyn Restored
+ Show Spoiler +
Silverblade Paladin, 2/2
1WW
Creature - Human Knight
Soulbond - You may pair this creature with another unpaired creature when either enters the battlefield. they remain pIaired for as long as you control both of them.)

As long as Silverblade Paladin is paired with another creature, both creatures have double strike.

--------
Demonlord of Ashmouth 2BB
Flying, Undying
When ~ enters the battlefield, exile it unless you sacrifice a creature.
5/4

-------------
Restoration Angel - 3W
Flash, Flying, 3/4,
When Restoration Angel enters the battlefield, you may exile target non-angel creature you control then return that creature to the battlefield under your control.


-------------
Thunderous Wrath 4RR
Instant
Thunderous Wrath Deals 5 damage to target creature or player.
Miracle R (You may cast this card for its Miracle cost when you draw it if it's the first card you drew this turn.)

-------------
Sigarda, Host of Herons 2GWW
Legendary Creatue - Angel
Flying, Hexproof
Spells and abilities your opponents control can't cause you to sacrifice permanents.
5/5


Started playing magic seriously just when Ravnica came out. Might come back now just because of this. Limited Ravnica was sooooooooo fun.
Forever Young
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
April 08 2012 00:00 GMT
#2967
It was confirmed at the end of the PAX panel, and it is also on the Magic facebook page. They have a picture of Jace and what appears to be Niv-Mizzet together.

[image loading]
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 00:04:49
April 08 2012 00:02 GMT
#2968
Makes sense story wise?

Gideon left for Ravnica at the end of Rise of Eldrazi, Jace most likely did something similar, Chandra probably wandering around somewhere. Nicol Bolas controls the major organization in Ravnica. Garruk's going to where Liliana is going provided they don't end that plot line at Avacyn Restored, probably somewhere on Ravnica to find her next target demon. Pretty much they're just building up to Nicol Bolas' grand plan to get his old powers back.

Anyways, the cards makes me want to play Junk in standard.

Also, Ravnica also excuses them for reprinting some of the old lands to fix the atrocious mana in the upcoming Standard (I can't see them reprinting the core set duals again).
Get it by your hands...
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 00:16:53
April 08 2012 00:10 GMT
#2969
Silverblade Paladin seems to lead to some explosive openings in the human deck:
Turn One: Champion of the Parish
Turn Two: Gather the Townsfolk, swing for three
Turn Three: Silverblade Paladin, Soulbind the Champion, swing for 10
Turn Four: Fiend Hunter their guy, swing for 16?

I think the Restoration Angel could see a lot of play. Snapcasters 5-8 for double the cost? It leaves a much better body around then Snapcaster does as well. I was wondering to myself the other day if the presence of Snapcaster Mage would prevent them from reprinting Astral Slide the next time they did a set with cycling as it might be too powerful. All the clone effects and now this might just nullify that theory though.

Images added to the Magic facebook for the cards spoiled earlier today:
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+ Show Spoiler +
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 08 2012 00:18 GMT
#2970
Also, that non-Angel clause in Restoration Angel makes me believe that Angel of Despair is coming back at some point.
Get it by your hands...
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 00:24:00
April 08 2012 00:21 GMT
#2971
It would be a fitting reprint in Ravnica. Heh, some people just want them to add Planeswalkers to the original Ravnica set and release it.

Could/would/should they ever do that? I know that core sets are mostly reprints, but an expert level set with only a handfull of new cards?

Also, spoiler season just makes me giddy. Think of all the possibilities!
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
April 08 2012 01:09 GMT
#2972
On April 08 2012 09:00 last.resistance wrote:
It was confirmed at the end of the PAX panel, and it is also on the Magic facebook page. They have a picture of Jace and what appears to be Niv-Mizzet together.

[image loading]


I hope Niv-Mizzet beat the crap out of Jace.

These planewalkers seems too powerful for my liking.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 01:12:46
April 08 2012 01:09 GMT
#2973
On April 08 2012 09:02 Judicator wrote:
Makes sense story wise?

Gideon left for Ravnica at the end of Rise of Eldrazi, Jace most likely did something similar, Chandra probably wandering around somewhere. Nicol Bolas controls the major organization in Ravnica. Garruk's going to where Liliana is going provided they don't end that plot line at Avacyn Restored, probably somewhere on Ravnica to find her next target demon. Pretty much they're just building up to Nicol Bolas' grand plan to get his old powers back.

Anyways, the cards makes me want to play Junk in standard.

Also, Ravnica also excuses them for reprinting some of the old lands to fix the atrocious mana in the upcoming Standard (I can't see them reprinting the core set duals again).


Which organization does Bolas control? The Black/Red Demon one? Or the Blue/Black Szadek One?

EDIT: Also, does Miracle mean that players can't do that weird shuffle when they draw? I never do, but a lot of guys do. It doesn't really bother me. Or is it that you can't even put the card into your "hand," you just draw, look at it and cast it?
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 01:29:59
April 08 2012 01:29 GMT
#2974
On April 08 2012 10:09 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 09:02 Judicator wrote:
Makes sense story wise?

Gideon left for Ravnica at the end of Rise of Eldrazi, Jace most likely did something similar, Chandra probably wandering around somewhere. Nicol Bolas controls the major organization in Ravnica. Garruk's going to where Liliana is going provided they don't end that plot line at Avacyn Restored, probably somewhere on Ravnica to find her next target demon. Pretty much they're just building up to Nicol Bolas' grand plan to get his old powers back.

Anyways, the cards makes me want to play Junk in standard.

Also, Ravnica also excuses them for reprinting some of the old lands to fix the atrocious mana in the upcoming Standard (I can't see them reprinting the core set duals again).


Which organization does Bolas control? The Black/Red Demon one? Or the Blue/Black Szadek One?

EDIT: Also, does Miracle mean that players can't do that weird shuffle when they draw? I never do, but a lot of guys do. It doesn't really bother me. Or is it that you can't even put the card into your "hand," you just draw, look at it and cast it?

All the guilds collapsed in Dissention, the guilds no longer exist. Nicol Bolas controls the Consoritum, the crime syndicate that took over afterwards.

Also, I just played 3 drafts, one swiss, 2 8-4s. In every match except one, I lost at least 1 game to mana screw.

I hate my life.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 01:41:10
April 08 2012 01:39 GMT
#2975
On April 08 2012 10:09 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 09:02 Judicator wrote:
Makes sense story wise?

Gideon left for Ravnica at the end of Rise of Eldrazi, Jace most likely did something similar, Chandra probably wandering around somewhere. Nicol Bolas controls the major organization in Ravnica. Garruk's going to where Liliana is going provided they don't end that plot line at Avacyn Restored, probably somewhere on Ravnica to find her next target demon. Pretty much they're just building up to Nicol Bolas' grand plan to get his old powers back.

Anyways, the cards makes me want to play Junk in standard.

Also, Ravnica also excuses them for reprinting some of the old lands to fix the atrocious mana in the upcoming Standard (I can't see them reprinting the core set duals again).


Which organization does Bolas control? The Black/Red Demon one? Or the Blue/Black Szadek One?

EDIT: Also, does Miracle mean that players can't do that weird shuffle when they draw? I never do, but a lot of guys do. It doesn't really bother me. Or is it that you can't even put the card into your "hand," you just draw, look at it and cast it?


Consortium.

Miracle means you play it during your draw step (or whenever you draw cards) as soon as you draw it, card will never hit your hand. It's like Delver's triggers if you want to think about it like that. Yes it does mean, if they draw it into their hand and then start shuffling (it's a good habit to get into) their hand before making a play, they will not be able to miracle cast it.
Get it by your hands...
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
April 08 2012 01:47 GMT
#2976
Miracle cards also have a special frame to act as a reminder.

I wonder how far they are going to push them though. Five damage for one mana is quite powerful, and pretty stupid at uncommon for draft purposes. What's a mythic miracle look like?
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 08 2012 02:04 GMT
#2977
Honestly, I feel like black is getting a thoughtseize level spell at miracle cost. The problem with Miracle isn't in Standard or even Limited, the problem is it's interaction with Brainstorm/JaceTMS in Legacy. In limited it's a little whatever, in Modern, it's just OK in the burn decks (you can't run too many cause having any of these in your opening hand is effectively a mulligan), and Preordain and Ponder bans makes it fair.
Get it by your hands...
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
April 08 2012 02:08 GMT
#2978
Can't confirm ATM, but no Black Miracle cards.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 02:15:58
April 08 2012 02:12 GMT
#2979
I can confirm. They announced that at the PAX event.

"Jon:
There are no black miracles"
wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 03:14:30
April 08 2012 02:59 GMT
#2980
*drools*

I love the Avacyn cards.

For a newbie, what are miracles?

NVM, didn't click on the last spoiler.
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