Magic: The Gathering - Page 115

On December 29 2011 10:43 CruelZeratul wrote:
What about Rune Snag instead of Mana Leak?

On December 29 2011 08:54 Shotcoder wrote:
Mana leak, dissipate, white sun, Gideon, day of judgment, elspeth, jace, oblivion ring, timely reinforcements, elesh norn, sun Titan, phantasmal images, frost titan.

I'm not a huge fan of the deck right now so I'll let sly and judicator flesh out the list and give you numbers. In all reality I think it's dependent on wha version you want to run too. Because karn, venser, and tumble magnet are also options.

On December 29 2011 11:06 Judicator wrote:


He's talking about Modern. Any control lists will have to be Teachings which means 4 colors in Modern. You can't just run 2 colors and comfortably match up well against the field.

In either case, I don't have that much experience in Modern. The brief time I tested it was literally land destruction with Bloodbraid Elf cascading into Molten Rain/Stone Rain, I was about to test a RUG version of that and decided I probably will never bother assembling the base cards needed to play in Modern, so I stopped.

On December 29 2011 11:06 Judicator wrote:


He's talking about Modern. Any control lists will have to be Teachings which means 4 colors in Modern. You can't just run 2 colors and comfortably match up well against the field.

In either case, I don't have that much experience in Modern. The brief time I tested it was literally land destruction with Bloodbraid Elf cascading into Molten Rain/Stone Rain, I was about to test a RUG version of that and decided I probably will never bother assembling the base cards needed to play in Modern, so I stopped.

On December 30 2011 03:07 slyboogie wrote:
Why give up Consume the Meek or Doomblade or Smother? Or even Deathmark? Also, Inquisition and Thoughtseize! Just play Esper, it doesn't make your decision tree that much harder. Tron is also interesting, though, I haven't played it.

On December 31 2011 00:00 MCMcEmcee wrote:
I don't really mind giving up removal spells, I would miss Esper Charm and flashback Teachings though =[

On December 31 2011 00:06 bumatlarge wrote:
You can't target your own Garruk with mortapod. What is this shit wizards. I want to start tricking out DT wolves with mortarpods on turn 5!

Honestly though, you can't deal damage to your own planeswalkers with spells or abilities, and I'm not quite sure of the reasons for it.

On December 31 2011 04:09 Risen wrote:


Wait, what? This is true? I've been redirecting damage from myself to planeswalker like normal in these situations ((largely 1 damage to myself onto koth from an arc trail with my red deck))

DEALING DAMAGE TO PLANESWALKERS

If a source you control would deal noncombat damage to an opponent, you may have that source deal that damage to a planeswalker that opponent controls instead. This is a redirection effect: you choose whether to redirect the damage as the redirection effect is applied, and it's subject to the normal rules for ordering replacement effects. The player affected by the damage chooses the order in which to apply such effects, but the controller of the source of the damage chooses whether the damage is redirected. Note that this redirection can't be applied to combat damage.

For example, although you can't target a planeswalker with Shock, you can target your opponent with Shock, and then as Shock resolves, choose to have Shock deal its 2 damage to one of your opponent's planeswalkers. If you do, two loyalty counters are removed from that planeswalker.
You can't choose to split the damage between a player and a planeswalker. In the Shock example above, you couldn't have Shock deal 1 damage to the player and 1 damage to the planeswalker.
If a source you control would deal damage to you, you can't have that source deal that damage to one of your planeswalkers instead.
In a Two-Headed Giant game, damage that would be dealt to a player can't be redirected to a planeswalker his or her teammate controls.