EPTI don't have BG2 installed but I am pretty sure that was how it's done. If it doesn't work you can just create a level 1 bounty hunter and then manually alter your stats/skills that way so you aren't cheating or missing anything
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
I don't have BG2 installed but I am pretty sure that was how it's done. If it doesn't work you can just create a level 1 bounty hunter and then manually alter your stats/skills that way so you aren't cheating or missing anything | ||
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theBOOCH
United States832 Posts
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
On December 27 2010 01:03 floor exercise wrote: I don't know if there's a better way but what I would do is dual to a thief and save, then open up your save and change your kit to bounty hunter and set your thief level to 0 (but keep your xp the same) so when you load the save again it will force you to level up as a bounty hunter so you won't end up with whatever a thief has at that level. I don't have BG2 installed but I am pretty sure that was how it's done. If it doesn't work you can just create a level 1 bounty hunter and then manually alter your stats/skills that way so you aren't cheating or missing anything I tried this and it works, but it looks like being even part kensai stops you from equipping any thief armor? How are kensais supposed to survive? | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
And once you start getting HLAs on your thief you get Use Any Item which means you can wear any armor you want | ||
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Aquafresh
United States824 Posts
On December 27 2010 01:13 myopia wrote: I tried this and it works, but it looks like being even part kensai stops you from equipping any thief armor? How are kensais supposed to survive? Kensai's have a bonus to AC, and your THAC0, HP and attacks per round should be so good that you should make short work of any melee fighter in the game. It's the large groups of lower level but physically strong enemies that will kill you. Just don't fight those head on (unless you're soloing.) Kensai/Thief is stupidly powerful once you regain your abilities. For proficiencies and dual level there are a few things you want to keep in mind, this analysis is assuming you have the fix installed that restores weapon grand mastery to its true level. You will definitely be dual wielding, so your goal will be 5 attacks per round. At level 9 a kensai has 3 uses of kai and 1.5 base attacks per round. Dual wielding he will have 2.5 attacks per round. If he is a grand master in his main hand weapon this becomes 4 attacks per round (+3/2). This forces you to use the scarlett ninja-to (with use any item), belm, or kundane in the off-hand to achieve 5 attacks per round. Scarlett ninja-to and belm use scimitar proficiency, and combined with usuno's blade, (a good +4 scimitar on the top level of watcher's keep) can make a very powerful weapon set until you get spectral brand in throne of bhaal. Not a bad idea to max out scimitar proficiency if you are going this route. At level 13 a kensai has 8 proficiency points, 4 uses of kai, and 2 base attacks per round. This gives him 4.5 attacks per round dual wielding with a main hand weapon he is a grand master with. At this point one of the +1 attacks weapons in the off hand would give him 5.5 attacks per round, which is a waste because 5 is the maximum. You can achieve the extra .5 attacks needed to reach 5 APR by equipping the gauntlets of weapon mastery obtained from the ytossi at the bottom of watchers keep. These give +.5 APR +1 THAC0 and +2 to base damage, which will get multiplied by your backstab modifier. This way you can dual wield some ridiculously overpowered weapon combo like Angurvadal/Answerer, or the Axe of the Unyielding for regeneration, or Crom Faeyer etc without worrying about needing that +1 bonus from the offhand weapon. You also get an additional use of Kai and lower THAC0. Both good things as a Kai backstab is an instant 100+ damage to anything in the game. Once you get HLAs you'll be using improved haste, Kai, Time traps, and Assassination to deal out a good 600 damage to everything within reach. I prefer level 13 for these reasons. The downside is that you will get your thief abilities back a lot later, but this is fine in a party, and pretty manageable while soloing too. Kensai/Thief with use any item is a stronger solo character than Kensai/Mage. | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
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Rflcrx
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Anybody know RPGs that have this slow and free start of BG1? New or old, I don't really care.. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4406 Posts
On December 27 2010 21:39 Rflcrx wrote: Anybody else here has problems with BG2? I loved BG1, but I really dislike BG2 because you start with a high level. I loved the first chapters of BG1 the most, where you were exploring and starting the story slowly. For me this feeling is missing in BG2, you are directly in a huge city with way too many NPCs/too many options. I never got really into BG2 for that reason.. Anybody know RPGs that have this slow and free start of BG1? New or old, I don't really care.. even though bg2 is alot more linear than bg1 it's still a good game , you should give it another try otherwise maybe try icewind dale | ||
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Rflcrx
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Spritescaper
United States63 Posts
On December 27 2010 21:39 Rflcrx wrote: Anybody else here has problems with BG2? I loved BG1, but I really dislike BG2 because you start with a high level. I loved the first chapters of BG1 the most, where you were exploring and starting the story slowly. For me this feeling is missing in BG2, you are directly in a huge city with way too many NPCs/too many options. I never got really into BG2 for that reason.. Anybody know RPGs that have this slow and free start of BG1? New or old, I don't really care.. Funny, because I felt the exact opposite. Loved BG2, couldn't get into BG1. Sure, BG1 gave you more "freedom" in the sense that there were more areas to explore, but most of them were pointless filler wilderness areas that had maybe 2-3 scripted events that were completely uninteresting. I didn't really feel the incentive to explore every nook and cranny of the map like I did in BG2 because the payoff just wasn't worth it. For me, BG1 was a huge drag before you actually got into the titular city of Baldur's Gate. In BG2, they did away with all the meaningless filler and cut straight to the chase. Almost every area in the game has at least one major quest attached to it, and although the diversity in locale aren't as varied as in BG1, the quest and story design are done a lot better IMO. Less fetch quests, less time spent walking aimlessly around the wilderness, more time getting involved in the story. | ||
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Billy_
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Rflcrx
503 Posts
On December 27 2010 22:38 Spritescaper wrote: Less fetch quests, Just a quick note: BG1 had almost no fetch quests, I am pretty certain BG2 had more of those (which is only logical because free quests don't work well in linear worlds (too much can be broken by the player), while fetch quests always work, no matter how the world is made). | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On December 27 2010 21:39 Rflcrx wrote: Anybody else here has problems with BG2? I loved BG1, but I really dislike BG2 because you start with a high level. I loved the first chapters of BG1 the most, where you were exploring and starting the story slowly. For me this feeling is missing in BG2, you are directly in a huge city with way too many NPCs/too many options. I never got really into BG2 for that reason.. Anybody know RPGs that have this slow and free start of BG1? New or old, I don't really care.. I was about to jump down your throat for blasphemy, when I realised that I too was like this. At first I disliked everything you described too, I didn't play BG2 for maybe 3 years after a quick 30 minute go because of this very reason. Of course you can get OVER this small problem. Being dumped in the city was extremely overwhelming but you WILL get over it. When you just reflect at how much of a repetitive grind actually levelling characters from low is, and when you have played through 50 hours of the game and haven't even covered 1/2 of the quests, I am CERTAIN you will be able to forgive it. There is -no- straight up D&D RPG as good as this game. Plus didn't you also hate the whole *stand in front of a rat swinging for 1 minute until you hit it* thing? | ||
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Rflcrx
503 Posts
I tried to continue using my characters with the megamod, but the mod was broken so it never worked. Due to the megamod I never really had the whole "1 minute until you hit a rat" experience, as you can just skip the tutorial. And after you have done that you quickly have a party and there won't be any fights that last longer without anything actually happening. Of course the whole thing is just personal preference, it was the same in Fallout, where I enjoyed the first half of the game more than the last, because I felt that in the later stages of the game you become too powerful (even on higher difficulties). Non linear explorer RPGs are just too rare :/ | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On December 27 2010 23:00 sc4k wrote: I was about to jump down your throat for blasphemy, when I realised that I too was like this. At first I disliked everything you described too, I didn't play BG2 for maybe 3 years after a quick 30 minute go because of this very reason. Of course you can get OVER this small problem. Being dumped in the city was extremely overwhelming but you WILL get over it. When you just reflect at how much of a repetitive grind actually levelling characters from low is, and when you have played through 50 hours of the game and haven't even covered 1/2 of the quests, I am CERTAIN you will be able to forgive it. There is -no- straight up D&D RPG as good as this game. Plus didn't you also hate the whole *stand in front of a rat swinging for 1 minute until you hit it* thing? hehe felt that way when i recently installed PS:T again. once youre out of the mortuary youre in that big city with exactly no clue at all what to do. but after the first hour or so i already was sucked in and spent the next 3 days doing nothing but playing . while it may be a bit "scary" that feeling of getting thrown into a normal big city where evrybody minds his own business and you are just a clueless guy trying to find out wtf is going on is damn cool. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Also, what the hell @ NWN2. I played the game recently with a friend, hoping to enjoy it. What a vain hope. The voice acting made me want to vomit, the story and characters were completely contrived and unimpressive, the game system extremely cliché with no innovation and (well this is my prejudice) a worse method of character control than almost any other DnD RPG. The whole art design and pacing of the game makes me think it was designed for preschoolers. What an embarrassment of a game. I honestly can't help but think that people who prefer NWN to BG are simply lacking maturity. It was upsetting, because I'm still waiting for a really great RPG to come along and give me a mix of the beauty of Dragon Age and the gameplay of BG 1/2. | ||
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theBOOCH
United States832 Posts
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Casta
Denmark234 Posts
On January 02 2011 18:56 theBOOCH wrote: Has anyone played Dragon Age? I hear it's supposed to be the true spiritual successor to BG/IWD. Well it is a great game, but only the main quests seems worthy. All the side quests seem rather half-made or pointless with a lot of re-usage of the same areas. If you want to pick up the game and play it I would recommend to get an AI/Tactics mod, because the original one is very limited and it is quite easy to end up with retarded party members. The game is not the spiritual successor to BG/IWD even though it sort of tries. It is a very different game, but one worth playing non the less. Don't expect it to consume as much time as the BG series though as it is way more repetitive and boring combat despite the better graphics and gore. My oppinion anyway. | ||
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Rflcrx
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