• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:14
CEST 12:14
KST 19:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced11Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid21
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data needed Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [ASL21] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1861 users

Red 5 Studios unveils Firefall f2p shooter MMO - Page 16

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 32 Next All
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
July 18 2012 14:56 GMT
#301
Whatever F2p games may be, it's pretty obvious from what we have been shown from the development teams that they are interested in creating an absolutely fantastic game that is going to blow all other games and genres out of the water
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 18 2012 16:57 GMT
#302
Is this even in beta? I haven't heard any news in awhile!
FADC
Railgan
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland1507 Posts
July 18 2012 17:30 GMT
#303
i would love a betakey if someone has one
Grandmaster Zerg from Switzerland!!! www.twitch.tv/railgan // www.twitter.com/railgansc // www.youtube.com/c/railgansc
Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
July 18 2012 17:34 GMT
#304
On July 18 2012 23:56 BrTarolg wrote:
Whatever F2p games may be, it's pretty obvious from what we have been shown from the development teams that they are interested in creating an absolutely fantastic game that is going to blow all other games and genres out of the water



But will it kill WoW ?
Railgan
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland1507 Posts
July 18 2012 19:57 GMT
#305
MMO Shooter =! WoW killer :D
Grandmaster Zerg from Switzerland!!! www.twitch.tv/railgan // www.twitter.com/railgansc // www.youtube.com/c/railgansc
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 20:05:53
July 18 2012 20:05 GMT
#306
On July 19 2012 02:34 Mondieu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 23:56 BrTarolg wrote:
Whatever F2p games may be, it's pretty obvious from what we have been shown from the development teams that they are interested in creating an absolutely fantastic game that is going to blow all other games and genres out of the water



But will it kill WoW ?

Funny enough, Mark Kern the founder of Red 5 was the former team lead of vanilla WoW.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
July 19 2012 10:18 GMT
#307
Afaik the next release of keys is coming after the next patch so you might aswell wait for that anyway

The vast majority (including me) of beta testers are on hiatus until the next patch comes out as there is very little to test atm
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1281 Posts
July 20 2012 07:45 GMT
#308
On July 19 2012 19:18 BrTarolg wrote:
Afaik the next release of keys is coming after the next patch so you might aswell wait for that anyway

The vast majority (including me) of beta testers are on hiatus until the next patch comes out as there is very little to test atm


Sadly, since all the better pvp players are on hiatus, there are generally not enough players in pvp to get a game going for most hours of a day. And when it does get going, due to the low playerbase atm, what little matchmaking it has completely doesn't work, so the vast majority of pvps are dominated by a few of us, often while messing around. That can't be encouraging for new players.

For t his reason alone, I can't wait for the milestone
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1281 Posts
July 21 2012 07:22 GMT
#309
Engi teaser also out.



That with the blog post on it makes engi looks like probably the most interesting frame after the milestone, at least for me.
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
July 21 2012 13:52 GMT
#310
On July 21 2012 16:22 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Engi teaser also out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCtkHCEK_gI&feature=player_detailpage

That with the blog post on it makes engi looks like probably the most interesting frame after the milestone, at least for me.

OMG yes tesla gun!

Seriously i can't wait for this patch sooooo badly
Tom Cruise
Profile Joined July 2012
Denmark482 Posts
July 21 2012 14:07 GMT
#311
On September 04 2010 11:37 eSen1a wrote:
all you gotta do is bold microtransactions and the game is now irrelevant


Microtransactions > pay €20 a month for content you may or may not like.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 21 2012 17:17 GMT
#312
On July 21 2012 23:07 Tom Cruise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 11:37 eSen1a wrote:
all you gotta do is bold microtransactions and the game is now irrelevant


Microtransactions > pay €20 a month for content you may or may not like.


Please don't start this discussion again in another thread. Most people know the Pros and Cons already, and regardless of what we think in this thread the development team has already made the decision for how Firefall will conduct transactions.

That being said i'm really excited for this and hope I get a key soon after signing up since the begining!
FADC
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 05:11:38
July 25 2012 05:11 GMT
#313
Dread preview is out as well as the developer milestone blog http://www.firefallthegame.com/blog/



Milestone release won't be before the end of July according to an inside source, but they are expecting it by August 2nd which isn't too far past

i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
AMaidensWrath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Belgium206 Posts
July 25 2012 05:13 GMT
#314
Interested how this game's going to do once it comes out.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 25 2012 05:17 GMT
#315
On July 21 2012 23:07 Tom Cruise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 11:37 eSen1a wrote:
all you gotta do is bold microtransactions and the game is now irrelevant


Microtransactions > pay €20 a month for content you may or may not like.

Is Tom Cruise the new baller? HB I can see you in there ;o

But I agree with this. Cosmetic microtransactions are fine with me, since everbody wants to differentiate him/herself etc.

Also hats.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
July 25 2012 05:28 GMT
#316
On July 21 2012 22:52 BrTarolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 16:22 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Engi teaser also out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCtkHCEK_gI&feature=player_detailpage

That with the blog post on it makes engi looks like probably the most interesting frame after the milestone, at least for me.

OMG yes tesla gun!

Seriously i can't wait for this patch sooooo badly


That's not a Tesla Gun, it's a Void Ray Gun!
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
July 25 2012 06:57 GMT
#317
On July 25 2012 14:28 MetalPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 22:52 BrTarolg wrote:
On July 21 2012 16:22 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Engi teaser also out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCtkHCEK_gI&feature=player_detailpage

That with the blog post on it makes engi looks like probably the most interesting frame after the milestone, at least for me.

OMG yes tesla gun!

Seriously i can't wait for this patch sooooo badly


That's not a Tesla Gun, it's a Void Ray Gun!


Wait a second, you're right!

*mind blown*
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
July 26 2012 19:32 GMT
#318
Last battleframe milestone video is up



Recon looks scary as fuck, but so do the rest of the frames. Hopefully it will reach some Brood War like playability where you counter imbalance with imbalance Being powerful is fun as long as you're not the only one that's powerful.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
July 28 2012 06:51 GMT
#319
New Eurogamer article is out

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-07-28-red-5-copious-changes-have-made-firefall-beta-more-life-firefall-2
Euro servers are finally coming out, and there is going to be a 10k euro beta tourny.

Upcoming free-to-play shooter Firefall has made a myriad of substantial changes to its design and mechanics, developer Red 5 Studios has announced.

Nearly everything from the way level progression works, to special abilities, load out customisation, mining and crafting, the way shooting feels and hit-box detection have been radically altered, as detailed on the official blog.

"The internal joke is it's more life Firefall 2," said Red 5 CEO Mark Kern in a Skype interview with Eurogamer earlier today.

So why all the changes? "It was all player driven," explained Kern. "A huge thing for us is we don't want to create game in a vacuum. We don't want to spend millions of dollars making the game and then ship it and realise 'oh, we liked the game, but the players didn't like the game."

"So we decided to open our beta very, very early and this was very unusual because most betas are when you're content complete, feature complete and there's no time to really change anything except a couple of numbers here and there. We decided that we wanted to actually mitigate our risk, get to the fun quickly and find out what's working and what's not with our customers as soon as possible."

"Because it was so early we were able to make huge substantive changes within the game which I think people are going to be really thrilled with."

Not everyone likes change, though. Particularly those who were already winning. Kern predicted an initial backlash.

"We changed everything, so whatever you had that was a favourite, we've likely changed it so that it's not as favourite as it used to be for you. In which case there's going to be a very long thread in our forums about how everyone hates the game for at least a week, I'd say."

Following that initial shock, "I think people will settle into it, give it a chance and try other things. A lot of that people will discover, 'Hey, if I'm willing to change the way I play or I'm willing to try all these new features I'm going to find something else that I love even better."

Kern went on to explain the challenges of balancing a shooter with an MMO so that people would gain experience and want to keep playing, yet it wouldn't be impenetrable for newcomers.

One of the changes is that levels are now tiered rather than granular like most RPGs. Get to a new tier and you can equip different gear.

"What we're trying to do is provide more tactical options to players. More ways to play their class and use their skill to figure out which style of customisation of their battleframe suits the way they want to play. That is much, much more difficult than simply increasing the amount of damage and health at every step."

"Having worked on WoW and having worked on this game, I can say that this game is far more challenging to balance."

Elsewhere in the interview Kern confirmed that there won't be an open beta. "We pop out more and more invites until we've reached a large population on it... One day we'll drop the beta tag and then anyone can download it."

The reason for this is mostly technical. It's easier to grow the system bit by bit than bite off more than you can chew all at once and get slammed with technical difficulties. "That way we don't have the huge surges... By the time you hit open beta you're just letting a huge number of people in all at once, which is very challenging for any system. We prefer to grow more organically." He then explained that they only add a group at a time so they can stabilise the system as they go. Having 500,000 new players all at once "can quickly turn into a technical nightmare."

The new version of Firefall will be playable at Gamecom on 16th to 19th of August in Cologne, Germany where the Electronic Sports League will run the first European Firefall beta tournament culminating in a grand prize of €10,000.


In regards to the first few paragraphs I can say that Red 5 is far and away the most community driven development team I've ever seen. The beta forums are littered with developer posts and constant updates. A huge reason behind them completely reworking the game as stated above is from all the feedback they've received from players.
It's really cool to give feedback and KNOW that it is getting read by multiple people on the development team and elsewhere.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
July 28 2012 07:25 GMT
#320
I remember playing a HELL LOT of Counter-Strike with Superhero and Warcraft mods. Will this be something like that ?

I got limited bandwidth and I can't afford to watch trailers unfortunately
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 32 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Master Swan Open #102
CranKy Ducklings34
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 1197
Mind 1089
Larva 353
Mini 330
actioN 249
Sharp 136
EffOrt 116
ggaemo 105
Backho 82
Aegong 81
[ Show more ]
ZerO 56
Last 35
Hm[arnc] 34
Bale 16
soO 12
Movie 9
Dota 2
Gorgc1249
NeuroSwarm172
ODPixel70
League of Legends
JimRising 476
Counter-Strike
zeus895
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King167
amsayoshi48
Westballz40
Other Games
gofns7889
singsing1444
Pyrionflax211
ArmadaUGS92
Trikslyr32
ZerO(Twitch)5
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream9043
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream5071
Other Games
gamesdonequick744
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 11
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 66
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 23
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1476
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
46m
SC Evo League
3h 16m
IPSL
5h 46m
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
8h 46m
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
Patches Events
11h 46m
CranKy Ducklings
13h 46m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
23h 46m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d
Ladder Legends
1d 4h
BSL
1d 8h
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
[ Show More ]
IPSL
1d 8h
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
1d 22h
Wardi Open
1d 23h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 23h
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Escore
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W3
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.