Guild Wars 2 - Page 91

On August 22 2011 05:40 OblivionMage wrote:


That does not change the matter of the thread title being misleading -- one would assume that they were given permission to use the name TeamLiquid for the guild, reading the title.

On August 22 2011 05:41 optical630 wrote:


stop trying to backseat moderate.

On August 22 2011 05:47 OblivionMage wrote:


I sort of expect a forum to be bound to it's own rules and guidelines -- it's hard to care about rules when the creators don't seem to.

On August 22 2011 05:47 OblivionMage wrote:



'TL' on TeamLiquid.net means Team Liquid. To claim otherwise is silly, and possibly misleading.

Advertising a specific guild in a discussion thread... I'll explain it here:

- USER sees a thread! Hooray!
"Guild Wars 2: TL Guild/Discussion"

"Awesome! I'm really excited for Guild Wars 2, and there's gonna be a TeamLiquid guild for it? Sweet."

USER finds out that TL Guild apparently does not mean TeamLiquid Guild, but instead means TeamLegacy Guild -- a guild/community totally separate from TeamLiquid. Not only is this extremely valuable advertising for TeamLegacy -- how clearly is it stated that TeamLegacy isn't the official TeamLiquid GW2 Guild -- If the user wants to discuss Guild Wars 2, they have to come here, and sift through the TeamLegacy recruitment posts.

Edit: Perhaps I am mistaken -- sort of. Is TeamLegacy considered the TeamLiquid.net Guild Wars 2 Guild? If so, I understand, although it's still misleading, and strange that such a guild would get that sort of sponsorship. If not, I am confused.

On a serious note, we simply are not involved with the previous "Team Liquid" of GW1, and in the competitive field, whether they were successful or not, do not want to be mixed up with their reputation (which they have). I'm sure they were respected individuals, given the quality of those in this community, but we are not associated, and therefore they deserve the respect of their histories, before they broke up, to stay intact. Right now, I am speaking for the very community members surrounding you.

On an official note, the real "team liquid" members (assuming you mean the ones we cheer on in competitive SC2) will not be playing GW or GW2. They are instead focusing 100% on delivering their dream of bringing SC2 to new heights in the US and abroad. their drive to "better" e-sports is quite inspirational, and why Team Liquid is growing by the day.

Yes, of course I talked to the TL staff about this, they knew about this thread before it even existed, and they knew of the site before it was even an idea. Do I look like I want to be banned?

Why a seperate site? Because R1CH/admins would laugh at the number of forum categories and php/javascript tables and databases we would need them to create to run the guild as efficiently as we need to, this is leagues above LoL or Dota2 as far as required organization for the e-sports scene. I understand it may be trivial to you, but this guild is not a "casual get together" guild like you see all over the Sports and Games section. Those guilds/groups can get away with a single forum and 20-50 threads.

Well of course this guild isn't going to be the official TLAF-Liquid` clan -_-
It's the "TeamLiquid" guild because most of its members (so far) are from Team Liquid. They have a new name because unlike other TeamLiquid guilds, this one it trying to take it further and make a new name for themselves in the GW2 community. However, TeamLegacy will always be somewhat linked to TeamLiquid

I think the thing about calling it the "Team Liquid Guild" is just that there should be more connecting people on a team than their fan-dom of another team. You don't see Nazgul on their roster so therefore they really shouldnt be taking the name for themselves, especially to be represented in the competitive scene.

TL only very recently acquired its official SC2 team, Teamliquid is the name of the community site.

Team Legacy has everything to do with that community.

On August 22 2011 05:47 OblivionMage wrote:
The obvious solution is to split up the thread: Guild Wars 2 (as with the Diablo 3 thread, another upcoming and highly anticipated game with lots of relevent discussion), and a TeamLegacy GW2 Guild advertisement thread. No, advertisements such as that are not permitted here. Has TeamLegacy hijacked the Guild Wars 2 discussion thread, and mods just don't bother to do anything about it? Perhaps the mods are a part of TeamLegacy, or endorse it over other guilds that may want to advertise.

On August 22 2011 11:40 Lonniehaskel wrote:
In other news, there WILL be 5v5, it just hasn't been covered in detail yet. Unless I've just somehow overlooked any announcement saying otherwise.

On August 22 2011 12:23 Norada wrote:

also is this r33k guy or irninja in any decent guild for gw1? a lot of people have big talk but no one was known in gw here for the most part.

On August 22 2011 12:23 Norada wrote:
I think the reason why they're not calling the competitive pvp format gvg is because gvg had a bunch of constraints with it. You needed people in your guild to play and it was pretty hard to pug and just in general play the game. With a new system where you can just make a team that is not tied to anything is the best bet. There will probably need to have things where you can't smurf hardcore, but im sure they have things figured out.

also is this r33k guy or irninja in any decent guild for gw1? a lot of people have big talk but no one was known in gw here for the most part.

On August 22 2011 13:22 r33k wrote:

Sarcasm and beating vD. 2 things norada doesn't know.

On August 22 2011 14:02 Norada wrote:


No idea who you are, or i would respond with something witty :D Maybe you should get a nice screening from the great "Lemming" before responding

Ten Ton Hammer: Any sort of plans for Guild vs. Guild PvP?

Eric: No, that’s one thing that is a pretty big departure. The reason we didn’t want to do it is that even in guild vs. guild in Guild Wars 1, we found that what we had to do is create a lot of systems to circumvent that. It was just really hard to get that many people all from the same guild on at any given time.

What we’ve said instead is that our guilds are going to be about building social networks, and if there is a group of people that are the hardcore PvP guys they’re all going to be in the same guild anyway so that’s OK. And they’re going to register as a team, and be known as the team from a specific guild and build up a reputation. And then that gives them the flexibility that if they want to have a top team along with a team 2 and team 3, they can do that kind of thing. So we wanted to disassociate the two things.

Now in World vs. World there are things like guild keep claiming, so you will claim a keep that your world has conquered, and your guild can claim that and fly their banners, they can upgrade it, spend resources, and do all kinds of stuff.

We haven’t talked that much about our guild activities and things like that, but we want to have systems so guilds have reasons to play together, and we’ll talk about that once we have more of it developed. But guilds in our game are going to be all about social networking and giving them reasons to play together, but not forcing them to do anything.


Spectator mode? Yes, please!

Ten Ton Hammer: Will there be a system similar to GW1 that allows players to observe ranked matches?

Eric: There definitely will be. Whether that will be in at launch, we’re still not sure. We definitely want one, and right now we’re looking into how feasible it is to get one in for launch or not.

Ten Ton Hammer: In those plans then, will there be any kind of system that allow players to save, share, or automatically flag matches played by their guild members or friends list for quick reference?

Eric: So kind of like a replay system? Yeah, we totally want to do something like that too. I mean, we want the game to support competitive play as much as we can and I think you need observation, I think you need replays in order to do that. If you’re a competitive player you need to be able to look at it and dissect what you did. So we’re going to look at the feasibility of doing that. Again, it might be a feature we go to after launch.

For Glory... and loot?

Ten Ton Hammer: It seems like a smart design decision to put players on a level playing field in structured PvP in terms of level, skills, and gear. But will PvP include any kind of reward or advancement system to make it more appealing to casual players who may not be interested in the more competitive tournament play?

Eric: For competitive PvP it’s not going to include any power advancement, it’s going to include cosmetic advancement. So you’ll earn Glory in PvP and then you’ll use that to buy super cool armor. All PvP players start out with the exact same, low-level looking armor. It’s all statistically the same, but then as you gain Glory you can be like, OK now I have this badass armor, and people will know that guy is really good because he has that super awesome armor.

The thing that we really wanted to do was make it so that you didn’t feel like someone had an advantage over you because they’ve played longer in this type of PvP. We wanted to make it so that you felt like, hey I have the exact same chance because it’s going to be skill-based. But we wanted to give people something that they could work towards, so that’s where we’ve got the cosmetic stuff, and there are titles or achievements that people can earn in PvP as well.

Ten Ton Hammer: Will your PvP successes factor into your personal story in any way?

Eric: No, PvP is really separate from PvE. The most overlap we’re going to have in our PvP is World vs. World PvP which we’re not really showing yet. But in World vs. World you’re the same exact character, so you can go into World vs. World and find a cool item, and when you come back to PvE you’ve still got the cool item because you’re the exact same guy.

You can go into World vs. World and gain three levels and then go back into PvE and you’re three levels higher, and that sort of thing. So we’ve tried to keep PvP and PvE separate as far as the two affecting each other.

On August 22 2011 17:01 Morfildur wrote:


Thats so.... stupid -.-

"We've seen that people had fun in GvG but some guilds didn't manage to form a team so we decided to scrap GvG completely. If you liked GvG, you can still play other PvP."

Uhm... we don't want other PvP, we want GvG. No HoH, Team arena, random arena or alliance battles. GvG.
Thats like removing 1v1 from SC2 because people are afraid to ladder 1v1 and saying "you can still make custom games".