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RaKooNs
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom397 Posts
August 20 2011 16:27 GMT
#1761
There is no release date, nor beta release date released by arenenet, the above information is incorrect.
If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow - SlayerS_MMA
irninja
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1220 Posts
August 20 2011 17:08 GMT
#1762
TB uploaded the Pvp video, check out his channel.
www.teamlegacy.net | MMO junkies
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
August 20 2011 17:22 GMT
#1763
PVP is looking pretty fun, hopefully that ain't the only mode...
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17774 Posts
August 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#1764
I really hope they're going to add some more armours though. Especially some class-specific ones. It kinda pains me to see all the casters look exactly the same, can't really tell if it's necro or ele just by looking at them.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
irninja
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1220 Posts
August 20 2011 18:57 GMT
#1765
On August 21 2011 02:22 Shalaiyn wrote:
PVP is looking pretty fun, hopefully that ain't the only mode...

Its not. You have WvW, GvG, Tournament, etc.
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phoochka
Profile Joined February 2010
15 Posts
August 20 2011 19:21 GMT
#1766
I haven't read the whole thread, but I hope someone remembers the time before the first expansion (Factions ?) when imo GW was most balanced. There were some truly epic GvGs with guilds like Idiot Savants (iQ) and the Korean beast that was War Machine and many more that I don't remember anymore. I think guild wars GvGs really had some had a lot of depth with things like positioning, line of sight, flag running etc. being developed way ahead of other games at the time. There was quite a skill curve when playing proper balanced setups as you had to perfect adrenal spiking, the fraction of a second interrupts and infuses, animation canceling, then adjusting to all the different fotm builds.

Even if the PvP in GW2 is nowhere near the same level at launch, I hope we can convince Anet to give us *somthing* after they are done with the carebear stuff
Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 19:26:59
August 20 2011 19:24 GMT
#1767
On August 21 2011 01:27 RaKooNs wrote:
There is no release date, nor beta release date released by arenenet, the above information is incorrect.


Actually there is,

Beta testing is expected to occur sometime in 2011 according to the Guild Wars 2 FAQ.


Taken from http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2#Beta_testing
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On August 21 2011 03:57 irninja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 02:22 Shalaiyn wrote:
PVP is looking pretty fun, hopefully that ain't the only mode...

Its not. You have WvW, GvG, Tournament, etc.


I can't wait to try some WvW, the game mode itself feels like it has potential for so much!
Been waiting for Gw2 for 5+ years, and it does not look like a disappointment .
iNdEMAND
Profile Joined July 2010
130 Posts
August 20 2011 23:26 GMT
#1768
Been following this game for a while but trying not to soak up all the information yet...it'll just make the wait that much harder. Just had to say that the game looks amazing!
Wesso
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1245 Posts
August 20 2011 23:35 GMT
#1769
On August 21 2011 03:57 irninja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 02:22 Shalaiyn wrote:
PVP is looking pretty fun, hopefully that ain't the only mode...

Its not. You have WvW, GvG, Tournament, etc.


Is GvG confirmed by developers too? I missed that one, even though I assume it will be in, you can't count on anything nowadays anymore
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
August 20 2011 23:49 GMT
#1770
On August 21 2011 04:24 Kolvacs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 01:27 RaKooNs wrote:
There is no release date, nor beta release date released by arenenet, the above information is incorrect.


Actually there is,
Show nested quote +

Beta testing is expected to occur sometime in 2011 according to the Guild Wars 2 FAQ.


Taken from http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2#Beta_testing


Yeh but they said they would beta test back in the summer of 08 and that never happened xD. I gave up a long time ago waiting for a gws 2 beta.
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irninja
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1220 Posts
August 21 2011 00:14 GMT
#1771
Short interview in-passing from some of our community members.
http://teamlegacy.net/page/index.html/_/gw2/interview-with-braeden-shosa-gamescom-r46
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Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
August 21 2011 00:42 GMT
#1772
On August 21 2011 08:49 Benjef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 04:24 Kolvacs wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:27 RaKooNs wrote:
There is no release date, nor beta release date released by arenenet, the above information is incorrect.


Actually there is,

Beta testing is expected to occur sometime in 2011 according to the Guild Wars 2 FAQ.


Taken from http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2#Beta_testing


Yeh but they said they would beta test back in the summer of 08 and that never happened xD. I gave up a long time ago waiting for a gws 2 beta.

I know, right? I've seen three different beta time frames, none of them have really panned out yet though!
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kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
August 21 2011 06:25 GMT
#1773
On August 20 2011 06:19 Doodlerapid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 02:12 Laids wrote:
Really disappointed with the PvP shown,carbon copy of WoW : /

Everything else looks solid though.


The PvP looks a lot like the first game's, which was much more refined and balanced than WoW's. If anything, this is just taking their template for structured PvP from GW1 and expanding on it with the new features in GW2?

Also, how can it be a carbon copy of WoW if the combat system for both games is so drastically different?


I actually thought it looked nothing like PvP from GW1 (and I've played thousand of GvG's in Top-50 Guilds) and although I think GW2 is gonna be awesome, expecially for PvP, I kinda question certain decision:

- I don't know how PvP with 8v8 players etc. will differ from 5v5, but 5v5 was essentially only "capture-the-point", which is a bit weird compared to GW1, where you had to hold the flagstand and constantly get the flag, you where also able to win by killing off NPC's and maybe later gank the GuildLord, you could just win by overrunning the other team at the Flagstand and many Maps had their own little special features like points you could hold for certain bonuses etc.
- I really like the new action-oriented gameplay, but what really leaves me with a tear in my eyes is the decision not to have a designated healer, not to have interrupts and to take out body-blocking.
- Also, the decision to cut out interrupts, mana in general and Hexes really makes me wonder how for example a class like the Mesmer could even work (which is the class that is often speculated to be the last one thats gonna be revealed, or at least sth. similar to the mesmer).

But as I've said, I guess the extremely cool new gameplay, which will require a lot more skill, speed and precision than other MMO's will most likely make up for a lot of stuff I've mentioned above.
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Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
August 21 2011 07:57 GMT
#1774
On August 21 2011 08:35 Wesso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 03:57 irninja wrote:
On August 21 2011 02:22 Shalaiyn wrote:
PVP is looking pretty fun, hopefully that ain't the only mode...

Its not. You have WvW, GvG, Tournament, etc.


Is GvG confirmed by developers too? I missed that one, even though I assume it will be in, you can't count on anything nowadays anymore


No GvG in Guild wars 2. http://www.mmocrunch.com/2011/08/20/guild-wars-2-interview-jon-peters-only-one-structured-pvp-mode/

Kind weird huh?
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
August 21 2011 08:27 GMT
#1775
On August 21 2011 16:57 Pwnographics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 08:35 Wesso wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:57 irninja wrote:
On August 21 2011 02:22 Shalaiyn wrote:
PVP is looking pretty fun, hopefully that ain't the only mode...

Its not. You have WvW, GvG, Tournament, etc.


Is GvG confirmed by developers too? I missed that one, even though I assume it will be in, you can't count on anything nowadays anymore


No GvG in Guild wars 2. http://www.mmocrunch.com/2011/08/20/guild-wars-2-interview-jon-peters-only-one-structured-pvp-mode/

Kind weird huh?


In the video they say there is a second pvp format, world v world (sounds sorta like tombs but extended to more areas to me). That said, by far the best part of gw and the only thing that kept me playing as long as I did was the community aspect of it. Getting a guild together, having your regular guest list and knowing which classes they could each play, and especially getting into your roles in gvg knowing what things people can take care of without being told; that was what made it fun. I still remember some epic come from behind wins and trolling pug groups (all /A tele bars or 4 derv aoe spam back when that was so fucking broken). I can't see how this will really last without some kind of gvg, and this 5v5 thing feels like it is less about working together as a group.
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
August 21 2011 09:47 GMT
#1776
On August 21 2011 09:42 Chuiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 08:49 Benjef wrote:
On August 21 2011 04:24 Kolvacs wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:27 RaKooNs wrote:
There is no release date, nor beta release date released by arenenet, the above information is incorrect.


Actually there is,

Beta testing is expected to occur sometime in 2011 according to the Guild Wars 2 FAQ.


Taken from http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2#Beta_testing


Yeh but they said they would beta test back in the summer of 08 and that never happened xD. I gave up a long time ago waiting for a gws 2 beta.

I know, right? I've seen three different beta time frames, none of them have really panned out yet though!

There is a interview with the Yogscast. THe developer confirmed that they are in alpha fase right now.

Closed beta will be in 2011. Open Beta depends on when the closed beta is done. Release date depends on when the Open Beta is done.

They don't want to give it a timefame, since they wan't to apply improvements.

http://www.youtube.com/bluexephos#p/u/2/7r_oAx7zg98
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
August 21 2011 12:50 GMT
#1777
PvP looks really solid in GW2. So far so good.

One thing I was wondering about is:

If I play alone and want do join "hot joins" is there any matchmaking (and maybe rating for players) done at all? It's always more fun to play with people on your own skill level.

That's why I love SC2 ladder. I can watch the pros but I don't have to fear that I won't be able to play like that because I am always playing with people on my own skill level so it doesn't matter that there are people 10 times better than me since I won't be playing with them.
E_minus
Profile Joined July 2009
Russian Federation60 Posts
August 21 2011 13:03 GMT
#1778
I can't help but notice that some of guys think about GW2 as if it was a complete product. It's not. Things will change a lot.
It's still in alpha, you should have seen WoW alpha... oh boy, it had _nothing_. WoW beta was far less polished than GW2 alpha.
If you don't like something, give arenanet feedback.
irninja
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1220 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 13:14:14
August 21 2011 13:13 GMT
#1779
Besides having a bunch of reliable members with experience to pool from +community obviously, it makes you wonder what the point of a guild is in GW2 the way theyre setting up PvP and stat tracking. :/

Don't get me wrong though.
www.teamlegacy.net | MMO junkies
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 15:22:10
August 21 2011 15:21 GMT
#1780
On August 20 2011 22:08 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 20:14 EscPlan9 wrote:
The PvP observing will continue to be interesting only to people deeply familiar with the intricacies involved.


Isn't that true for basically every game? While some may be easier to follow for laymans (mostly fighting games), you won't really understand what's going on if you're not familiar with the small details that make things epic but remain unknown/unseen for outsiders.


Splitting hairs here. Yes, it will be difficult to appreciate the intricacies of any game. That's not the point. The point is, can the game be enjoyable to observers without knowing those details, or will the game just look like people running around and attacking or casting spells?

Even within fighting games there are some that are easier to follow for a casual player. For instance, I have trouble following the Marvel vs Capcom type of fighting game since there is just so much going on and so much switching in the same round. With fighting games like SF and Tekken, I find it much easier to follow. I certainly do not play either game at a highly competitive level, but I can follow what's basically going on despite never playing the character, or even knowing the details of what they are doing (for reference, the last SF2 game I've owned and played a lot is SSF2 on SNES).

Also, with SC:BW and to a lesser degree SC2, again I am nowhere near a competitive level. However, as many casual players of the game can agree, it is a lot of fun to watch. Even to someone who has barely played the game, they have an intuitive feeling for when something is happening that can turn the tide of the battle. A simple example is when you see a zerg player with mostly workers and some defense at the natural, and a dropship comes into the main. It's easy to tell the zerg player is in a tough spot, which brings tension to the viewers. They may not understand everything involved to keep the macro and micro on a high level, but the general picture is exciting and understandable emotionally.

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