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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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HorsemasterK
United States606 Posts
On September 27 2012 21:19 Dandel Ion wrote: The difference is that GW1 was a good game and the complaining was unjustified. Oh, another witty internet warrior. Care to support this? Or are you just leaving it out there to stink up the thread? | ||
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
On September 28 2012 05:31 Nos- wrote: Guild Wars 1 was also a vastly different game both in its time and present time. It pretty much played like a single player game and gave you 1000+ skills or something to dick around with. Uhm, GW1 singleplayer game? For every noteable mission (i.e. storyline quest) you needed a full group (depending on area up to 8 players), NPCs only worked for the normal quests. Sure, there were some farming builds like 55hp monk and such that worked solo for some of the stuff but everything important required a team. Well, at least until Nightfall messed it up and added heroes. That expansion should never have existed. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
Don't see a lot of people here recognizing this simple fact. | ||
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kuresuti
1393 Posts
Yesterday I found a thief which I fought three times, losing twice and him running away the third (because he got caught in the Entangling Roots and I was pounding on him). I am not that familiar with the thief class since I've not tried it and haven't really read up on it, but as I understand it when they unstealth they have a 3 second cooldown before the next stealth, plenty of time to do something as a Ranger but as it turned out it wasn't for me. I've met quite a few thieves before, but nothing like this. He switched in and out of stealth with about a seconds visibility in between. After some googling I read something about the character model not getting rendered instantly after a destealth. He even stomped me before I could see him. Does this delayed vision exist, or was it just lag or something? Anyway my strategy was basically to wait for him to destealth and then immediately getting range between us and applying DPS. With what seemed like a really short time between stealths I didn't manage this at all. I've got a couple tools to buy time, the 5 on the SB and the Wolfs howl for 2 sec fear. I found it super difficult to hit with the howl seeing as it isn't instant and the thief being pretty fast. Any tips on what to do versus such a guy, or should I just flee? | ||
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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
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kuresuti
1393 Posts
On September 28 2012 22:15 CruelZeratul wrote: Don't go full glasscannon, problem solved. Ok, thanks! | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
You can always try to swap your signet for the signet of stone to cancel his burst. There's always the possibility of him outgearing you tho, not sure if it's a big problem in WvWvW. | ||
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kuresuti
1393 Posts
On September 28 2012 22:57 Noocta wrote: It's gonna be hard to beat thieves if you run a glass canon type of ranger. You can always try to swap your signet for the signet of stone to cancel his burst. There's always the possibility of him outgearing you tho, not sure if it's a big problem in WvWvW. My gear is pretty decent, I am only missing exotic armor pieces. Outgearing is a pretty big thing in WvW, but I am usually on the giving end so it doesn't really affect me that much. I ran the signet of stone before, but it didn't really make a difference since I can't utilize the "active signets also affects you" trait since I'm only running 20 in Marksmanship. At first I used the Muddy Terrain for a long while since it's awesome, but 10% movement speed helps more than one would think in WvW with chasing targets and travelling etc. With such a glasscannon build I get bursted down instantly sometimes which is a problem, but a problem I know of and simply accept as a flaw of my build. I'm not currently looking to modify my build (for better or for worse) to deal with this, I'm more interested in ways that I could combat a thief with very short windows of visibility. This particular thief bursted about 2/3rds of my health in one go and then downed me during the second stealth, or third in one case (which was probably just a misplay by him or something). EDIT: Regarding the graphical issue. Have you experienced it at all? EDIT: Upon further investigating, other people have reported almost permastealthed thieves in WvW too. It has to be a lag thing if it doesn't occur in sPvP. | ||
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Tilorn91
Serbia218 Posts
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On September 28 2012 23:20 kuresuti wrote: My gear is pretty decent, I am only missing exotic armor pieces. Outgearing is a pretty big thing in WvW, but I am usually on the giving end so it doesn't really affect me that much. I ran the signet of stone before, but it didn't really make a difference since I can't utilize the "active signets also affects you" trait since I'm only running 20 in Marksmanship. At first I used the Muddy Terrain for a long while since it's awesome, but 10% movement speed helps more than one would think in WvW with chasing targets and travelling etc. With such a glasscannon build I get bursted down instantly sometimes which is a problem, but a problem I know of and simply accept as a flaw of my build. I'm not currently looking to modify my build (for better or for worse) to deal with this, I'm more interested in ways that I could combat a thief with very short windows of visibility. This particular thief bursted about 2/3rds of my health in one go and then downed me during the second stealth, or third in one case (which was probably just a misplay by him or something). EDIT: Regarding the graphical issue. Have you experienced it at all? EDIT: Upon further investigating, other people have reported almost permastealthed thieves in WvW too. It has to be a lag thing if it doesn't occur in sPvP. Outgearing people isn't an issue in WvW. Outleveling them is. Your 500 health more aren't going to cut it when facing a superior player. | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
On September 29 2012 02:38 Otolia wrote: Outgearing people isn't an issue in WvW. Outleveling them is. Your 500 health more aren't going to cut it when facing a superior player. Along with levels, sigils and runes provide a pretty significant advantage vs people who just socket everything with gems. Thanks to Rune of the Soldier, I can cleanse up to 6 conditions (and cleanse 4 conditions from nearby allies). Sigil of Bloodlust is damn good too. I run 10 points in +power/+cond dura and dumped the rest in +vit/+boon dura and +tough/+healing, but I hit like a truck thanks to the +250 power from the sigil. Shit's OP. It's pretty much FOTM for warriors who aren't stupid, lol. | ||
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kuresuti
1393 Posts
On September 29 2012 02:38 Otolia wrote: Outgearing people isn't an issue in WvW. Outleveling them is. Your 500 health more aren't going to cut it when facing a superior player. I thought the levels were equalized so everybody would have the same base stats naked, no matter if you are a level 1 or 80 of whatever class. Equipping good gear still takes level requirement though. EDIT: Yeah traits of course. But still, gear is a big deal, superior runes are pretty good stuff. | ||
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oZii
United States1198 Posts
I think you utility skills and elites are bigger than the gear. Having extra clones and blink and decoy is a big deal in WvW as mesmer if I didn't have those skills I would get face rolled | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
On September 29 2012 03:40 kuresuti wrote: I thought the levels were equalized so everybody would have the same base stats naked, no matter if you are a level 1 or 80 of whatever class. Equipping good gear still takes level requirement though. EDIT: Yeah traits of course. But still, gear is a big deal, superior runes are pretty good stuff. I think there's some compensation. Some lowbies have more HP than I do and I'm specced+geared toughness and vitality. Doesn't seem to make a huge difference though, I completely smash anyone who isn't 80 in WvW. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On September 28 2012 20:48 kuresuti wrote: I'm running a glasscannon Shortbow/Sword-Warhorn Ranger, with Quickening Zephyr, Lightning Reflexes, Signet of the hunt(?, 10% MS one) and Entangling Roots. I've got Power/Precision/Crit damage gear with Ogre runes and a Sigil of Might in the shortbow. No runes on the switch. Jaguar/Wolf pets. This is WvW. Yesterday I found a thief which I fought three times, losing twice and him running away the third (because he got caught in the Entangling Roots and I was pounding on him). I am not that familiar with the thief class since I've not tried it and haven't really read up on it, but as I understand it when they unstealth they have a 3 second cooldown before the next stealth, plenty of time to do something as a Ranger but as it turned out it wasn't for me. I've met quite a few thieves before, but nothing like this. He switched in and out of stealth with about a seconds visibility in between. After some googling I read something about the character model not getting rendered instantly after a destealth. He even stomped me before I could see him. Does this delayed vision exist, or was it just lag or something? Anyway my strategy was basically to wait for him to destealth and then immediately getting range between us and applying DPS. With what seemed like a really short time between stealths I didn't manage this at all. I've got a couple tools to buy time, the 5 on the SB and the Wolfs howl for 2 sec fear. I found it super difficult to hit with the howl seeing as it isn't instant and the thief being pretty fast. Any tips on what to do versus such a guy, or should I just flee? the delay does indeed exist to make it look "pretty". But also, the game engine is very loose regarding which objects it actually draws and which not when there are more than like 50 objects around you. Especially in world pvp this will lead to enemies being drawn with a delay, or not at all. but against a thief as a ranger you want to be tank/condition build. power thief vs power ranger ( :O) is heavily in thief favor. thats just how it is, cant beat everyone. | ||
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kuresuti
1393 Posts
On September 29 2012 08:32 LaNague wrote: the delay does indeed exist to make it look "pretty". But also, the game engine is very loose regarding which objects it actually draws and which not when there are more than like 50 objects around you. Especially in world pvp this will lead to enemies being drawn with a delay, or not at all. but against a thief as a ranger you want to be tank/condition build. power thief vs power ranger ( :O) is heavily in thief favor. thats just how it is, cant beat everyone. I guess I'll have to try to avoid thieves for now. I've been saving up for a condition build for awhile, I can wait until then before taking down thieves. I appreciate the advice! | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
 I'm not buying MoP though. I will cut my wrists if I do another level grind... I've had my fair share of level grinding/farming. | ||
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Boggler
Canada234 Posts
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On September 30 2012 07:38 Boggler wrote: I am lvl 42 Ele. Game is fun but guild is soo damn quiet. I think a lot of people in the TL guild joined the Grindhouse Gaming guild. Ask Ozii about the guild or invite should get you into a much more active guild. | ||
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