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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 08 2012 16:29 GMT
#6401
Can't believe they are nerfing Pistol Whip.
Way to give up and anwser to baddies whinning. :/
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
3772
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic434 Posts
October 08 2012 18:12 GMT
#6402
Muscle memory in MMORPG, you are kidding right?
More to the topic, from the patch notes, it looks like the patch fixed almost none of the numerous bugged/wrongly tooltipped abilities. At least the patches are fairly frequent so we can hope for fixes later on.
RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
October 08 2012 18:25 GMT
#6403
So, last weekend I played with my brother for the first time. We are both level 50 or so, and decided to just adventure some. Probably the most fun I've had in a game in a long time. For those of you venturing solo and exploring the world, try grouping up with someone (anyone, even a stranger nearby). Its actually quite fun
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
October 08 2012 18:45 GMT
#6404
On October 09 2012 03:12 3772 wrote:
Muscle memory in MMORPG, you are kidding right?
More to the topic, from the patch notes, it looks like the patch fixed almost none of the numerous bugged/wrongly tooltipped abilities. At least the patches are fairly frequent so we can hope for fixes later on.




As a user in a starcraft forum you should know better than to dispute muscle memory for games.
But its not really a drama for this game, still really irritating though.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 08 2012 19:49 GMT
#6405
shortbow nerf ah well, still feels better than longbow (which i swap to though, the aoe is nice and has a big cd. the rapid fire thing isn't bad either) for leveling.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 04:29:16
October 09 2012 04:25 GMT
#6406
On October 09 2012 01:29 Noocta wrote:
Can't believe they are nerfing Pistol Whip.
Way to give up and anwser to baddies whinning. :/


baddies?

in PvP i think people who die to pistol whip are either bad or just didn't have their cooldowns up to evade / didn't evade first PW and got surprised (which happens).

I think PW thieves themselves are really one dimensional and bad, not as much as DD all in / deathblossum builds but its so easy to dodge PW that really unless you catch someone by surprise you're not going to be killing anyone. Its a really low skillcap build, especially if you pair it with haste since all it is is hoping to catch someone off guard (which is a skill in of itself, but the majority of SP thieves just go in and pistolwhip nothing so i don't think many people approach the build that way, SP could probably be a decent support build if people went that route, but maybe S/D would be better for that idk)

imo the nerf was unwarranted and a pretty decent nerf to pve champion solo, the only thing I think needs to be changed about PW is the fact the thief evades while pistol whipping. If I dodge it I should be able to do massive amounts of damage or be able to save my teammates with headshot who are being PW'd. instead it just evades for no reason (same thing with the warrior steal skill, these abilities shouldnt be immunity to damage)
hihihi
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 09 2012 04:49 GMT
#6407
On October 09 2012 13:25 askTeivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 01:29 Noocta wrote:
Can't believe they are nerfing Pistol Whip.
Way to give up and anwser to baddies whinning. :/


baddies?

in PvP i think people who die to pistol whip are either bad or just didn't have their cooldowns up to evade / didn't evade first PW and got surprised (which happens).

I think PW thieves themselves are really one dimensional and bad, not as much as DD all in / deathblossum builds but its so easy to dodge PW that really unless you catch someone by surprise you're not going to be killing anyone. Its a really low skillcap build, especially if you pair it with haste since all it is is hoping to catch someone off guard (which is a skill in of itself, but the majority of SP thieves just go in and pistolwhip nothing so i don't think many people approach the build that way, SP could probably be a decent support build if people went that route, but maybe S/D would be better for that idk)

imo the nerf was unwarranted and a pretty decent nerf to pve champion solo, the only thing I think needs to be changed about PW is the fact the thief evades while pistol whipping. If I dodge it I should be able to do massive amounts of damage or be able to save my teammates with headshot who are being PW'd. instead it just evades for no reason (same thing with the warrior steal skill, these abilities shouldnt be immunity to damage)


Well, that's what I was saying, the ability was fine, no need to touch it.

They really need to adress the Deathblossom Caltrop spec instead.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 05:24:14
October 09 2012 05:04 GMT
#6408
On October 09 2012 13:49 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 13:25 askTeivospy wrote:
On October 09 2012 01:29 Noocta wrote:
Can't believe they are nerfing Pistol Whip.
Way to give up and anwser to baddies whinning. :/


baddies?

in PvP i think people who die to pistol whip are either bad or just didn't have their cooldowns up to evade / didn't evade first PW and got surprised (which happens).

I think PW thieves themselves are really one dimensional and bad, not as much as DD all in / deathblossum builds but its so easy to dodge PW that really unless you catch someone by surprise you're not going to be killing anyone. Its a really low skillcap build, especially if you pair it with haste since all it is is hoping to catch someone off guard (which is a skill in of itself, but the majority of SP thieves just go in and pistolwhip nothing so i don't think many people approach the build that way, SP could probably be a decent support build if people went that route, but maybe S/D would be better for that idk)

imo the nerf was unwarranted and a pretty decent nerf to pve champion solo, the only thing I think needs to be changed about PW is the fact the thief evades while pistol whipping. If I dodge it I should be able to do massive amounts of damage or be able to save my teammates with headshot who are being PW'd. instead it just evades for no reason (same thing with the warrior steal skill, these abilities shouldnt be immunity to damage)


Well, that's what I was saying, the ability was fine, no need to touch it.

They really need to adress the Deathblossom Caltrop spec instead.


deathblossum build can be dealth with as any class that is able to kite, as such I think it doesn't need to be changed at all:


I use 10/30/0/10/20

in hindsight I could have stayed in and killed the two thieves + their pets at the end with clusterbomb, but whatev. point is to show that kiting is DD's pretty huge weakness. Even though I feel as if the last 1v1 was a mediocre kite, it still worked well (basic idea is to kite them low enough to have a huge HP advantage so that I can switch to dagger pistol and finish them off with stabbing and headshot heal). I think its an ok bunker spec if you have to tho, but in pick up games or wvwvw I feel it isn't really that useful of a build for straight up fighting.

I hear a lot of good things about caltrops + shortbow condition thieves though, but I havent seen anyone play it. Descriptions however make it sound like it would be really powerful, much more so than deathblossum for damage output at least. I could see it being really good though
hihihi
TMStarcraft
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia686 Posts
October 10 2012 10:59 GMT
#6409
Don't know if anyone has posted it yet but there's a great site for keeping track of dragon spawn times. Enjoy!

http://guildwarstemple.com/dragontimer/
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Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
October 10 2012 23:15 GMT
#6410
On October 10 2012 19:59 TMStarcraft wrote:
Don't know if anyone has posted it yet but there's a great site for keeping track of dragon spawn times. Enjoy!

http://guildwarstemple.com/dragontimer/


Thanks! Useful link!

And yeah TL guild is pretty much dead, and with the represent system it's pretty much permanently dead too. I've made my own guild and joined another one for boosts.

Annoying that you can't really have a solo guild going in this game as you will never have enough influence to get the upgrades (save for spending 1000g on letters that give influence). I probably will eventually just to get more storage space, and focus solely on those upgrades, but getting them all seems pretty rough.
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chaokel
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia535 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 05:28:48
October 11 2012 05:27 GMT
#6411
On October 11 2012 08:15 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 19:59 TMStarcraft wrote:
Don't know if anyone has posted it yet but there's a great site for keeping track of dragon spawn times. Enjoy!

http://guildwarstemple.com/dragontimer/


Thanks! Useful link!

And yeah TL guild is pretty much dead, and with the represent system it's pretty much permanently dead too. I've made my own guild and joined another one for boosts.

Annoying that you can't really have a solo guild going in this game as you will never have enough influence to get the upgrades (save for spending 1000g on letters that give influence). I probably will eventually just to get more storage space, and focus solely on those upgrades, but getting them all seems pretty rough.


It takes ages, i've had a solo guild since launch that i rep when i do influence stuff. I've managed to get a guild bank, and two first tier upgrades (politics + emblem, and economics) am currently heading for tier 2 economics, unfortunately still got ~300 influence to go.

edit: have yet to get up to the story mission where you get a letter, even though i've been 80 since like a week after launch :S
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
October 11 2012 09:53 GMT
#6412
Just reach 80. I am not sure what to do next
1 try to get 100% exploration?
2 try to finish story mode
3 try to get exotic gear?

What are your suggestion?
I really like this game but i am a casual player (I play like 1 hour/day). So I think I can not do everything that I want. May be try to finish story mode first?
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 09:57:00
October 11 2012 09:56 GMT
#6413
On October 11 2012 18:53 pedduck wrote:
Just reach 80. I am not sure what to do next
1 try to get 100% exploration?
2 try to finish story mode
3 try to get exotic gear?

What are your suggestion?
I really like this game but i am a casual player (I play like 1 hour/day). So I think I can not do everything that I want. May be try to finish story mode first?

All three of 'em, order is up to you. I went story => exploration => exotics.

Anyway does anyone know what the new karma cap is at after the patch?
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
October 11 2012 12:23 GMT
#6414
lolol scumbag chinese gold farmers just tried to log into my account yet again.

Address: 118.119.59.223
City: Tianyuanjing
Region: 32
Country: CN

gg because they're never getting into my uni email
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 11 2012 12:38 GMT
#6415
How did you catch them?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 13:14:07
October 11 2012 13:09 GMT
#6416
On October 09 2012 14:04 askTeivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 13:49 Noocta wrote:
On October 09 2012 13:25 askTeivospy wrote:
On October 09 2012 01:29 Noocta wrote:
Can't believe they are nerfing Pistol Whip.
Way to give up and anwser to baddies whinning. :/


baddies?

in PvP i think people who die to pistol whip are either bad or just didn't have their cooldowns up to evade / didn't evade first PW and got surprised (which happens).

I think PW thieves themselves are really one dimensional and bad, not as much as DD all in / deathblossum builds but its so easy to dodge PW that really unless you catch someone by surprise you're not going to be killing anyone. Its a really low skillcap build, especially if you pair it with haste since all it is is hoping to catch someone off guard (which is a skill in of itself, but the majority of SP thieves just go in and pistolwhip nothing so i don't think many people approach the build that way, SP could probably be a decent support build if people went that route, but maybe S/D would be better for that idk)

imo the nerf was unwarranted and a pretty decent nerf to pve champion solo, the only thing I think needs to be changed about PW is the fact the thief evades while pistol whipping. If I dodge it I should be able to do massive amounts of damage or be able to save my teammates with headshot who are being PW'd. instead it just evades for no reason (same thing with the warrior steal skill, these abilities shouldnt be immunity to damage)


Well, that's what I was saying, the ability was fine, no need to touch it.

They really need to adress the Deathblossom Caltrop spec instead.



I hear a lot of good things about caltrops + shortbow condition thieves though, but I havent seen anyone play it. Descriptions however make it sound like it would be really powerful, much more so than deathblossum for damage output at least. I could see it being really good though


Check out Jesiiz on Twitch for Shortbow condi, it's super effective build and it doesn't suffer from being kited like deathblossom which I think is just for trolling around. Shortbow version is the srs bsns version. The immobilize shot from stealth is soo powerful. I prefer to have dagger/pistol as the 2nd set for headshot and blackpowder. Actually, now that I think about it, I could probably do even better with sword/pistol, for an extra teleport and a stun.
(I have a horrible quality VoD on my channel that you can check out for the gameplay as well, tourney games going after 15:00 something.)
Teliko
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
October 11 2012 15:32 GMT
#6417
On October 11 2012 21:38 Ace wrote:
How did you catch them?

When someone tries to log in to a GW account from a new IP, it has to be confirmed via an email sent to the owner which consists of the new IP and location of attempted access. It's a pretty impressive foolproof system, yet so many people still manage to get their accounts stolen by having the same password for their email. Funny stuff.
Add a drop of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing at it.
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
October 11 2012 15:52 GMT
#6418
On October 12 2012 00:32 Teliko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 21:38 Ace wrote:
How did you catch them?

When someone tries to log in to a GW account from a new IP, it has to be confirmed via an email sent to the owner which consists of the new IP and location of attempted access. It's a pretty impressive foolproof system, yet so many people still manage to get their accounts stolen by having the same password for their email. Funny stuff.


:[ my d3 account was hacked maybe there is a correlation?
bubO
Profile Joined August 2010
United States367 Posts
October 11 2012 16:33 GMT
#6419
Man I love playing WvW fun as hell. Been playing on the Lower tier servers seriously Kaineng is like the best server ever.

Protoss...
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1689 Posts
October 12 2012 04:35 GMT
#6420
Hello guys, my team is looking to pick up a 5th as a replacement for one of our members who can't continue due to time management. We are a high level team and are looking for dedicated players who have experience with all the classes. Feel free to PM me if interested. This is for NA.
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