Guild Wars 2 - Page 310

On September 19 2012 00:42 chaokel wrote:
The patch was god damn terrible.

Every direction the patches have been taking the game have been wrong imo. I can understand that they want to "break up MMO norms" by removing farming and grinding, yet they have coupled this with massively increased prices on gears? Seriously not cool.

Anet wants me to run a dungeon over 50 times (fullclearing a path) which takes ages, or 160 times doing it as quickly as possible (still going to take ages), just to get some level 80 armour? Except now it seems like they don't even want people to be running dungeons often? I don't get it.

Or they remove the drop rate for fine crafting items, at the same time they implement an anti farming system. How exactly am i supposed to get these items if i can't even kill mobs for 15minutes at a time without getting 100% trash? I don't get it.

At the same time they switch over to one week format on WvW, when clearly there hasn't been enough data gathered. So many mismatches, complete stomps are going on right now. What do they want these people to do in the intrim? Run dungeons? nope. Craft? not unless you buy all your mats. Farm money? i dont think so. sPvP? not in any meaningful way. Sure i can pub stomp, or face potentially terrible people in free to play tournaments that have no real reward.

I guess they just want me to join the zerg roaming between DEs? For someone who's supposedly been about options from the start.. this is an interesting way they have been taking the game with patches.

Hey all, it is my fault the updates to those 3 dungeon chains did not get into to the notes. There is a lot going on right now and as we establish our patch process sometimes things will slip through the cracks. I wanted to shed some light on the dungeon speed clear stuff as well. You should not see any diminished returns unless you.
1) Run the same exact chain over twice in a row
2) Complete multiple dungeons in 30 minutes or less each.
We also reduced the rewards of completing story mode, once you have already completed it, because the rewards for story mode were never intended to be a high as they were.
At this time, dungeons should one of the most efficient ways to level and get gold, and it is not our intention to make them feel like a grind. This is a very large game, and we have a lot of people playing it in many different ways. Right now we are working hard to make sure there are not any ways for players to circumvent the normal rewards in the game and then we will be able to look at the actual rewards and make sure they require a reasonable amount of investment.
Dungeons are meant to be difficult and we will continue to update them to try and reach a point where the time invested to XP/Gold/Tokens is similar for each dungeon. Some right now are just too easy to complete while others may be too hard. Moving forward we will try and post more clear change notes for those dungeons we do fix.
Thanks for your feedback, we really appreciate your desire to help us keep improving on the game.
Jon

On September 19 2012 03:32 oZii wrote:
K official response

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/dungeons/Dungeon-Updates/first#post152868

On September 19 2012 04:31 Otolia wrote:

If you bought Guild Wars for PvE you made a mistake. It doesn't mean there isn't PvE but the game was always about PvP and WvW.

On September 19 2012 05:12 Esoterikk wrote:


Yet there's no paid tournaments, no ladder system, no MMR, no private servers, barely working tournament rewards, no real community building tool.

The PvP in this game is just as lacking in features as the PvE, the PvP however is just more fun as a standalone,

On September 19 2012 03:52 Ryuu314 wrote:
Something a lot of people seem to not understand.

Dungeon rewards have ONLY been nerfed in terms of gold and experience. They have not touched token rewards in the slightest. Grinding dungeons for the armor/weapons/gifts will take the SAME exact time as before. ANet intended dungeon grinding to be for the tokens, NOT for the easy gold/exp, which is the only thing they hit.

Chests grant at least 2 blues, which for level 80s will sell for 80~99 copper each. Sometimes you'll get greens, which go for 1.2s+ easily. Sometimes you'll get really lucky and get rares or even exotics (very unlikely but it can happen). Same deal for mobs. Which means, with 3 chests, you're guaranteed ~5 silver if you're the unluckiest bastard alive with no MF. Then you have to add the completion reward, which will still give a decent chunk of silver even after the nerf. Repairing for level 80 exotic gear costs slightly over 1.5s each piece. So unless you're getting defeated 7+ times per run, you will at the very least break even. If you're getting defeated 7+ times per run you're probably doing it wrong and should rethink your strategy.

If you're trying to make money, don't grind. That's inefficient. The absolute fastest way to make money is to play the Trading Post.

Some WvW matches are absolutely borked right now due to free server transfers. Guilds can transfer to "shitty" worlds to stomp bads. They can also get spies and such to counter enemy zergs These problems should go away pretty quickly once you can no longer transfer worlds for free. What I don't understand was why Anet released world rankings before locking down world transfers.

On September 19 2012 09:26 LaNague wrote:
well your borther has a serious problem since they also needed his email account,

On September 19 2012 03:04 Veldril wrote:


They did not say there will be "absolutely no farming" in the game, they said you don't have to farm to stay competitive with other players because the gears at max level have relatively similar stat and no big jump up like in the tier system. Farming is there but mostly for better looking armors, like in GW1. The best armor in GW1 were also extremely hard to get and require a lot of farming.

On September 19 2012 09:50 Infernal_dream wrote:


Most games require you to login with an email account. Doesn't mean they know or give one fuck about getting into it.

On September 19 2012 10:27 LaNague wrote:


GW2 requires you to certify your onwership via email if you log in from a different IP network.

On September 19 2012 11:35 Zooper31 wrote:


You're post added nothing to our discussion as we were alrdy aware of him being on the enemy team.

So ya. Just saying ANet can't ban him atm for anything he's doing because the stuff that may be against the ToS he's not doing it in the game where they can record/track it (on skype/TS, voip programs etc)

Sure he may be a jackass but all this is gonna stop when free transfers end, unless he wants to pay constantly just to spy on enemy teams.

Atm just go with the flow and let ANet know they messed up with WvW atm and wait for them to fix it.

On September 19 2012 11:48 Parnage wrote:
On a more less serious note, anyone on a server where Malchor's Leap Skill point is actually working? The one in front of Bayt Fallahin interest point. It's the last thing I need for world completion and it's bugged on Northern shiverpeaks T_T;