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Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
September 20 2012 07:30 GMT
#6221
On September 20 2012 16:22 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 16:13 AnomalySC2 wrote:
What Necros are amazing in both pve and pvp. Highly recommend a pet build for s pvp, high dmg and survivability and a decent amount of control. Pve you can do whatever you want, really.


Don't troll please.

MM build is the worst of all the builds for Necro because the A.I for minions are broken.


Yeah I rolled a necro for a little while in spvp and couldn't believe how retarded the pets were. Like the dev slammed his face into the keyboard for their AI and then ended it. And since they rely on DoT damage I wouldn't think they're the best for pve either.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-20 07:36:40
September 20 2012 07:35 GMT
#6222
On September 20 2012 16:22 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 16:13 AnomalySC2 wrote:
What Necros are amazing in both pve and pvp. Highly recommend a pet build for s pvp, high dmg and survivability and a decent amount of control. Pve you can do whatever you want, really.


Don't troll please.

MM build is the worst of all the builds for Necro because the A.I for minions are broken.


Heh, the ai can be a bit annoying at times but I still have no problems cleaning house. You're almost completely unkillable if you play it right. Honestly I've had more trouble using a 'not-pet' build than anything else.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-20 07:50:29
September 20 2012 07:46 GMT
#6223
On September 20 2012 16:35 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 16:22 FakeDeath wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:13 AnomalySC2 wrote:
What Necros are amazing in both pve and pvp. Highly recommend a pet build for s pvp, high dmg and survivability and a decent amount of control. Pve you can do whatever you want, really.


Don't troll please.

MM build is the worst of all the builds for Necro because the A.I for minions are broken.


Heh, the ai can be a bit annoying at times but I still have no problems cleaning house. You're almost completely unkillable if you play it right. Honestly I've had more trouble using a 'not-pet' build than anything else.


Are you talking about PvP or PvE now?

FYI, condition or power build>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MM Build.

MM build is weak if the minion A.I is horrendous.

Don't say the A.I is annoying.It is not annoying.It's broken.
This is a fact.
Play your best
Teliko
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
September 20 2012 08:46 GMT
#6224
While MM necro is completely not an option for now, I disagree that you shouldn't pick necro at all. I leveled pretty easily and faster than mates I was playing with who were thief/warr/mes/engi/ranger using this heavy AoE condition build. I was doing lv49 story quests by about lv30 without any issues. The golem is really just there as a failsafe tank in case there were ranged enemies which would literally do 60% of my health in one shot. Stopped doing the story after that because it took a year to kill anything because of being so underleveled, but the XP was ridiculous. Anything in my own level range would die in the one rotation.

Basic rotation would be pull one of the tankier mobs with Blood is Power, followed by Deathly Swarm to transfer the extra bleeds, Enfeebling Blood next as these bleeds are the second longest of the rotation, then Grasping Dead, weapon swap to staff and use your Mark of Blood, then cast epidemic, move in to the centre of your pull and drop Well of Suffering, then enter Death Shroud and Life Transfer. Once life transfer ends, everything should be dead. If not, just swap back to Scepter/Dagger and use another Grasping Dead as it'll be off CD.
Add a drop of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing at it.
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
September 20 2012 12:07 GMT
#6225
Level faster than a Warr?... Cmon now
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 20 2012 13:49 GMT
#6226
necro is just fine in pve since it doesnt matter at all if its one or 5 mobs.

and condition damage doesnt take THAT long to kill something, the bleeds duration is only 3 seconds, so its not like it takes 10 seconds longer to kill a mob compared to a direct damage class.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-20 15:16:21
September 20 2012 15:14 GMT
#6227
On September 20 2012 22:49 LaNague wrote:
necro is just fine in pve since it doesnt matter at all if its one or 5 mobs.

and condition damage doesnt take THAT long to kill something, the bleeds duration is only 3 seconds, so its not like it takes 10 seconds longer to kill a mob compared to a direct damage class.


Yes it takes quite some time for the bleed to kill them not to mention tons of duration trait on dots are broken.
I was talking in comparison of Necro PvE against Warrior PvE.

The guy above saying necro leveling PvE faster than warrior clearly haven't seen a competent warrior wiping mobs that are higher level than the warrior himself in a matter of seconds.

What's that spinning skill that they use? Their Hundred Blade are also quite strong.
Play your best
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 20 2012 15:41 GMT
#6228
as i said, bleed lasts about 3 seconds, so at the most it takes 3 more seconds to kill with conditions than with direct damage.


anyways, the discussion is fruitless because leveling is not done by grinding mobs.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
September 20 2012 15:58 GMT
#6229
On September 21 2012 00:14 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 22:49 LaNague wrote:
necro is just fine in pve since it doesnt matter at all if its one or 5 mobs.

and condition damage doesnt take THAT long to kill something, the bleeds duration is only 3 seconds, so its not like it takes 10 seconds longer to kill a mob compared to a direct damage class.


Yes it takes quite some time for the bleed to kill them not to mention tons of duration trait on dots are broken.
I was talking in comparison of Necro PvE against Warrior PvE.

The guy above saying necro leveling PvE faster than warrior clearly haven't seen a competent warrior wiping mobs that are higher level than the warrior himself in a matter of seconds.

What's that spinning skill that they use? Their Hundred Blade are also quite strong.


Yup, i'd think whirlwhind + hundred blades would clear the fuck out of everything before it could even aggro on you.
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1692 Posts
September 20 2012 18:47 GMT
#6230
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
September 21 2012 12:36 GMT
#6231
What is the longest duration bleed there is? Some time ago I had a 30-40 second damage condition on me and I could've sworn it was bleed.
oZii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1198 Posts
September 21 2012 13:21 GMT
#6232
If anyone is interested in joining a guild on Ehmry that does a few more things together PM me. I'll still stay TLRR fo life!!! Just the guild I found its much easier to get parties together for dungeons and there are alot of active members I was really surprised how many. The commander for WvW of the guild is a Master Zerg player so thats cool actually talked about TL alot.

So if anyone is interested shoot me a pm or Tell in game.
Teliko
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 13:39:49
September 21 2012 13:38 GMT
#6233
On September 21 2012 21:36 kuresuti wrote:
What is the longest duration bleed there is? Some time ago I had a 30-40 second damage condition on me and I could've sworn it was bleed.

Blood is Power

With traits it can become 36 seconds.
Add a drop of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing at it.
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
September 21 2012 16:54 GMT
#6234
Has anyone been able to do the experience survivor monthly achivement ?
Mine is stuck at 46,055 / 50,000 I just did a story quest + some events, the quest itself was 10,000 xp but it wont move from the 46k xp ever ...
nennx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
September 21 2012 16:57 GMT
#6235
pretty sure it restarts after you get a previous achievement

basically you'd need to get 75k exp to get the 25k+50k achievement without dying. or you could get 25k, then die, then get 50k, etc. i never noticed the bar moving either
Sup
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
September 21 2012 16:57 GMT
#6236
Apparently you have to not change maps or something for that achievement? I dunno, I ended up randomly completing it at some point.
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Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
September 21 2012 17:17 GMT
#6237
On September 22 2012 01:54 noD wrote:
Has anyone been able to do the experience survivor monthly achivement ?
Mine is stuck at 46,055 / 50,000 I just did a story quest + some events, the quest itself was 10,000 xp but it wont move from the 46k xp ever ...


46k is your current highest xp in one sitting. It doesn't reset if you fail, it only shows your 'highscore' on that one. So right now, you might be only at 30k.
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
September 21 2012 17:19 GMT
#6238
On September 22 2012 02:17 Valenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 01:54 noD wrote:
Has anyone been able to do the experience survivor monthly achivement ?
Mine is stuck at 46,055 / 50,000 I just did a story quest + some events, the quest itself was 10,000 xp but it wont move from the 46k xp ever ...


46k is your current highest xp in one sitting. It doesn't reset if you fail, it only shows your 'highscore' on that one. So right now, you might be only at 30k.


Can I just buy like 400 copper and get 50k crafting ?
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
September 21 2012 17:22 GMT
#6239
On September 21 2012 22:21 oZii wrote:
If anyone is interested in joining a guild on Ehmry that does a few more things together PM me. I'll still stay TLRR fo life!!! Just the guild I found its much easier to get parties together for dungeons and there are alot of active members I was really surprised how many. The commander for WvW of the guild is a Master Zerg player so thats cool actually talked about TL alot.

So if anyone is interested shoot me a pm or Tell in game.


What is your in game name right now? I would love to get an invite to an active guild.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 21 2012 17:40 GMT
#6240
oh wait, survivor resets when you log out?


oh man, i was 2k xp away from the goal, but i decided to call it a day.
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