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SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
September 20 2010 19:13 GMT
#721
On September 21 2010 03:55 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 03:35 CultureMisfits wrote:
Someone proposed to trade Jeremy Maclin for my Donovan McNabb. Should I go for it? I already have Drew Brees as a my 1st quarterback and I am kind of weak at WR.
At WR, I have Anquan Boldin, Marques Colston, Malcolm Floyd, Mario Manningham, and Hines Ward.
He has Jay Cutler and Matt Cassel as his 2 qbs.
What should i do>


Try to get more out of the deal. Maclin for McNabb straight up is a terrible deal, ESPECIALLY after the game McNabb had. Maclin adds like... nothing to your team.

Floyd will likely develop into SD's #1 WR. Boldin is the #1 in Baltimore, and there's no reason to freak out, after they played two tough teams, and think that his season won't turn around (although Flacco does suck a rather large dick).

You have the upper hand in this deal, absolutely. Seriously... Maclin is the #2 on a team that can't pass, which makes him equivalent to a number 4.
]


Thanks, I figured it was a garbage deal. Well he has Jennings, Randy Moss, Santana Moss, Johnny Knox as his other WR's. What would be a fair trade for Mcnabb?
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
September 20 2010 19:27 GMT
#722
On September 21 2010 04:13 CultureMisfits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 03:55 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
On September 21 2010 03:35 CultureMisfits wrote:
Someone proposed to trade Jeremy Maclin for my Donovan McNabb. Should I go for it? I already have Drew Brees as a my 1st quarterback and I am kind of weak at WR.
At WR, I have Anquan Boldin, Marques Colston, Malcolm Floyd, Mario Manningham, and Hines Ward.
He has Jay Cutler and Matt Cassel as his 2 qbs.
What should i do>


Try to get more out of the deal. Maclin for McNabb straight up is a terrible deal, ESPECIALLY after the game McNabb had. Maclin adds like... nothing to your team.

Floyd will likely develop into SD's #1 WR. Boldin is the #1 in Baltimore, and there's no reason to freak out, after they played two tough teams, and think that his season won't turn around (although Flacco does suck a rather large dick).

You have the upper hand in this deal, absolutely. Seriously... Maclin is the #2 on a team that can't pass, which makes him equivalent to a number 4.
]


Thanks, I figured it was a garbage deal. Well he has Jennings, Randy Moss, Santana Moss, Johnny Knox as his other WR's. What would be a fair trade for Mcnabb?


It depends on your scoring system, and positions played. With Cutler as his #1, I'm not really sure why he wants McNabb anyway.

S. Moss and Knox are worthless for fantasy, as anything more than a #3 WR, because their play is so inconsistent. So really, he only has two WR's worth trading for, Jennings and Moss. You won't get either of them straight up, unless he REALLY wants McNabb. Personally, unless you can get Randy Moss, I wouldn't go for any of his WR's. They don't add enough to your team. I would look elsewhere for a trade... You could try a package deal, if he's weak at HB and you're really strong there, and package your #3 HB and McNabb for Moss, see if he goes for it and wait for a counter offer.

Any trade I've ever pulled off ended up going back and forth like four or five times before we came to an agreement. The idea is, though, to give up as little for as much as possible. You don't ever want to take a loss to any of your strong positions, otherwise you don't gain anything. Trades are to strengthen a weak point, while maintaining strength elsewhere. And this week is the best week you'll get to move McNabb, I think. Look elsewhere if you have to, and don't be afraid of aiming too high, the worst they can do is reject the trade.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
September 20 2010 19:30 GMT
#723
Hey guys, got a fantasy question:
Here's my current roster:
QB: Matt Schaub, Eli Manning, Matt Ryan
WR: Roddy White, Ochocinco
RB: MJD, Ray Rice, Arian Foster, CJ Spiller, Jahvid Best, Knowshon Moreno
TE: Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez
K: Kaeding
DEF: Eagles

I feel okay about my QB situation. I'll start two out of the three based on good matchups, a strategy which worked great this week because I played Schaub and Ryan, who netted me a combined 50 or so points.

Antonio Gates is not disappointing at TE. Kaeding's doing fine, and I can't expect too much out of a defense, so I'm alright with Philadelphia.

Here are the problems:
1.) I am overloaded at RB, and very thin at WR (only two)
2.) My supposed stud RBs, MJD and Ray Rice, aren't doing shit. Meanwhile, I've benched Jahvid Best for weeks 1 and 2.

I picked up Foster off of waiver wires, and he did alright in week 2. CJ Spiller is sucking ass, and I'm trying to drop him to pick up Demaryius Thomas. Waiver hasn't gone through yet. Is there a good trade that you guys recommend? I could always trade two RBs for a very good WR or something. Should I hang on to Tony Gonzalez? All I know is that I'm not getting nearly enough points from the RB and WR positions.
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 19:37:57
September 20 2010 19:33 GMT
#724
Is that a four team league or something? Jesus, I've never seen such a stacked roster. MJD was like #3 or #4 overall, and Ray Rice was the pick right after him in most leagues. Wtf?

Your HB's will perform, though. No need to freak out there. Maybe you can get Thomas off waivers, that might help... If I were going to trade, I'd try Knowshon + Foster for a WR. Best is clearly the weapon of choice in Detroit.

On a side note about my Vick post... isn't it just like Vick fans to ignore anything people have to say about him, and instead remain steady in their ignorance? Southlight had legit reasons for liking him, and didn't even really say he was a great QB, just that he was a unique player that could have been something great, but he didn't feel he was afforded enough opportunity.

These people are like "That's too much to read," and "you sound mad more than anything... keeping up with his stats like that." Wtf kind of argument is that second one? What kind of decent football fan doesn't keep up with statistics? Ugh, you try to educate people on something and they'd rather be ignorant. How awful... sadly, this doesn't apply specifically to sports.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32112 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 20:10:52
September 20 2010 20:07 GMT
#725
Maclin for McNabb is terrible. Always think of fantasy trades in terms of touches and you can never go wrong.

WR will average you, what, 4-5 per game?? McNabb gets at least 30 passing opportunities and a few runs a game. Unless you get a top 5 WR for your middle of the road QB, or unless your depth chart is like... Peyton, Schaub, Eli, you never ever do a trade like that, even if you have absolutely no use for that QB. It's a lateral move for you at best, and it only serves to improve him.

Flacco might be my pick for biggest disappointment thus far, at least for QBs. I didn't catch much yesterday, but fuck did he look like ass in week one. Overthrew at least like 5-6 balls terribly. He also shows flashes of really nice plays too (he hit Boldin on what looked like a fairly simple 15 yarder, but he just showed smooth footwork in avoiding the rush and hitting him in the hands). I really thought he'd emerage as a top 10 guy.

On September 21 2010 04:33 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
These people are like "That's too much to read," and "you sound mad more than anything... keeping up with his stats like that." Wtf kind of argument is that second one? What kind of decent football fan doesn't keep up with statistics? Ugh, you try to educate people on something and they'd rather be ignorant. How awful... sadly, this doesn't apply specifically to sports.


The worst is that I hear all these idiotic arguments all the time, and they're from the douchebags I play fantasy with, not casual fans. I can show all the stats I want in the world to support my argument, but motherfuckers will cling to whatever preconceived notion they have of a player, no matter what.
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
September 20 2010 20:27 GMT
#726
On September 21 2010 05:07 Hawk wrote:
Maclin for McNabb is terrible. Always think of fantasy trades in terms of touches and you can never go wrong.

WR will average you, what, 4-5 per game?? McNabb gets at least 30 passing opportunities and a few runs a game. Unless you get a top 5 WR for your middle of the road QB, or unless your depth chart is like... Peyton, Schaub, Eli, you never ever do a trade like that, even if you have absolutely no use for that QB. It's a lateral move for you at best, and it only serves to improve him.

Flacco might be my pick for biggest disappointment thus far, at least for QBs. I didn't catch much yesterday, but fuck did he look like ass in week one. Overthrew at least like 5-6 balls terribly. He also shows flashes of really nice plays too (he hit Boldin on what looked like a fairly simple 15 yarder, but he just showed smooth footwork in avoiding the rush and hitting him in the hands). I really thought he'd emerage as a top 10 guy.

Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 04:33 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
These people are like "That's too much to read," and "you sound mad more than anything... keeping up with his stats like that." Wtf kind of argument is that second one? What kind of decent football fan doesn't keep up with statistics? Ugh, you try to educate people on something and they'd rather be ignorant. How awful... sadly, this doesn't apply specifically to sports.


The worst is that I hear all these idiotic arguments all the time, and they're from the douchebags I play fantasy with, not casual fans. I can show all the stats I want in the world to support my argument, but motherfuckers will cling to whatever preconceived notion they have of a player, no matter what.


Agreed on that bottom part.

Flacco is a combine kid. I've been saying this since he came out. He has a big arm, and was blown up by the combine. He was a guy who couldn't hack it in D!, then when he went down to D2. he didn't go and destroy like he should have, and somehow emerged as a first round pick. That's absurd. He'll never be more than a middle of the pack QB with a huge arm.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32112 Posts
September 20 2010 20:41 GMT
#727
Yeah, I do remember you having almost as much of a boner against Flacco as I do for Vick and Favre, ahah.

I really think this is a show me year for him. They have all the weapons and the line there this year. The one thing that I did notice is that he got shit calls from the o-coord several times... a couple of like third and 4 or so situations where every receiver was 15 yards downfield and they had the TE/RB in on protection. As much as he did shit decisions, who the fuck calls that??

The Giants were doing the same to Eli. And that was even worse, because it was obvious to everyone that their tackles were getting raaaaaaaaaaaaapeeeeeed by Freeny/Mathis. I haven't seen something like that in a while, jesus. Dheil lost a major step. That Giant line has gone to shit.
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
September 20 2010 22:26 GMT
#728
my poor giants What a disappointing game. Its not that they lost but how embarrassing it was..
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
September 20 2010 23:26 GMT
#729
Freeney and Mathis can do that to about anyone. I was thinking about how imba DE's are. Like, the top DE vs the top LT 1v1, the DE almost always wins. You put a guy like Freeney against Ryan Clady, or Joe Thomas, somehow Freeney wins. It's crazy, because they pay all this money for LT's, and then they STILL have to help them out, heh. Certainly, Freeney, Peppers, Allen, etc all lose from time to time, even in 1v1 situations, but it's pretty incredible how often these guys win their 1v1 match ups.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
September 20 2010 23:28 GMT
#730
Hawk, ready for your 49ers to get lit up? But I am hoping Davis puts up a 70 yard / 1 TD performance. Just enough for me to win my one of my matchups and to hold the lead in another one.
WGT<3. Former CL/NW head admin.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 20 2010 23:29 GMT
#731
It's not really that surprising if you think about it. The LT has to play reactive in pass defense, and it's easier to run forward than it is to backpedal while making sure you have enough balance forward.
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Rho_
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States971 Posts
September 20 2010 23:36 GMT
#732
Somehow my Chiefs are 2-0! Kinda crazy, but I'm not complaining. Hopefully the luck keeps up.
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
September 21 2010 00:55 GMT
#733
Damn, this is not looking good for my fantasy team. Already Drew Brees has 7 points. SF better give them LONG fields for the rest of the game.

SF is looking pathetic so far.

And, while I'm aware that the NFL needs advertising dollars.. is it really necessary to have a commercial after the PAT/FG (last play of the drive), then the kickoff, then another set of commercials. Wtf? Seriously, that's so goddamn annoying.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 21 2010 00:58 GMT
#734
I'm screwed if Frank Gore scores 70 points.
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
September 21 2010 01:06 GMT
#735
Our scoring is such that 52 points is not that hard to come by. For reference, Vick scored 29 for me yesterday. Two players can easily get that many points, and I've seen these kinds of leads evaporate against big time players before.

That said, I actually had to mute my TV just now. I can't stand these morons going on about the fucking Heisman trophy. They act as if MNF is their time to talk about whatever current topic there is in sports, and everything else but the fucking game. No one gives a flying fuck about your opinions on current events, shut the fuck up and call the game. I wish they'd all get laryngitis. Further, I wish the people at ESPN would learn how to produce a show well, because this channel fucking blows. The only thing it's good for are casual sports fans (i.e. idiots who have no clue) to feel adequate in sports conversation.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 01:12:46
September 21 2010 01:11 GMT
#736
On September 21 2010 09:55 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
And, while I'm aware that the NFL needs advertising dollars.. is it really necessary to have a commercial after the PAT/FG (last play of the drive), then the kickoff, then another set of commercials. Wtf? Seriously, that's so goddamn annoying.

That's been the case for as long as I can remember though. It isn't like it's a recent development.
Uff Da
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 01:37:25
September 21 2010 01:36 GMT
#737
On September 21 2010 10:11 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 09:55 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
And, while I'm aware that the NFL needs advertising dollars.. is it really necessary to have a commercial after the PAT/FG (last play of the drive), then the kickoff, then another set of commercials. Wtf? Seriously, that's so goddamn annoying.

That's been the case for as long as I can remember though. It isn't like it's a recent development.


I didn't say it was. I was just complaining about it, because it's very annoying.

SF looking solid after a rough start to the game. They're determined to make NO work for it today.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Augury
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States758 Posts
September 21 2010 02:14 GMT
#738
I thought the 49ers signed westbrook this offseason? Why are they only using him in retarded wildcat formations?

So dumb @@

Players are playing well after the mess up early on though, a lot closer than I would have expected
Rho_
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States971 Posts
September 21 2010 02:17 GMT
#739
Westbrook is so injury prone I doubt they want to risk losing him. Dude has serious concussion issues.
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
September 21 2010 02:29 GMT
#740
Gore is as good, or better than Westy in every way, pretty much.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
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