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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 11 2015 11:13 GMT
#19521
wasn't D2 just baal runs and gambling in the end game ? That would be Grifts, with less variety. If you are talking about things you can do that aren't the optimal way, D3 beats the hell out of D2 in terms of variety. But only since D3 gets so much post game support. D2 got some insane patches too, though.
But nothing of that level that D3 is getting. Has something to do with the new generation of gamers though. They want new stuff unimportant of what it does or how much it costs.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21888 Posts
August 11 2015 11:21 GMT
#19522
Without GRifts there is no incentive to upgrade your gear other then for the sake of it. There is no goal once you have completed the campaign. GRifts gives you a thing to work towards constantly.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-11 12:03:48
August 11 2015 11:33 GMT
#19523
For me D2 was all about PVP, and yes it wasnt perfect, but it worked. Especially after the sinergy patch, create new builds, farm the items, etc...

My firedruid was hilarious, it was awful in theory but it did so much damage, especially with Hurricane.

Diablo 3 could easily be that for me with a better pvp
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
August 11 2015 12:14 GMT
#19524
On August 11 2015 19:40 rob.au wrote:
I don't understand how greater rifts were a good idea to begin with. Seems to me like the community was just dying for anything so they embraced greater rifts. Blizzard were happy because it was one of the easiest content additions they could have done.

It seems like a pretty good engine, good classes, reasonable maps, but at the end of the day 99% of the game is just played on the rifts maps using a few builds. D2 felt like it had a lot more variety in every aspect.

A lot of people were calling for random dungeons with unlimited difficulty and leader boards. I think GRs is a pretty neat idea in that light.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4178 Posts
August 12 2015 00:36 GMT
#19525
On August 11 2015 19:40 rob.au wrote:
I don't understand how greater rifts were a good idea to begin with. Seems to me like the community was just dying for anything so they embraced greater rifts. Blizzard were happy because it was one of the easiest content additions they could have done.

It seems like a pretty good engine, good classes, reasonable maps, but at the end of the day 99% of the game is just played on the rifts maps using a few builds. D2 felt like it had a lot more variety in every aspect.

I don't see how Greater Rifts are bad. It's something that someone can always push for. There's not just a wall of like Super Boss X, and once you beat that Boss, everything is just downhill from there.

It's something that you always push for to see where you are as a player, granted theres RNG involved, but that's Diablo.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
August 12 2015 00:42 GMT
#19526
GRIFT will be a bit more interesting again I hope with the new balance tuning. Damage scales differently, some tweaks to certain abilities and no more perm CC.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
August 12 2015 00:46 GMT
#19527
Hardcore GRifts are going to be absurdly fun. Lack of perma cc means that the people that get the highest are always playing on a knife edge.
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
August 14 2015 20:14 GMT
#19528
When is this actually coming out? Feel like i waited forever...
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
August 14 2015 20:20 GMT
#19529
On August 15 2015 05:14 unkkz wrote:
When is this actually coming out? Feel like i waited forever...

2 weeks i think
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
August 14 2015 20:21 GMT
#19530
Season 3 has lasted foreeever, especially compared to Season 2 anyways.

But just two more weeks to go!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/19824753/first-look-season-4-8-11-2015
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
August 14 2015 22:04 GMT
#19531
Season starts in exactly 2 weeks. I'm excited for the new Sader and Monk sets. I was hoping for a viable WD set besides going mass summon for damage, but it doesn't seem very likely from what I've seen on PTR.
hotcream
Profile Joined August 2015
27 Posts
August 15 2015 01:24 GMT
#19532
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-18 19:15:52
August 18 2015 19:15 GMT
#19533
i havent played in a while, what would be a good char for ladder S4 and what would be a good char to play nonladder so that i can play it now allready.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
August 18 2015 20:21 GMT
#19534
On August 19 2015 04:15 LaNague wrote:
i havent played in a while, what would be a good char for ladder S4 and what would be a good char to play nonladder so that i can play it now allready.



WW Barb
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
August 18 2015 20:38 GMT
#19535
On August 19 2015 05:21 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 04:15 LaNague wrote:
i havent played in a while, what would be a good char for ladder S4 and what would be a good char to play nonladder so that i can play it now allready.



WW Barb

other classes seem to get a new OP skill every season, but barbs have always used whirl right? Though its a really fun skill
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
August 18 2015 20:43 GMT
#19536
Saders and WDs are getting quite a bit next season I believe. Wiz archon set is getting a little love, and monks getting a seven sided strike set. Not sure about DH, and I think barbs are getting very little? Correct me if I'm wrong. Crusaders and WDs look to be fun next season though, no idea about how good, but lots of changes if you're looking for something fresh after taking a few months off.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
August 18 2015 20:45 GMT
#19537
On August 19 2015 05:38 Assault_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 05:21 Terranasaur wrote:
On August 19 2015 04:15 LaNague wrote:
i havent played in a while, what would be a good char for ladder S4 and what would be a good char to play nonladder so that i can play it now allready.



WW Barb

other classes seem to get a new OP skill every season, but barbs have always used whirl right? Though its a really fun skill

They used WW before RoS came out, but then it was bad until they added a new set last season.
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 18 2015 21:13 GMT
#19538
let me rephrase, which would be a good char to level now because the good builds dont need season 4 exclusive items.


and which char would be good to hold off on because the good builds require the season specific item :D



Does Barb need the seasonal item? It would be perfect for me to play now because i never played one and would have to level from scratch.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 18 2015 21:30 GMT
#19539
On August 19 2015 05:38 Assault_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 05:21 Terranasaur wrote:
On August 19 2015 04:15 LaNague wrote:
i havent played in a while, what would be a good char for ladder S4 and what would be a good char to play nonladder so that i can play it now allready.



WW Barb

other classes seem to get a new OP skill every season, but barbs have always used whirl right? Though its a really fun skill

charge was popular before ww got buffed.
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
August 18 2015 23:27 GMT
#19540
On August 19 2015 05:43 Duka08 wrote:
Saders and WDs are getting quite a bit next season I believe. Wiz archon set is getting a little love, and monks getting a seven sided strike set. Not sure about DH, and I think barbs are getting very little? Correct me if I'm wrong. Crusaders and WDs look to be fun next season though, no idea about how good, but lots of changes if you're looking for something fresh after taking a few months off.

The new WD sets suck though. Carnevil/pet spam builds are still going to be the best for solo/damage. The new sets are just super clunky and kinda mediocre.

Wiz Archon set is going to be strong once you get all the pieces including specific legendaries for belt/helm/bracers.

Barbs and DH's aren't getting anything because they got new sets last season, but the old Leap/EQ set for Barbs is supposedly going to get a rework for season 5.

Saders are getting a new set that basically makes them Captain America and Thors illegitimate love child.

Biggest change in the season isn't the new sets or Kanai's Cube, but the massive CC changes that are going to make things interesting for pushing Greater Rifts in groups since perma-CC will no longer be a thing. This season may be the most interesting one weve had with all the massive changes happening.
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