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Cascade
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crms
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andyrau
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Destructicon
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So I binge on Diablo 3 every once in a while, especially in between seasons when new toys are added. I usually like to have once char per spec, so far I have a Marauder Demon Hunter, Raekor Barb, Immortal King Barb, Meteor Wizard and Roland Crusader, I have a couple of questions. First for Roland, what is the best weapon? I had a normal Ashbringer drop yesterday and I was wondering if a Ancient Ashbringer wouldn't be able even better if you synergize it with holy damage. I mean I suspect a ancient furance is probably still better but Ashbringer is fun. Secondly, I have a monk already and I have some pieces of Inna, some of Thousand Storms and Sunwuko. I was considering making a cold spec char so, which of these specs synergizes best with Rimeheart? Third, I read someone say that a cold spec wizard with Rimeheart won't work, but I wanted to inquire if the new magnus opus set speced to cold, with the new frost gem and maybe frostburn gauntlets can't work. | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On April 11 2015 21:05 SixStrings wrote: Ashbringer? Seriously? Oo Wow, quality post. He was asking for advice, you could at least elaborate. Personally I have not touched D3 since RoS came out but for whatever reason decided to reroll a Wiz for S3 (might also take a spin with WD in Hardcore). Adventure Mode is pretty sweet, if that had existed at release I probably would have stuck with this game much more. Looking forward to dabbling with the rest of this season. | ||
Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
On April 11 2015 19:53 Destructicon wrote: First for Roland, what is the best weapon? I had a normal Ashbringer drop yesterday and I was wondering if a Ancient Ashbringer wouldn't be able even better if you synergize it with holy damage. I mean I suspect a ancient furance is probably still better but Ashbringer is fun. Third, I read someone say that a cold spec wizard with Rimeheart won't work, but I wanted to inquire if the new magnus opus set speced to cold, with the new frost gem and maybe frostburn gauntlets can't work. For just killing things in normal rifts Ashbringer might be better than Furnace for Rolands because of its proc, but if you are doing a greater rift and you don't get the perfect timing on the proc before the rift guardian appears you're screwed and missing a huge chunk of damage that you'd get from the damage to elites from Furnace. Ashbringer will be that wep that people fishing for the perfect rift will use to get #1 leaderboards with a lucky proc to kill the rift guardian really fast. Furnace will probably be better for the average person but then again the average person won't find a Furnace anyway. Ashbringer is most likely better than any other wep for Rolands though, since I don't think there's a build specific one for it. As far as Rimeheart for cold spec wiz, it can work but wouldn't be optimal by any means. The only things a wiz has that actually freezes are magic missile with glacial spike, frost nova, and the cold runed blizzard. None of those fit into a build with the magnus opus set at all: there's just no room for it all. | ||
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Destructicon
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Edit: Also what about Rimeheart Monk, can it work and how far can it push a greater rift? | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
I got D3 for free, played it through once, was OK, liked the game, but the idea of playing through nightmare/hell/inferno did not interest me, and real money auction house killed my last bits of enthusiasm, so I dropped it. A few days ago I downloaded it again, and I saw these paragon levels which I think are pretty cool, though I'm not sure if I'd grind days just to raise my paragon levels. Anyway, I read it from all kinds of sources that RoS brought enjoyable late game, and I'm wondering how good is it really. If it means "get this gear, these exact skill/rune combinations, grind for hours and you get a cool item" then it doesn't sound fun to me, nothing against those who might enjoy it. I like grinding for items, but if it means I have to always abuse overpowered 1-3 skill/passive skill combinations, than it sounds more like a chore. And how about partying? Once I reached lvl 70, can I reliably get into some "boss runs", or am I gonna get kicked asap for not knowing the l33t strategies (aka being a noob), or are people mainly just solo grinding? The times I enjoyed D2 online the most is when I could party with low level people and see all the classes working together. It was so fun! Also, will the playthrough of Diablo 3 will be any different with RoS, than back then? Crusader is definitely tempting, I've always been a paladin guy, but that alone does not worth 20 euros. | ||
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Destructicon
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On April 12 2015 02:25 Volband wrote: Hello folks, I'd like you to convince me that RoS is worth my time and money! I got D3 for free, played it through once, was OK, liked the game, but the idea of playing through nightmare/hell/inferno did not interest me, and real money auction house killed my last bits of enthusiasm, so I dropped it. A few days ago I downloaded it again, and I saw these paragon levels which I think are pretty cool, though I'm not sure if I'd grind days just to raise my paragon levels. Anyway, I read it from all kinds of sources that RoS brought enjoyable late game, and I'm wondering how good is it really. If it means "get this gear, these exact skill/rune combinations, grind for hours and you get a cool item" then it doesn't sound fun to me, nothing against those who might enjoy it. I like grinding for items, but if it means I have to always abuse overpowered 1-3 skill/passive skill combinations, than it sounds more like a chore. And how about partying? Once I reached lvl 70, can I reliably get into some "boss runs", or am I gonna get kicked asap for not knowing the l33t strategies (aka being a noob), or are people mainly just solo grinding? The times I enjoyed D2 online the most is when I could party with low level people and see all the classes working together. It was so fun! Also, will the playthrough of Diablo 3 will be any different with RoS, than back then? Crusader is definitely tempting, I've always been a paladin guy, but that alone does not worth 20 euros. Ok so, to farm legendaries all you have to do is set your difficulty to torment 6 queue up for rifts and then you'll most likely be carried by better geared people for a while until you can build some sets of your own. Now for the items themselves, the answer is yes and no. There are now multiple legendary sets per class that offer different play styles, in essence the legendaries also influence the spec you can roll for. So yes you have choices as far as skills go but once you build a specialized legendary set there won't be much wiggle room outside of it, depends on sets though. Weather that is to your liking or not is up for you to decided. The grouping up once you reach level 70 I already covered, you can do it by changing from story mode to adventure mode and picking the appropriate mode like Bounties (which you run for certain legendaries and for rift keystones), Rifts (which you mostly run for gear) and Greater Rifts (which you run for legendary gems, more legendaries and to improve your legendary gems). Edit: There are a lot of sites that detail optimal builds and you can check them out on the ladderboard, but I suggest you ignore these and just experiment for yourself first, you might find it more fun to discover for yourself what you can put together. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 12 2015 02:25 Volband wrote: Hello folks, I'd like you to convince me that RoS is worth my time and money! I got D3 for free, played it through once, was OK, liked the game, but the idea of playing through nightmare/hell/inferno did not interest me, and real money auction house killed my last bits of enthusiasm, so I dropped it. A few days ago I downloaded it again, and I saw these paragon levels which I think are pretty cool, though I'm not sure if I'd grind days just to raise my paragon levels. Anyway, I read it from all kinds of sources that RoS brought enjoyable late game, and I'm wondering how good is it really. If it means "get this gear, these exact skill/rune combinations, grind for hours and you get a cool item" then it doesn't sound fun to me, nothing against those who might enjoy it. I like grinding for items, but if it means I have to always abuse overpowered 1-3 skill/passive skill combinations, than it sounds more like a chore. And how about partying? Once I reached lvl 70, can I reliably get into some "boss runs", or am I gonna get kicked asap for not knowing the l33t strategies (aka being a noob), or are people mainly just solo grinding? The times I enjoyed D2 online the most is when I could party with low level people and see all the classes working together. It was so fun! Also, will the playthrough of Diablo 3 will be any different with RoS, than back then? Crusader is definitely tempting, I've always been a paladin guy, but that alone does not worth 20 euros. nightmare/hell/inferno is removed. rmah is removed; its bind on equip/or bind on account. paragon levels arent exciting, but do give you the sense of still moving forward after you are a badass already. late game = see how high you can get in greater rifts, which if you are competitive can be fun, but they are a grind. there are still bis items, but i wouldnt say they are overpowered. there is just an order to things and some things work better together. considering a lot of grinding is done at t6, which is low level, you can usually a lot more "underpowered" builds. ros has communitiies for rifts, bounties, greater rifts, ubers, etc. so you can consistently get parties together, except for high level greater rifts; they are not going to let an unoptimized person in. plathrough of diablo is the same as last time, except that they added one act. probably not worth it if you are just doing it for the playthrough. the game is worth 20 euros. | ||
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Gladness
United States59 Posts
On April 12 2015 02:25 Volband wrote: Hello folks, I'd like you to convince me that RoS is worth my time and money! ... Also, will the playthrough of Diablo 3 will be any different with RoS, than back then? Crusader is definitely tempting, I've always been a paladin guy, but that alone does not worth 20 euros. Download the vanilla game and try it out, it's already different. Most of the big changes, like the new loot pacing and skill overhauls, were applied to the base game. You miss out on Crusader and some endgame bells and whistles but nothing vital. By the time you hit 60 you'll know whether or not the expansion is worth the money to you. | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
On April 12 2015 00:28 Tictock wrote: Wow, quality post. He was asking for advice, you could at least elaborate. I didn't mean to be rude, I was just surprised that Ashbringer made it into Diablo. It's a rather prominent item from the WoW lore. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
i'll say though the most frustrating parts of the game are the early leveling and the extreme late game. early on when you do not have your class set, you are basically completely useless. late game grift grinding is mostly trial key farming and fishing for decent rifts. | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
On April 12 2015 10:41 SixStrings wrote: I didn't mean to be rude, I was just surprised that Ashbringer made it into Diablo. It's a rather prominent item from the WoW lore. There's Thunderfury too and it's the coolest looking weapon + proc in the game : D e: found a new nagelring yesterday. It's pretty nice. In my gear the lunatics explode for 30 million if i saw that correctly. Quite a few elite packs went almost 100-0% leaving me with a big smile. Haven't got anything special yet. Out of 20 legendarys yesterday I had 14 rings and 2 follower tokens. Sadly no halo, soj, unity. | ||
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Nihly
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On April 11 2015 08:09 jeeeeohn wrote: Is it just me, or is this game really, really easy? I haven't played since release, never got past act 1. So I rolled up a barb and literally did not take a point of damage after the intro. I bumped it up to hard about midway through act 1, but it's still absurdly easy. Yes, you need to bump up the difficulty more if you want any real challenge. | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
On April 12 2015 16:40 smr wrote: There's Thunderfury too and it's the coolest looking weapon + proc in the game : D e: found a new nagelring yesterday. It's pretty nice. In my gear the lunatics explode for 30 million if i saw that correctly. Quite a few elite packs went almost 100-0% leaving me with a big smile. Haven't got anything special yet. Out of 20 legendarys yesterday I had 14 rings and 2 follower tokens. Sadly no halo, soj, unity. I wish I found follower items at all. My Scoundrel has the all skills one, but I haven't found the invincibility one yet and I'm Paragon 400... | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
On April 12 2015 19:45 SixStrings wrote: I wish I found follower items at all. My Scoundrel has the all skills one, but I haven't found the invincibility one yet and I'm Paragon 400... Both of mine are all skills. Helps a bit as they atleast have good stats and make my followers not die instantly on lower levels I admit. Took a look at the leaderboards. Can't believe how amazing some people'sequipment is already but I guess quite a few run 4man teams with some amount of class-stacking to trade? I'll take it slow in comparison. | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
Took me countles bounty runs last time to get the ring. Lucky season. | ||
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