Diablo III General Discussion - Page 772

On February 13 2013 13:49 Cascade wrote:

As I am waiting for EU to go online, I'm trying to figure out where are the best places to farm for the designs?

The patch notes says that you can get them from
Skeleton King
Spider Queen
Maghda
Zoltun Kulle
Ghom
Cydaea
Rakanoth
Izual
with 5 NV stacks, but that they also drop anywhere, and with 5x the drop chance for designs.... maybe just as well farm act 3 as normal, but add ghom or something at the end of the run?

On February 13 2013 14:00 DODswe4 wrote:
does the bosses drop a specific recipe or is it a random one?

On February 13 2013 13:59 Valiver wrote:


The increased drop rate for plans is for the old stuff, I got several old ones during my runs today, not sure if they apply to the new plans as well but I didn't get any new ones from non-bosses. I did about 25 runs of mp5-6 zoltun kulle. I chose him because if you choose the quest the black soulstone - the soulstone chamber he is right there as soon as you get 5 stacks. I go sewers for 1 or 2 stacks, black canyon mines gives anywhere from 2-4, and I finish it up going to oasis or desolate sands until I've got 5stack and kill ZK. I got 7 plans for a net of maybe 19mil, and 39 demonic essences as well.

On February 13 2013 13:59 Valiver wrote:
The increased drop rate for plans is for the old stuff, I got several old ones during my runs today, not sure if they apply to the new plans as well but I didn't get any new ones from non-bosses. I did about 25 runs of mp5-6 zoltun kulle. I chose him because if you choose the quest the black soulstone - the soulstone chamber he is right there as soon as you get 5 stacks. I go sewers for 1 or 2 stacks, black canyon mines gives anywhere from 2-4, and I finish it up going to oasis or desolate sands until I've got 5stack and kill ZK. I got 7 plans for a net of maybe 19mil, and 39 demonic essences as well.

On February 13 2013 13:57 TheRabidDeer wrote:
For farming designs, I think the fastest is to do arreat crater 2 -> all the way through to rakanosh.

You can get 5 stacks easily before cydaea and rakanosh is only like 5 minutes after her.

On February 13 2013 14:16 TheRabidDeer wrote:

If you want to farm plans I dont think you can do better than cydaea/rakanoth (for some reason I have gotten 3 plans to drop off the first boss in act 4 as well). Crater 2-> tower 1 -> tower 2 -> azmodan -> rakanoth like 2 minutes away. 2 bosses with increased drop chance within minutes.

On February 13 2013 14:27 Cascade wrote:


Thanks! On act 2 keywardens, I normally get the checkpoint in vault of the assassin and get my stacks there. But maybe that is not compatible with the starting point just by ZK for that quest?



Thanks for tips. Cydea + rakanosh seems like the better option for me, if not else because I am used to farm act 3.

For MP, the drop chance of the designs from these bosses goes as:
MP 0: 20%
MP 1: 23.2%
MP 2: 26.912%
MP 3: 31.218%
MP 4: 36.213%
MP 5: 42.007%
MP 6: 48.728%
MP 7: 56.524%
MP 8: 65.568%
MP 9: 76.059%
MP 10: 88.228%

Which is a bit tricky... Does MP5 runs take double time of MP0? It scales slower than keys (where you had 5x the drop chance on MP5 compared to MP1). Hmm, well as my archon gear is a bit more well developed than my cm/ww gear, maybe I'll stay on lower MPs, but I am sure other builds (ohai cm/ww) will benefit more from going to higher MPs. So pretty well balances by blizzard I'd say. Something done right.

On February 13 2013 14:29 Cascade wrote:

Azmodan isn't on the list in the patch notes though. Maybe a typo?

On February 13 2013 14:32 Valiver wrote:

Once you kill a boss you have to reset the quest, which resets any checkpoint so you can't get vault every time unless you search for it
I may do some time runs to see if ZK or cydea/rak is faster, would be good to have proof one way or the other, they are probably fairly similar, depending on class perhaps.

Edit: don't forget the chance to get demonic essences, that rate is
MP 0: 15.0000%
MP 1: 16.5000%
MP 2: 18.1500%
MP 3: 19.9650%
MP 4: 21.9615%
MP 5: 24.1577%
MP 6: 26.5734%
MP 7: 29.2308%
MP 8: 32.1538%
MP 9: 35.3692%
MP 10: 38.9061%
which also influences which mp to do.

On February 13 2013 14:42 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Just saying thats the order of areas you go to. Azmodan isnt on the list but how else do you get to act 4 with your stacks

On February 13 2013 14:46 Cascade wrote:

That list favours lower MPs even more.

But I was thinking mainly of farming the (sellable) designs now first few days. I'm sure the design price will go down pretty quickly, and at that point I can start thinking about farming demonic essence. As the demonic essence is bound to account, I will not consider it much now at start, where I just want to abuse the inflated prices on the new stuff. I do not need to start crafting (bound to account items) from day 1. I'm fine with selling all designs I find at first, and then in a week or two farm/buy the designs I need to craft myself.



Ok, fair enough. Probably a good route to farm in general. Atm I am just thinking how to get designs asap though, as I suspect that will be the most desired item you can sell on the AH when the patch goes live.

On February 13 2013 15:44 Valiver wrote:
Just timed 3 different ZK runs on MP6 and my average was just under 4 minutes from start of the run to dead ZK picking up all items whole way. I just don't see with cut scenes and travel time how cydea -> rak can beat that. (Note that I did get a little lucky and got 5 stacks all 3 times with just sewers and black canyon mines, typically half my runs require 1 other stack from oasis adding 25-50 seconds to the run)

On February 13 2013 19:18 Burrfoot wrote:
Honestly, who cares about plans farming? If even the most in demand (amulet) plans dropped to 1m on PATCH DAY, and will be next to worthless in a few weeks. :-D At least there is a reason to hit the random bosses now though I guess. Still not worth doing any MP but zero for xp or loot for those of us with non-RMAH-able gear. :-D

But the new patterns both giveth and taketh as now every slot with a crafted item just had all their AH-values drop considerably as most folks will be creating so much BoA gear they won't need to check the AH for any alts or when gearing for pvp/pve.