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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 22 2012 03:58 GMT
#15201
for a barb? dont think cains set is reasonable and especially not at mp1
also im pretty sure leorics signets dont stack. have someone run you through getting a hellfire ring
zylog
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada943 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 04:11:51
December 22 2012 04:11 GMT
#15202
On December 22 2012 12:58 travis wrote:
for a barb? dont think cains set is reasonable and especially not at mp1
also im pretty sure leorics signets dont stack. have someone run you through getting a hellfire ring

Double Leoric's means one for yourself, one for your follower. It's also implied that you go double hellfire with this, to get the maximum xp bonus.

Cain's set works well ok at low MP levels if you have solid gear in the other slots, particularly if you can burst down elites in a few seconds at the most. Even better, you can do elite skipping runs where you skip all elites after 5 stacks (or sometimes ignore elites altogether) to maximize your time spent killing trash. This will probably net you the most XP gain possible, but at the expense of item farming.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
December 22 2012 04:34 GMT
#15203
Oh shit...yes sorry Zylog is correct. One Signet goes on your follower, and you get a hellfire ring as your other for maximum experience.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 22 2012 05:00 GMT
#15204
On December 22 2012 13:11 zylog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 12:58 travis wrote:
for a barb? dont think cains set is reasonable and especially not at mp1
also im pretty sure leorics signets dont stack. have someone run you through getting a hellfire ring

Double Leoric's means one for yourself, one for your follower. It's also implied that you go double hellfire with this, to get the maximum xp bonus.

Cain's set works well ok at low MP levels if you have solid gear in the other slots


prove it lol
i tried with wizard at least it wasn't faster xp than dropping cains set
zylog
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada943 Posts
December 22 2012 07:57 GMT
#15205
On December 22 2012 14:00 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 13:11 zylog wrote:
On December 22 2012 12:58 travis wrote:
for a barb? dont think cains set is reasonable and especially not at mp1
also im pretty sure leorics signets dont stack. have someone run you through getting a hellfire ring

Double Leoric's means one for yourself, one for your follower. It's also implied that you go double hellfire with this, to get the maximum xp bonus.

Cain's set works well ok at low MP levels if you have solid gear in the other slots


prove it lol
i tried with wizard at least it wasn't faster xp than dropping cains set


I never got a Leoric's because I didn't care enough about +xp gear to justify the high cost and the loss of stats. I do have a Cain's set, and I did get higher experience doing the types of elite skipping runs I described, but that was with a WW barb which is well suited to running past anything you can't handle in low end gear. I imagine that it's harder to do successfully with a wizard running an archon build. Regardless, I didn't use that Cain's set very much in my leveling, my preference was normal or MF gear.

wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 10:04:07
December 22 2012 09:58 GMT
#15206
my DH does mp1 with hf/leo (30%)/cain's set pretty easy. 80m+ exp/hr without skipping any elites. my dex hellfire is a trifecta though so maybe i'm not taking as big a hit in dps as you guys are

just out of curiosity, which 3 pieces do you guys use for cain's? i go helm/gloves/pants and replace my bracers with a lacunis to maintain 24% ms (lose 12 from replacing inna's pants)
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 15:21:03
December 22 2012 12:18 GMT
#15207
Count me in the camp that doesn't feel even a single Leoric is worth using, much less double-Leoric. But then again, I'm also the cheap-ass that still doesn't use a 31% gems because I'd rather have a few bucks. Plus most people don't understand that the 20% Leoric XP bonus doesn't = 20% faster leveling, but only around half that.

Did some simple calculations, and going from a 25% gem to a 31% nets a 2.48% effective XP bonus.

Base XP Bonus = 75% NV, 35% HF, 7% HF.follower, 31% Gem = 248% XP
With a 20% Leorics = 268% XP = +8.06% effective XP bonus
With a 30% Leorics = 278% XP = +12.1% effective XP bonus
With a 30% Leorics + 20% Leoric on Follower = 282% XP = +13.7% effective XP bonus
With a 30% Leorics + 30% Leoric on Follower = 284% XP = +14.5% effective XP bonus

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Feel free to correct my math. It's early in the morning here. But spending actual $ to speed up leveling speed a few % at the cost dps/mf/fun isn't that attractive to me. The Free Hellfire x2 is enough for me! Plus what are you going to do at Plvl 100? Stop playing that character.

Edit: Hadn't checked prices on Leoric's in a few months, I guess the 20% go for only 15m now, so I guess it's not too bad. You could get a very good dps+mf ring for that though.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/career
.Mystic
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada486 Posts
December 22 2012 14:25 GMT
#15208
On December 22 2012 10:32 .Mystic wrote:
hey, so i'm going to start playing D3 again since the legendary patch.
I'm thinking about choosing between WD and Wiz. Which one is more fun and more efficient in farming/paragom/mp lvl?

Soulmate
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Japan138 Posts
December 22 2012 15:18 GMT
#15209
Wizard for higher MP, WD for lower MP.
Fun is subjective. I prefer WD personnaly.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 22 2012 15:39 GMT
#15210
On December 22 2012 23:25 .Mystic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 10:32 .Mystic wrote:
hey, so i'm going to start playing D3 again since the legendary patch.
I'm thinking about choosing between WD and Wiz. Which one is more fun and more efficient in farming/paragom/mp lvl?



my 2 cents having played exclusively those 2 classes?

more fun: wizard
more efficient in all 3 things you listed? WIZARD WIZARD WIZARD
itsben
Profile Joined July 2010
435 Posts
December 22 2012 18:05 GMT
#15211
On December 23 2012 00:39 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 23:25 .Mystic wrote:
On December 22 2012 10:32 .Mystic wrote:
hey, so i'm going to start playing D3 again since the legendary patch.
I'm thinking about choosing between WD and Wiz. Which one is more fun and more efficient in farming/paragom/mp lvl?



my 2 cents having played exclusively those 2 classes?

more fun: wizard
more efficient in all 3 things you listed? WIZARD WIZARD WIZARD


Seconded. I'm a barb so less bias
Soulmate
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Japan138 Posts
December 22 2012 18:34 GMT
#15212
Well, archon wizard : you play with one hand
CM wizard : macro FTW / spam everything.
I didn't find this playstyle fun tbh but I can understand that facestomping everthing is.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
December 22 2012 19:03 GMT
#15213
I think Wizard is overall better, but WD can't be too bad either. If you decide to roll a Witch Doctor, I found a legendary Mojo (unidentified) you're free to have that. Was my first legendary find..........it's not worth much lol.
zylog
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada943 Posts
December 22 2012 19:51 GMT
#15214
I quite enjoy the WD speedfarming mechanic, where you stack a ton of pickup radius which in turn cools your abilities down as you kill enemies within that radius. I find that this playstyle is more dynamic than that of the wizard, which I see as right click to kill everything (archon) or spam all the keys as fast as possible (CM wizard).

Overall I think the monk is the most efficient class in the game at the moment though.
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
December 22 2012 20:43 GMT
#15215
I have all classes at 60 as well, and WD vs Wiz... I prefer WD personally, specifically the WD Grave Injustice Build. The best part is there isn't a very specific cookie cutter spec like WW Barb / CM Wiz / etc, and you can pick whatever flavor of skills you want: currently I like high attack speed and Fetish Sycophants so I can have an army of little guys with daggers around:

[image loading]

But I also agree with the post a few above, nothing can really touch a CM Wiz in high MPs as far as solo/group. Low MP, solo farming, on a budget, I like WD.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/career
alexnos
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania32 Posts
January 04 2013 14:37 GMT
#15216
Is anyone able to sell gold ? After the new year no gold got sold for me....
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
January 04 2013 14:57 GMT
#15217
I sold everything the moment PvP blog hit, try buying gems and selling those for $... Maybe soon radiant emeralds will be the new SoJs and selling for .25 lol
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/career
Monkeyballs25
Profile Joined October 2010
531 Posts
January 05 2013 20:20 GMT
#15218
Man, I came back to the level 60 Inferno softcore scene after finishing level up a barb, and there's row after row of Immortal King 2handers with 1400 dps selling for 100k gold buyout. This economy is weird.
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
January 06 2013 01:59 GMT
#15219
On January 06 2013 05:20 Monkeyballs25 wrote:
Man, I came back to the level 60 Inferno softcore scene after finishing level up a barb, and there's row after row of Immortal King 2handers with 1400 dps selling for 100k gold buyout. This economy is weird.


its because they are quite bad.... any normal twohander with 1200 and a socket is better so its not that weird
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
January 06 2013 02:33 GMT
#15220
bnet down or wad? cant login......
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