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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On December 04 2012 17:31 Cascade wrote: Most likely just good old RNG, enhanced by some equally good and old confirmation bias.  Sometimes it feels like every single champion pack I run into has jailer, mortar and arcane... >_> Mostly Lacunis for me this past week. Can't complain; found a set with decent arcane resist I want to try on my Monk. Maybe the next set will have some tasty CC on it :D | ||
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Confuse
2238 Posts
On December 04 2012 17:56 Obvious.660 wrote: Mostly Lacunis for me this past week. Can't complain; found a set with decent arcane resist I want to try on my Monk. Maybe the next set will have some tasty CC on it :D Please tell us exactly what runs you do, must try to mimic for moar lacunis over ivory towers/tzo krin's gaze ; ] | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On December 04 2012 21:14 Confuse wrote: Please tell us exactly what runs you do, must try to mimic for moar lacunis over ivory towers/tzo krin's gaze ; ] Also tell us what clothes you wear while playing, and what you have for breakfast the days you find the lacunis!!!! | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On December 04 2012 21:40 Cascade wrote: Also tell us what clothes you wear while playing, and what you have for breakfast the days you find the lacunis!!!! well I got these yesterday :o + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rIDm5.png) | ||
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Jiiks
Finland487 Posts
 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/uaoM7.png) | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
:o I guess the 300k I own won't be enough to take those from you. :D More importantly, where did you find them, and what did you have for breakfast yesterday?? | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On December 04 2012 17:02 Samba wrote: Isn´t that just how magic find works? The higher your MF the higher chance of getting better items, right? And doesn´t it affect the number of properties on an item too? Funny, everyone jumped all over themselves telling you that iLvl isn't effected by Magic Find (which is true). But no one bothered to tell you that MF increases the number of properties on an item. After checking if the drop is legendary/set the game checks the following: 6-affix rare 5-affix rare 4-affix rare I don't believe magic items are subdivided by affixes like rares are, but who cares about those. All that matters is: Magic Find will increase the number of affixes on your rares but not the iLvl. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On December 05 2012 08:54 Wuster wrote: Funny, everyone jumped all over themselves telling you that iLvl isn't effected by Magic Find (which is true). But no one bothered to tell you that MF increases the number of properties on an item. After checking if the drop is legendary/set the game checks the following: 6-affix rare 5-affix rare 4-affix rare I don't believe magic items are subdivided by affixes like rares are, but who cares about those. All that matters is: Magic Find will increase the number of affixes on your rares but not the iLvl. It's true, and you are correct, but it's not a very big difference. And the difference is not that you get more 6-affix, but fewer 4-affix (which we don't care much for anyways). In the sense that if you have +300%mf, you will get (very close to) 4x as many 6-affix rares as with no +mf, but you will get less than 4x as many 4-affix rares. The reason is that all the 6-affix (and 5-affix) rares you get with the high mf will "block" the lower tier items. What really screws up the ratio of good (or at least 6-affix) rares though, is that the bonus rare you get from NV is much more likely to have few affixes than a "normal" rare. Haven't confirmed this last bit myself though. But we don't really care about the ratio though, we care about the probability of a drop being good. If the bad drops are white, blue or 4-affix rare, we don't really care. So assuming that the good rares mainly come from the 6-affix ones, we don't have to think too much about this, and the number of good drops will increase linearly with mf. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
So it's effectively a normal drop with all the white, grey, blue items turned into a 4-affix rare. So you're right; it's much, much more likely to be a 4-affix rare than anything else. Edit: I should mention I'm going by logic here, not full testing since is there even a way to identify which item is the bonus item? | ||
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Confuse
2238 Posts
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Samba
Germany452 Posts
On December 05 2012 08:54 Wuster wrote: Funny, everyone jumped all over themselves telling you that iLvl isn't effected by Magic Find (which is true). But no one bothered to tell you that MF increases the number of properties on an item. After checking if the drop is legendary/set the game checks the following: 6-affix rare 5-affix rare 4-affix rare I don't believe magic items are subdivided by affixes like rares are, but who cares about those. All that matters is: Magic Find will increase the number of affixes on your rares but not the iLvl. Ah nice, thanks for the confirmation, thought i read that somewhere. I can definitly see a difference when running with my wiz with 400%MF compared to my monk with only 200, it´s like twice the amount of rares (still 99% crap though). But what about crafting? Does MF affect that too? Not that it´s useful, just curious. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On December 05 2012 10:56 Samba wrote: Ah nice, thanks for the confirmation, thought i read that somewhere. I can definitly see a difference when running with my wiz with 400%MF compared to my monk with only 200, it´s like twice the amount of rares (still 99% crap though). But what about crafting? Does MF affect that too? Not that it´s useful, just curious. Nothing for MF to effect in crafting. # of mods is set in the recipe. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On December 05 2012 10:18 Confuse wrote: Does this mean the bonus item is irrelevant the majority of the time? All items are irrelevant the majority of the time. But yes, as I understood (don't even remember the source, sorry... was someone here on TL that had done the research) the bonus item is on average (significantly) more likely to have 4 affixes (and thus very likely be bad) than the other rares. What wuster said, about the bonus drop being a normal drop with 100% 4 affix probability, makes a lot of sense. Could very well be how it works. Didn't know the bonus item can be a legendary. And that would strengthen the point that the probability of getting good items (assuming they are almost only 6 affix rares or better), scales linearly with MF, and that we don't really have to care about all these 6 affix to 4 affix ratios. Only a question of how much trash we get with the good stuff. Unless you want to trade in un-IDed rares ofc, then this becomes important.... | ||
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Jiiks
Finland487 Posts
Yes the nv extra item can be a legendary, if you've ever gotten a double legendary drop then one of them was the extra item and if it's rare it's guaranteed to have 4 affixes. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
Yes, your account is flagged for bad drops and this is why. When whining is detected that bit is set to logic high, if complaining is also detected and set high then the LOOT NOT signal is generated. When the LOOT NOT signal is generated a 30 day countdown is started, if neither whining or complaining is detected during that time then LESSON LEARNED signal is generated. That applies a momentary ground to the whining and complaining lines, which resets the circuit and allows normal drops to resume. In the "Is my account flagged for bad drops" thread that gave me a chuckle. (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7199963975?page=33) | ||
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Aceace
Turkey1305 Posts
One of my friend saw this while looking achievements menu... PvP tokens? Gold and Exp? Any idea? I hope blizz won't introduce some kind of "Fight, gain honor, buy something from vendor" | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
@dAPhreak - I'm partial to Rawr's detailed view, which can let you compare full gear sets for dps *and* ehp - http://www.d3rawr.com/ But I suspect you're talking about the bios gaming dps calculator that lest you swap out one piece at a time - http://www.bios-gaming.de/d3dps/ Also, the AH is funny. Last week I bought a belt for 500k (bid not buyout); got a better one this week for 50k (bid not buyout) then sold my old belt for 2M (buyout, makes me think I should have asked for more). | ||
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alQahira
United States511 Posts
It picks up your items from bnet, but easy to tweak. | ||
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