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Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
November 30 2012 10:41 GMT
#14961
On November 30 2012 16:25 Obvious.660 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 15:30 Infundibulum wrote:
so... izual still doesn't drop guaranteed rares with 5 stack NV. hasn't this bug been in the game since release?

It's been this way for quite some time and is not a bug. I believe they changed his loot table when they nerfed breakable drops or around that time. It is sort of vexing, admittedly but it's just another reason on top of many that Act 4 is largely ignored.


If true this is seriously annoying. I have no doubt Blizzard at least knows that the majority of exp farming is done in act 3 even with this monster power patch because of mob density.

I wish they made a reason for people to go after story bosses, or increased mob density of act 1, 2, 4 : /. As it is, there is very little incentive to do anything beyond keys, and act 3 alkaizers : /
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3815 Posts
November 30 2012 10:41 GMT
#14962
On November 30 2012 18:10 justiceknight wrote:
does MPX affect legendary drops? I always farm in pub games due to speed clearing and the drops were okay-ish =\


It affects magic find and extra drop chance from all units.

Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 11:39:36
November 30 2012 11:33 GMT
#14963
On November 30 2012 19:41 Confuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 16:25 Obvious.660 wrote:
On November 30 2012 15:30 Infundibulum wrote:
so... izual still doesn't drop guaranteed rares with 5 stack NV. hasn't this bug been in the game since release?

It's been this way for quite some time and is not a bug. I believe they changed his loot table when they nerfed breakable drops or around that time. It is sort of vexing, admittedly but it's just another reason on top of many that Act 4 is largely ignored.


If true this is seriously annoying. I have no doubt Blizzard at least knows that the majority of exp farming is done in act 3 even with this monster power patch because of mob density.

I wish they made a reason for people to go after story bosses, or increased mob density of act 1, 2, 4 : /. As it is, there is very little incentive to do anything beyond keys, and act 3 alkaizers : /

I'm sure they will look to address it somehow at some point. They are not yet publishing a list of things to expect in 1.0.7 and there very well could be some kind of incentive added to playing in other acts (besides the change in scenery). PVP, monster density, and reflect damage seem to be the hot topics as far as the official forums and reddit look over the past couple of weeks so the devs may be assigned to one or more of those issues for the next major set of changes.

As far as Izual is concerned, if you like Act 4 you can probably stop your route before him as Izual + Diablo is a huge time sink and not worth the time in my opinion. If you like killin act bosses for fun, you should do that once in a while. Siege breaker + Azmodan may be refreshing even though most of the route is already familiar. Maybe add Ghom as well?

When I am looking for something fresh to do I join a public game. They are not completely bot-infested yet.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 09:24:45
November 30 2012 13:49 GMT
#14964
Linked in item thread, but might as well mention it here as well as it's a bit scary how far some people will go to get the very best gear on the market:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sooo yeah I don't know if you've heard, but basically the best Echoing Fury of all time dropped earlier today (also #1 on Diabloprogress), and sold for fucking 12000 Euro (!)
edit: was actually 7500, just some people spreading misinformation, point still standing though


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+ Show Spoiler +
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Source: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65489441&f=69&o=0
Zen5034
Profile Joined July 2011
United States384 Posts
November 30 2012 14:09 GMT
#14965
I hope that the above isn't true, but the realist side of me.... ah.

Anyway, is it generally inadvisable to solo ubers?
Jaedong!
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 14:15:04
November 30 2012 14:14 GMT
#14966
On November 30 2012 23:09 Zen5034 wrote:
I hope that the above isn't true, but the realist side of me.... ah.

Anyway, is it generally inadvisable to solo ubers?



Not inadvisable, but generally if you go as a group, each person uses one of his machines, hence giving you three shots per machine you have. So you kinda get more value for your machines. And of course apart from that you have more people with you, and all the benefits it brings. Much like anything else in diablo, as long as you have the dps and survivability for the ubers you can beat them.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3815 Posts
November 30 2012 15:50 GMT
#14967
On November 30 2012 22:49 HaXXspetten wrote:
Linked in item thread, but might as well mention it here as well as it's a bit scary how far some people will go to get the very best gear on the market:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sooo yeah I don't know if you've heard, but basically the best Echoing Fury of all time dropped earlier today (also #1 on Diabloprogress), and sold for fucking 12000 Euro (!)


[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Source: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65489441&f=69&o=0


No lifesteal, but still pretty fucking awesome, but 12k euro is just retarded.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
November 30 2012 15:57 GMT
#14968
On December 01 2012 00:50 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 22:49 HaXXspetten wrote:
Linked in item thread, but might as well mention it here as well as it's a bit scary how far some people will go to get the very best gear on the market:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sooo yeah I don't know if you've heard, but basically the best Echoing Fury of all time dropped earlier today (also #1 on Diabloprogress), and sold for fucking 12000 Euro (!)


[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Source: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65489441&f=69&o=0


No lifesteal, but still pretty fucking awesome, but 12k euro is just retarded.



Really wonder who would buy it for that much.....maybe a duper who wants copy it and make money off it?
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
November 30 2012 16:03 GMT
#14969
On December 01 2012 00:57 dartoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 00:50 Grovbolle wrote:
On November 30 2012 22:49 HaXXspetten wrote:
Linked in item thread, but might as well mention it here as well as it's a bit scary how far some people will go to get the very best gear on the market:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sooo yeah I don't know if you've heard, but basically the best Echoing Fury of all time dropped earlier today (also #1 on Diabloprogress), and sold for fucking 12000 Euro (!)


[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Source: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65489441&f=69&o=0


No lifesteal, but still pretty fucking awesome, but 12k euro is just retarded.



Really wonder who would buy it for that much.....maybe a duper who wants copy it and make money off it?


or someone who is very very rich
I mean if I had more money then I could ever spend I might have bought it, sadly I have a normal salary so that is out of the question. Nice for the one selling it thou
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
November 30 2012 17:04 GMT
#14970
On December 01 2012 01:03 DODswe4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 00:57 dartoo wrote:
On December 01 2012 00:50 Grovbolle wrote:
On November 30 2012 22:49 HaXXspetten wrote:
Linked in item thread, but might as well mention it here as well as it's a bit scary how far some people will go to get the very best gear on the market:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sooo yeah I don't know if you've heard, but basically the best Echoing Fury of all time dropped earlier today (also #1 on Diabloprogress), and sold for fucking 12000 Euro (!)


[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Source: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65489441&f=69&o=0


No lifesteal, but still pretty fucking awesome, but 12k euro is just retarded.



Really wonder who would buy it for that much.....maybe a duper who wants copy it and make money off it?


or someone who is very very rich
I mean if I had more money then I could ever spend I might have bought it, sadly I have a normal salary so that is out of the question. Nice for the one selling it thou
It's a little surprising at first but honestly people spend millions on things like fancy cars when one for $20,000 is perfectly functional. So with that in mind, I think it's pretty tame in comparison to other ways rich people decide to splurge. If you fucking love diablo, then I would argue that spending thousands on items is a better choice then buying a $10,000 bottle of wine or something else lol.
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
November 30 2012 19:33 GMT
#14971
where do people sell high end items? I recently sold a near perfect mempo (170 str, socket, cc 5.5) on the rmah for the maxed out 250, but knew i got ripped off : /
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
November 30 2012 19:49 GMT
#14972
I don't know if this is the right place to put this, but I could really use your guys' help!

A friend and I are finishing up our final project for our machine learning class, and we've decided that trying to estimate the sell value of amulets in d3 based on their stats would be a really interesting problem to tackle. The problem is, it seems like it's almost impossible to get data out of the auction house in any reasonable way, and we need more data.

So, we set up a website (http://people.oregonstate.edu/~merriler/) that lets people submit information about recent amulet purchases/sales. If you've bought or sold any amulets recently, I'd really appreciate it if you took a few seconds to fill out the form on our site so we could better train our algorithm.

If there's any interest, I'd be happy to post our results around here if we manage to produce anything interesting. Thanks!
:3
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 20:50:33
November 30 2012 20:30 GMT
#14973
On November 30 2012 19:41 Confuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 16:25 Obvious.660 wrote:
On November 30 2012 15:30 Infundibulum wrote:
so... izual still doesn't drop guaranteed rares with 5 stack NV. hasn't this bug been in the game since release?

It's been this way for quite some time and is not a bug. I believe they changed his loot table when they nerfed breakable drops or around that time. It is sort of vexing, admittedly but it's just another reason on top of many that Act 4 is largely ignored.


If true this is seriously annoying. I have no doubt Blizzard at least knows that the majority of exp farming is done in act 3 even with this monster power patch because of mob density.

I wish they made a reason for people to go after story bosses, or increased mob density of act 1, 2, 4 : /. As it is, there is very little incentive to do anything beyond keys, and act 3 alkaizers : /


Izual take so long to kill anyways; that even with the guaranteed rare he isn't worth stopping for (from an efficiency standpoint).

By putting the plans on A4 instead of A1; Blizz basically acknowledged that A4 isn't worth farming. So who knows if they'll do anything. It's not like they can just add more areas to run around...

So who knows; maybe they'll add in some more events to A4.

Actually; the most annoying change/bug to me is that mini-quests don't drop guaranteed rares (Forged in Fire, Forsaken Farm, Turning the Tide, Sardar's, Khan Dakab, ect); which is doubly annoying since they took out the resplendent chest on Sardar's and Khan Dakab!

On a side note: Decaying Crypt in A1 is the new jackpot though; a bunch of elites on lvl 1; then an event *and* working resplendent chest on lvl 2.
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
November 30 2012 20:43 GMT
#14974
On December 01 2012 04:33 Confuse wrote:
where do people sell high end items? I recently sold a near perfect mempo (170 str, socket, cc 5.5) on the rmah for the maxed out 250, but knew i got ripped off : /


Yeah you probably could have easily gotten 2 billion on the gah and at the current gold prices you could have sold that 2b for $700 (before tax). If its over 2b you have to use the battle.net forums, d2jsp, TL, wherever else you can think of.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
December 01 2012 01:59 GMT
#14975
On December 01 2012 00:57 dartoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 00:50 Grovbolle wrote:
On November 30 2012 22:49 HaXXspetten wrote:
Linked in item thread, but might as well mention it here as well as it's a bit scary how far some people will go to get the very best gear on the market:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sooo yeah I don't know if you've heard, but basically the best Echoing Fury of all time dropped earlier today (also #1 on Diabloprogress), and sold for fucking 12000 Euro (!)


[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Source: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65489441&f=69&o=0


No lifesteal, but still pretty fucking awesome, but 12k euro is just retarded.



Really wonder who would buy it for that much.....maybe a duper who wants copy it and make money off it?


Just saw a twitch tv stream with the barb who owns it now, so I don't think he's a duper.

Just a small correction btw; the sale price was 7.5k euro, which is still mind boggling to me. And of course this item was flipped off the RMAH where someone put it up for 250 euro...
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 01 2012 02:08 GMT
#14976
On December 01 2012 10:59 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 00:57 dartoo wrote:
On December 01 2012 00:50 Grovbolle wrote:
On November 30 2012 22:49 HaXXspetten wrote:
Linked in item thread, but might as well mention it here as well as it's a bit scary how far some people will go to get the very best gear on the market:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sooo yeah I don't know if you've heard, but basically the best Echoing Fury of all time dropped earlier today (also #1 on Diabloprogress), and sold for fucking 12000 Euro (!)


[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Source: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65489441&f=69&o=0


No lifesteal, but still pretty fucking awesome, but 12k euro is just retarded.



Really wonder who would buy it for that much.....maybe a duper who wants copy it and make money off it?


Just saw a twitch tv stream with the barb who owns it now, so I don't think he's a duper.

Just a small correction btw; the sale price was 7.5k euro, which is still mind boggling to me. And of course this item was flipped off the RMAH where someone put it up for 250 euro...

link? i want to see this amzaing barb
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 17:17:01
December 01 2012 17:11 GMT
#14977
On December 01 2012 11:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 10:59 Wuster wrote:
On December 01 2012 00:57 dartoo wrote:
On December 01 2012 00:50 Grovbolle wrote:
On November 30 2012 22:49 HaXXspetten wrote:
Linked in item thread, but might as well mention it here as well as it's a bit scary how far some people will go to get the very best gear on the market:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sooo yeah I don't know if you've heard, but basically the best Echoing Fury of all time dropped earlier today (also #1 on Diabloprogress), and sold for fucking 12000 Euro (!)


[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Source: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65489441&f=69&o=0


No lifesteal, but still pretty fucking awesome, but 12k euro is just retarded.



Really wonder who would buy it for that much.....maybe a duper who wants copy it and make money off it?


Just saw a twitch tv stream with the barb who owns it now, so I don't think he's a duper.

Just a small correction btw; the sale price was 7.5k euro, which is still mind boggling to me. And of course this item was flipped off the RMAH where someone put it up for 250 euro...

link? i want to see this amzaing barb

http://sv.twitch.tv/hieven
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Hieven-2432/hero/7687734
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/hieven-2432/Hieven/7687734

ranked 16 world for barb dps

edit: and yeah it was "only" €7500 in the end, just some people being bad at maths in the thread
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
December 01 2012 20:45 GMT
#14978
On December 01 2012 05:43 Charger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 04:33 Confuse wrote:
where do people sell high end items? I recently sold a near perfect mempo (170 str, socket, cc 5.5) on the rmah for the maxed out 250, but knew i got ripped off : /


Yeah you probably could have easily gotten 2 billion on the gah and at the current gold prices you could have sold that 2b for $700 (before tax). If its over 2b you have to use the battle.net forums, d2jsp, TL, wherever else you can think of.


I dunno; I posted it for a week at 1b no buyout and no one was biting. I'll try posting on these forums next time, thanks for the advice : P
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
December 01 2012 20:59 GMT
#14979
On December 01 2012 05:30 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 19:41 Confuse wrote:
On November 30 2012 16:25 Obvious.660 wrote:
On November 30 2012 15:30 Infundibulum wrote:
so... izual still doesn't drop guaranteed rares with 5 stack NV. hasn't this bug been in the game since release?

It's been this way for quite some time and is not a bug. I believe they changed his loot table when they nerfed breakable drops or around that time. It is sort of vexing, admittedly but it's just another reason on top of many that Act 4 is largely ignored.


If true this is seriously annoying. I have no doubt Blizzard at least knows that the majority of exp farming is done in act 3 even with this monster power patch because of mob density.

I wish they made a reason for people to go after story bosses, or increased mob density of act 1, 2, 4 : /. As it is, there is very little incentive to do anything beyond keys, and act 3 alkaizers : /


Izual take so long to kill anyways; that even with the guaranteed rare he isn't worth stopping for (from an efficiency standpoint).

By putting the plans on A4 instead of A1; Blizz basically acknowledged that A4 isn't worth farming. So who knows if they'll do anything. It's not like they can just add more areas to run around...

So who knows; maybe they'll add in some more events to A4.

Actually; the most annoying change/bug to me is that mini-quests don't drop guaranteed rares (Forged in Fire, Forsaken Farm, Turning the Tide, Sardar's, Khan Dakab, ect); which is doubly annoying since they took out the resplendent chest on Sardar's and Khan Dakab!

On a side note: Decaying Crypt in A1 is the new jackpot though; a bunch of elites on lvl 1; then an event *and* working resplendent chest on lvl 2.


Oh interesting, I wonder if there's an act 1 route that people have tried to explore for farming?
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
m00nchile
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovenia240 Posts
December 01 2012 21:27 GMT
#14980
RNG can be a cruel bitch. Got 3 legendaries today, all of them Ageless Might... I was contemplating throwing my computer through the window for a few tenths of a second after the third one dropped.
The above post was made by a noob. Take it as such.
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