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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 12 2012 09:23 GMT
#13261
On July 12 2012 17:40 eu.exodus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 15:32 HoriZoNXI wrote:
On July 12 2012 14:24 Heh_ wrote:
Ooohhh I found rare arch axe (ilvl63).... 98% crit dmg 650 LoH 11% IAS..... + Show Spoiler +
300 dps.


Haha I usually just not look at any stat other than DPS if it's lower than 750 and vendor it. Too bad I've only found 2 750+ DPS weapons so far >.>


same here. so far the highest dps weapon I've found is the crossbow Im currently using which is a shit blue with no other stats except +19% damage making a total of 850dps.

i found my first ilvl 63 legendary staff with +98% crit +8(?) crit chance, +23%mf, socket and 340dps.

i dont know why this shit is even dropping in inferno. its just stupid


I think where blizzard really dropped the ball was legendaries. They wanted well rolled end-game rares to be better than legendaries. I'm fine with that. But right now most legendary weapons are in the 10-15% statwise, while armors are significantly better at 20-70%(some armors/jewelry are actually quite good). Legendaries need to all be in the 60-80% range, because you need to give more casual players a goal. Getting an item which has 10 more dex, -3 vit and 5 more resist all isn't a goal. Of course they already lost too much of the player base to realistically do this any more, but that's what I think they should've done.

If you had legendaries drop around once every 3-5 hours with 200% mf, once every 10 hours with 75%, then the guy who plays a few hours a day will get a legendary every week, and it won't suck. The guy who wants to put in 40 hours a week with 200%+ MF will get about a dozen legendaries, and distribute it around to 95+% of the population, for which it will be BiS. Goals for casuals, no limits on the hardcore. You'll have a RMAH market for fairly cheap poorly rolled legendaries(which are still ~60%), probably for sub $20, along with decently rolled rares. You have the well rolled legendaries, and well rolled rares going for the ~$20-$100 range, and then you'll have the retarded good rares, which goes for whatever they want to pay for it.

Sub-60 legendaries also should be amazing, FAR better than any possible rares of the same level, because otherwise they won't get used at all, especially since you level up so fast.
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crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
July 12 2012 09:32 GMT
#13262
On July 12 2012 17:40 eu.exodus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 15:32 HoriZoNXI wrote:
On July 12 2012 14:24 Heh_ wrote:
Ooohhh I found rare arch axe (ilvl63).... 98% crit dmg 650 LoH 11% IAS..... + Show Spoiler +
300 dps.


Haha I usually just not look at any stat other than DPS if it's lower than 750 and vendor it. Too bad I've only found 2 750+ DPS weapons so far >.>


same here. so far the highest dps weapon I've found is the crossbow Im currently using which is a shit blue with no other stats except +19% damage making a total of 850dps.

i found my first ilvl 63 legendary staff with +98% crit +8(?) crit chance, +23%mf, socket and 340dps.

i dont know why this shit is even dropping in inferno. its just stupid


I found a good blue 1hander with 1020 dps, but no stats or socket, so my crit damage is really suffering. Buying a good 1h with some crit dmg or socket, is like in the millions upon millions. But yes, I only look at the dps of the weapon to just sort out the 300ish dps shit
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
July 12 2012 09:47 GMT
#13263
On July 12 2012 18:23 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 17:40 eu.exodus wrote:
On July 12 2012 15:32 HoriZoNXI wrote:
On July 12 2012 14:24 Heh_ wrote:
Ooohhh I found rare arch axe (ilvl63).... 98% crit dmg 650 LoH 11% IAS..... + Show Spoiler +
300 dps.


Haha I usually just not look at any stat other than DPS if it's lower than 750 and vendor it. Too bad I've only found 2 750+ DPS weapons so far >.>


same here. so far the highest dps weapon I've found is the crossbow Im currently using which is a shit blue with no other stats except +19% damage making a total of 850dps.

i found my first ilvl 63 legendary staff with +98% crit +8(?) crit chance, +23%mf, socket and 340dps.

i dont know why this shit is even dropping in inferno. its just stupid


I think where blizzard really dropped the ball was legendaries. They wanted well rolled end-game rares to be better than legendaries. I'm fine with that. But right now most legendary weapons are in the 10-15% statwise, while armors are significantly better at 20-70%(some armors/jewelry are actually quite good). Legendaries need to all be in the 60-80% range, because you need to give more casual players a goal. Getting an item which has 10 more dex, -3 vit and 5 more resist all isn't a goal. Of course they already lost too much of the player base to realistically do this any more, but that's what I think they should've done.

If you had legendaries drop around once every 3-5 hours with 200% mf, once every 10 hours with 75%, then the guy who plays a few hours a day will get a legendary every week, and it won't suck. The guy who wants to put in 40 hours a week with 200%+ MF will get about a dozen legendaries, and distribute it around to 95+% of the population, for which it will be BiS. Goals for casuals, no limits on the hardcore. You'll have a RMAH market for fairly cheap poorly rolled legendaries(which are still ~60%), probably for sub $20, along with decently rolled rares. You have the well rolled legendaries, and well rolled rares going for the ~$20-$100 range, and then you'll have the retarded good rares, which goes for whatever they want to pay for it.

Sub-60 legendaries also should be amazing, FAR better than any possible rares of the same level, because otherwise they won't get used at all, especially since you level up so fast.

Legendary armors are amazing. Stormshield, Natalya's set, Andy's etc are really good, some of them are even better than perfectly rolled rares. Legendary weapons are... -_- It's like they made dps such an important stat, then forgot all about potential max dps when designing legendary items...

But yeah legendaries drop too rarely. I salvaged my last 2 legendary drops -_-
=Þ
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
July 12 2012 09:51 GMT
#13264
DPS is definitely an easy way to mentally filter items as you find them. I typically look a little closer at any rare if it has more than 600DPS (1H) or 900DPS (2H) for the stats.

It's also the only convenient way to sort weapons on the auction house after the minimally effective three available filters. Price sorting is also only semi-useful as you tend to polarize between deal-hunting (deferring purchase) or burning your gold reserves for the best item you can afford at that time.

If there were bid sorting support (both sorting and including a maximum bid next to maximum buy option), which I'm sure we'll probably see when RMAH activity drops off significantly, I would find the AH much more useful. If I have 2M to drop on a weapon, I would prefer to see everything I can afford with that 2M to only seeing buyouts capped at that price.

Sorry, apparently I got sidetracked about AH on the weapon topic.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
July 12 2012 09:57 GMT
#13265
On July 12 2012 18:51 Obvious.660 wrote:
DPS is definitely an easy way to mentally filter items as you find them. I typically look a little closer at any rare if it has more than 600DPS (1H) or 900DPS (2H) for the stats.

It's also the only convenient way to sort weapons on the auction house after the minimally effective three available filters. Price sorting is also only semi-useful as you tend to polarize between deal-hunting (deferring purchase) or burning your gold reserves for the best item you can afford at that time.

If there were bid sorting support (both sorting and including a maximum bid next to maximum buy option), which I'm sure we'll probably see when RMAH activity drops off significantly, I would find the AH much more useful. If I have 2M to drop on a weapon, I would prefer to see everything I can afford with that 2M to only seeing buyouts capped at that price.

Sorry, apparently I got sidetracked about AH on the weapon topic.

The sad part is that even after looking a little closer, most of them get salvaged anyway. For every weapon that is worth selling, I find about 20 armors lol.

The max bid idea is pretty good.. beats trawling through 30+ pages to find an item worth bidding at <1m.
=Þ
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 12 2012 19:55 GMT
#13266
RMAH Commodities is live.

Anyone wanna help me put up $4000 of my remaining $8000 worth of crafting mats on it? (Speculative lol).

Offering, eh maybe 3 percent cut. PM me, but I have to know who you are.
twitch.tv/medrea
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
July 12 2012 20:12 GMT
#13267
On July 13 2012 04:55 Medrea wrote:
RMAH Commodities is live.

Anyone wanna help me put up $4000 of my remaining $8000 worth of crafting mats on it? (Speculative lol).

Offering, eh maybe 3 percent cut. PM me, but I have to know who you are.

A second D3 license is less than 3%. The longest part of the set up will be waiting for your authenticator. Not sure what your time frame is.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 20:21:20
July 12 2012 20:19 GMT
#13268
Quickly evaporating as I believe the backend is FIFO for tied auctions on commodities.

I have essences that have sold but now I think people have rushed it to the point where my back auctions are too late.

Im still getting stuff sold but I think I'll have made about $1,000 when this rush is over (but Im at far less right now). That might be the last money I needed for my hex monitor setup.
twitch.tv/medrea
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
July 12 2012 20:33 GMT
#13269
Find out if it's sustainable. Once the rush is over, try posting Thursday night (leftovers or whatever) to see how they're doing. Life hack the RMAH, post on payday.

Might have to wait a week because today is Thurs =\
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 12 2012 20:36 GMT
#13270
Its only sustainable while people think D3 is a good game which generally happens when Blizzard makes patches and content updates. Then people drop the game again.
twitch.tv/medrea
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
July 12 2012 20:37 GMT
#13271
Don't think it's FIFO. I think it's "lowest price first".
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 12 2012 20:40 GMT
#13272
On July 13 2012 05:37 heishe wrote:
Don't think it's FIFO. I think it's "lowest price first".


On July 13 2012 05:19 Medrea wrote:
Quickly evaporating as I believe the backend is FIFO for tied auctions on commodities.

twitch.tv/medrea
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
July 12 2012 20:51 GMT
#13273
On July 13 2012 05:36 Medrea wrote:
Its only sustainable while people think D3 is a good game which generally happens when Blizzard makes patches and content updates. Then people drop the game again.

True, but I imagine there will be some hangers-on. Maybe doing what they can to stock up well-rolled items for that next patch or whatever. Buying tons at low prices, or similar strategies. Can't hurt to try it, and maybe share your findings here. No subscription fee so the devs have a chance at redemption in whatever ways allowed.

I bought D2 and had quite a bit of fun with offline mode on a sorceress. Took her to 70s but the cold/fire immune enemies are such a pain. Started an amazon to try that out next. No editors, no dupes, plenty of fun even a decade later.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 12 2012 20:53 GMT
#13274
On July 13 2012 05:51 Obvious.660 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 05:36 Medrea wrote:
Its only sustainable while people think D3 is a good game which generally happens when Blizzard makes patches and content updates. Then people drop the game again.

True, but I imagine there will be some hangers-on. Maybe doing what they can to stock up well-rolled items for that next patch or whatever. Buying tons at low prices, or similar strategies. Can't hurt to try it, and maybe share your findings here. No subscription fee so the devs have a chance at redemption in whatever ways allowed.

I bought D2 and had quite a bit of fun with offline mode on a sorceress. Took her to 70s but the cold/fire immune enemies are such a pain. Started an amazon to try that out next. No editors, no dupes, plenty of fun even a decade later.


I generally have been doing that. Ill give you a quick review.

Im rich.
twitch.tv/medrea
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
July 12 2012 21:07 GMT
#13275
On July 13 2012 05:40 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 05:37 heishe wrote:
Don't think it's FIFO. I think it's "lowest price first".


Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 05:19 Medrea wrote:
Quickly evaporating as I believe the backend is FIFO for tied auctions on commodities.



Oh, sorry.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 12 2012 21:15 GMT
#13276
On July 12 2012 14:24 Heh_ wrote:
Ooohhh I found rare arch axe (ilvl63).... 98% crit dmg 650 LoH 11% IAS..... + Show Spoiler +
300 dps.



hope you didn't salvage. even with the low dps it's a nice stat stick for WW barbs. tornados only factor MH weapon damage so people just buy any DPS offhand with ridiculous stats (str/critdmg/loh).
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 12 2012 23:10 GMT
#13277
Gold to Real Money seems to be live as well. Looks like its 2.50 per million. Sell your hundreds of millions now while you can like me. It might be too late.

Its raining money in D3 again!
twitch.tv/medrea
Ig
Profile Joined January 2011
United States417 Posts
July 12 2012 23:36 GMT
#13278
Gold market inflation inc.
E-warrior of the China brigade, 50 cent party member.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 12 2012 23:40 GMT
#13279
RMAH is locked to a minimum of 2.50 per million. So it should boost the gold value to around there. I think last I checked gold was selling for 90 cents per million.
twitch.tv/medrea
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
July 12 2012 23:46 GMT
#13280
Haha it's okay though. They can have all their AH and RMAH fun. The game is juuuuust fun enough to keep farming once in a while (you know, actually playing the game, for funzies) and since there is no end-boss or end-game to chase, slow and steady without burnout means that people like myself who just play to blow shit up will be fine in the long run. Beating inferno isn't something I would really call an achievement at this stage. Just something fresh to kil (not farm)l. Also, I'm sure if I ever end up in A4 inferno (I only farm A1, shamelessly,) I'll be mad as hell about all those fun one-shot kills Hell was bad enough in gear I picked up along the way.

I subscribed to the author of that last video above just out of curiosity. Interested to see what else he will cover in the future.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
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