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ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
June 19 2012 18:35 GMT
#12421
Will the upcoming IAS nerf effect both "Attack Speed Increased By%" mod on armors and the "Increases Attack Speed By %" weapon mod?
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
June 19 2012 18:36 GMT
#12422
On June 20 2012 03:21 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 03:20 miragev2 wrote:
On June 20 2012 03:17 Derrida wrote:
any feedback on repair costs guys?


i died 3 times on my wiz.

15k repair fee.


LOL mygod!!!! i am going to sell all my gears in RMAH and sell the game^^

/rant


So stop dying. Glass cannon isn't supposed to be the best way to play every character.
BnK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States538 Posts
June 19 2012 18:37 GMT
#12423
lol killing iskatu gives me 1 white instead of 2 blues now damn.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 19:24:11
June 19 2012 18:40 GMT
#12424
Uh... now I'm getting an error. Graphics Error: Click to retry creating D3D device. nothing has changed on my end...

edit: reboot fixed it, strange
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 19 2012 19:24 GMT
#12425
On June 20 2012 03:36 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 03:21 BurningSera wrote:
On June 20 2012 03:20 miragev2 wrote:
On June 20 2012 03:17 Derrida wrote:
any feedback on repair costs guys?


i died 3 times on my wiz.

15k repair fee.


LOL mygod!!!! i am going to sell all my gears in RMAH and sell the game^^

/rant


So stop dying. Glass cannon isn't supposed to be the best way to play every character.


but i am WD Q_Q what to do?!

is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 19 2012 19:46 GMT
#12426
On June 20 2012 03:34 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 03:22 Juicyfruit wrote:
Contrary to popular beliefs, dying is supposed to be a bad thing.

But I have such fond memories of dying so Tyrael could kill the elites!

i as well until they turned him into a 1700 dps bitch. =P
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
June 19 2012 22:53 GMT
#12427
On June 20 2012 04:24 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 03:36 ZasZ. wrote:
On June 20 2012 03:21 BurningSera wrote:
On June 20 2012 03:20 miragev2 wrote:
On June 20 2012 03:17 Derrida wrote:
any feedback on repair costs guys?


i died 3 times on my wiz.

15k repair fee.


LOL mygod!!!! i am going to sell all my gears in RMAH and sell the game^^

/rant


So stop dying. Glass cannon isn't supposed to be the best way to play every character.


but i am WD Q_Q what to do?!


Kite more. Grasp of the dead with 80% slow rune is awesome.

Stack a bit more vit + allres, because mob damage got nerfed.

@repair cost: My items cost bout 24k to full repair.... ouch. I would by dying less if melee mobs hit at melee range instead of half a screen cos of lag...
=Þ
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 19 2012 22:59 GMT
#12428
people are saying that there is no benefit to switching mf gear right before killing an elite/boss because mf is time weighted. is there any truth to that statement?
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 19 2012 23:02 GMT
#12429
On June 20 2012 07:59 dAPhREAk wrote:
people are saying that there is no benefit to switching mf gear right before killing an elite/boss because mf is time weighted. is there any truth to that statement?


lol... i sure hope not..

is blizzard trying it's hardest to kill farming and make the game even less fun? They already have terrible itemization and now they want to pigeon hole you into only searching out elites...might as well take your best shot at efficiently farming with MF switching. Oh the joy we will have.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
June 19 2012 23:05 GMT
#12430
Does critical hits always give discipline with Night Stalker? The tooltips says it gives a chance for it to happen, but no percentages are given.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
June 19 2012 23:12 GMT
#12431
foce armor is useless now, monsters are hitting for like 4k, 6k. highest damage monster is phase beast hitting at 10k. i went from kiting with blizzard/hydra to full on archon mode with critical mass to lower its cooldown. i can walk through acts 3/4 only dieing a handful of times. the game is crazy ez now.
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
June 19 2012 23:17 GMT
#12432
Blizzard: "We want to make sure there isn't one overwhelmingly dominant build to let you play each class however you want."
Translation: "We're going to nerf all the skills people find useful so there aren't any good builds."

Bilzzard: "We don't want the same 60 seconds of content done over and over; MF runs should be a natural part of the game."
Translation: "We're going to nerf every form of farming except for the extremely specific one we want you to do over and over."

Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy the game, but good lord, Blizzard isn't the company it used to be.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
June 19 2012 23:18 GMT
#12433
On June 20 2012 08:12 Entertaining wrote:
foce armor is useless now, monsters are hitting for like 4k, 6k. highest damage monster is phase beast hitting at 10k. i went from kiting with blizzard/hydra to full on archon mode with critical mass to lower its cooldown. i can walk through acts 3/4 only dieing a handful of times. the game is crazy ez now.

Just means you can use prismatic and take even less damage!
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 19 2012 23:25 GMT
#12434
On June 20 2012 08:17 Iranon wrote:
Blizzard: "We want to make sure there isn't one overwhelmingly dominant build to let you play each class however you want."
Translation: "We're going to nerf all the skills people find useful so there aren't any good builds."

Bilzzard: "We don't want the same 60 seconds of content done over and over; MF runs should be a natural part of the game."
Translation: "We're going to nerf every form of farming except for the extremely specific one we want you to do over and over."

Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy the game, but good lord, Blizzard isn't the company it used to be.



it's broken. the method they're pigeonholing people to farm is so much more time consuming and boring that it will be a disaster if left untouched 6-12 months from now.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 23:27:33
June 19 2012 23:26 GMT
#12435
I can progress through Act two Inferno if I avoid the elites that kite me as my Barbarian. The thing is the repair costs are way too high for the little gold I do get so it's much safer to farm goblins or act 1 still than risk the repair costs. So back to more farming even though I can now kill elites which on act two which is nice. Lacuni bomb thowers and fire chain elites are just too ridiculous though.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
June 19 2012 23:31 GMT
#12436
On June 20 2012 08:26 BlackMagister wrote:
I can progress through Act two Inferno if I avoid the elites that kite me as my Barbarian. The thing is the repair costs are way too high for the little gold I do get so it's much safer to farm goblins or act 1 still than risk the repair costs. So back to more farming even though I can now kill elites which on act two which is nice. Lacuni bomb thowers and fire chain elites are just too ridiculous though.


fire chains now does about as much as 2 stack plague did prepatch, which is a whole lot less. It went from damn I got rubber banded and I died to I can eat this for enough time to fight lag and get out alive. Pretty huge difference.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
June 19 2012 23:37 GMT
#12437
On June 20 2012 08:25 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 08:17 Iranon wrote:
Blizzard: "We want to make sure there isn't one overwhelmingly dominant build to let you play each class however you want."
Translation: "We're going to nerf all the skills people find useful so there aren't any good builds."

Bilzzard: "We don't want the same 60 seconds of content done over and over; MF runs should be a natural part of the game."
Translation: "We're going to nerf every form of farming except for the extremely specific one we want you to do over and over."

Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy the game, but good lord, Blizzard isn't the company it used to be.



it's broken. the method they're pigeonholing people to farm is so much more time consuming and boring that it will be a disaster if left untouched 6-12 months from now.


Most lucrative doesn´t mean best. Blizzard hides the best rewards behind the hardest content, random champions randomly generated in random terrain.
You can still send your bot to break vases.
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
June 19 2012 23:41 GMT
#12438
On June 20 2012 08:02 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 07:59 dAPhREAk wrote:
people are saying that there is no benefit to switching mf gear right before killing an elite/boss because mf is time weighted. is there any truth to that statement?


lol... i sure hope not..

is blizzard trying it's hardest to kill farming and make the game even less fun? They already have terrible itemization and now they want to pigeon hole you into only searching out elites...might as well take your best shot at efficiently farming with MF switching. Oh the joy we will have.


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6317360#magicfind

Should be the exact same as D2 but knowing blizzards amazing work ethic they may have redone everything after extensive testing.
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 19 2012 23:45 GMT
#12439
On June 20 2012 08:41 WirelessWaffle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 08:02 crms wrote:
On June 20 2012 07:59 dAPhREAk wrote:
people are saying that there is no benefit to switching mf gear right before killing an elite/boss because mf is time weighted. is there any truth to that statement?


lol... i sure hope not..

is blizzard trying it's hardest to kill farming and make the game even less fun? They already have terrible itemization and now they want to pigeon hole you into only searching out elites...might as well take your best shot at efficiently farming with MF switching. Oh the joy we will have.


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6317360#magicfind

Should be the exact same as D2 but knowing blizzards amazing work ethic they may have redone everything after extensive testing.

thanks for the link. this is one of the posts i was referring to that also references jay wilson:

On June 18 2012 23:47 ezk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 20:37 Nizaris wrote:

I get 8-20 rares per Cydea/Azmodan run and they take me about an hour. I do switch to 200% MF (before stacks) for most elites. at least you have 2 guaranteed bosses instead of 1.




This is not Diablo 2. People are under the false impression that switching is efficient.
Switching gear at the end of the fight is NOT EFFICIENT at all.



Jay Wilson clearly stated during the beta days that swapping gear was something they wanted to get rid of.
How? Simple, add a hidden formula based on combat duration, magic find and time spent wearing magic find gear.
See formula below

True MF%: (Combat Length) / [(Magic Find%) x (Duration)]

For example, for a 3 minute fight wearing 210% magic find and swapping gear during the last 10 seconds.

180 seconds / (2.10 x 10) = 8.571% magic find. (Not 210%).
Your gear did increase your magic findings to 8.5% but no where near 210%.


These are not my findings and could use more hard-data to confirm the influence of each factors.
Someone even made a youtube video about it, just can't find it yet.
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
June 19 2012 23:48 GMT
#12440
This patch is crazy, its like diablo is in beta.
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