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				On May 14 2012 11:06 rezoacken wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 11:04 Djzapz wrote:On May 14 2012 10:57 skyR wrote:On May 14 2012 10:52 Djzapz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I don't know where you saw that I proposed infinite players SkyR, maybe one of my sentences was messy, or you misunderstood. Either way I was proposing 8 players, and then said I'd be fine with 6. I'd like 8 because I think it makes sense, and I feel like it worked in D2.
 I understand that D3 is different, and I understand that there's no magical way to balance it by multiplying the stats of mobs by x% per player. However, I don't think it's unreasonable to give players the option to do 8 players. And yeah we can dick around with the slippery slope of "why not 10, or 12 then?" which is adorable, but I think it would be nice to match D2.
 
 4 is very very few people, and I know it'll suck when I'll be on Ventrilo with 4-5 friends on release, and we'll have to split in 2 servers even though we would have had a lot more fun goofing together, all 5-6 of us. This is especially true for normal difficulty which, at least in the beta, is ridiculous anyway.
 On May 14 2012 07:22 Djzapz wrote:
 Well here's a little piece of mind: let the player decide what's fun and what isn't, is that so crazy? And if the game is supposed to sweetspot at 4 players, then they should just give no further bonuses (items or xp) beyond that, and the default game size should be 4. I don't think it's unreasonable.
 
 I have 6 close friends who are going to buy the game, and a bunch of friends-of-friends who are going to join the games that we'll be in, so naturally I'll have people telling me "hey your game's full come to this other game" and whatnot.
 
 Oh well, too bad I guess.
 Infinite? Sure if you want to extrapolate and reach into the things I didn't say and didn't mean. 8 players however is more reasonable from a technical and design standpoint. 4 players is more reasonable from a technical and design standpoint... If they think its bad after 4 players and cannot really balance the game for 8 its pretty clear why they limited to 4. By the way, you dont get any bonus playing with 1 2 or 3 player you get the exact same thing, only killing speed is different and the challenge. Well it's easy to say "it's like that because it's better like that". I don't think so, though. Blizzard is very much fallible.
 
 
 
 On May 14 2012 11:11 GogoKodo wrote:I felt like 8 player games in Diablo 2 were kind of a shit-show anyway, really chaotic and generally a lot of overlap in spells. They were fun in some ways, but they weren't great game experiences (for me) especially when running around enclosed areas with everyone splitting off and heading their own way.
 It's still nice to have the option. I know I'm disappointed and so are my friends. We used to have a good amount of fun with this chaotic shit show you're describing.
 
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				On May 14 2012 11:11 GogoKodo wrote:I felt like 8 player games in Diablo 2 were kind of a shit-show anyway, really chaotic and generally a lot of overlap in spells. They were fun in some ways, but they weren't great game experiences (for me) especially when running around enclosed areas with everyone splitting off and heading their own way.
 
 My experience in D2 with 8 player games was "wait for it, wait for it... instant 8 million hammers, ten blizzards, lag spike, everything dies and the loot disappears, and then everyone leaves the game." -______-
 
 But now I have a better computer :D
 
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				+ Show Spoiler +UNICORNS AND TEDDY BEARS!+ Show Spoiler + http://www.diablofans.com/news/1205-diablo-3-new-cow-level-models-quests-and-so-much-more-massive-spoiler/ 
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				Will the european version start at 0:00 our time (CEST), or do we have to wait until its 15th in the US?
			
		
	 
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				One thing I found interesting about inferno:
 Apparently there is an achievement to kill the skeleton king within two minutes on inferno.  Since he has some ungodly amount of hp, I think it amounted to about 150k dps.  Of course this needs to be higher due to his "phases" of summoning skeleton adds, etc.
 
 I expect we will be doing so much damage once we get geared out, it will be just.. insane and, of course, fun
   
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				On May 14 2012 16:07 CruelZeratul wrote:Will the european version start at 0:00 our time (CEST), or do we have to wait until its 15th in the US?
 http://diablocountdown.eu/
 
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				On May 14 2012 13:29 skyR wrote:+ Show Spoiler +UNICORNS AND TEDDY BEARS!+ Show Spoiler + http://www.diablofans.com/news/1205-diablo-3-new-cow-level-models-quests-and-so-much-more-massive-spoiler/ 
 Quite frankly,
 
 + Show Spoiler +
 I hope those pictures are jokes. They look fucking stupid and way too cartoony. At least the D2 cows worked with the game's atmosphere... pink teddy bears and unicorns as monsters? Seriously?   
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				I ordered from Amazon through the TL link to help out the site, and I'm pretty sure it won't arrive until well into Tuesday. Is there any way I can still play at midnight?
			
		
	 
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				On May 14 2012 17:22 Mandarinez wrote:I ordered from Amazon through the TL link to help out the site, and I'm pretty sure it won't arrive until well into Tuesday. Is there any way I can still play at midnight?
 Unless you get amazon to somehow send you the CD key ahead of time, obviously not...
 
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				On May 14 2012 17:22 Mandarinez wrote:I ordered from Amazon through the TL link to help out the site, and I'm pretty sure it won't arrive until well into Tuesday. Is there any way I can still play at midnight?
 unless you get some postal dude to open the pack and text you the key... buy another online version?
 
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				On May 14 2012 17:48 Gaslo wrote:Hmm, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33581946/d3/index.html  that page says you can already install the EU version, but for me, the fire from the sky still falls.    So is that site just wrong, or is my installer bugged? 
 Make sure you downloaded the EU version of the installer.
 
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				On May 14 2012 17:48 Gaslo wrote:Hmm, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33581946/d3/index.html  that page says you can already install the EU version, but for me, the fire from the sky still falls.    So is that site just wrong, or is my installer bugged? You can install at 17.01 CEST
 
 In approx. 6 hours
 
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				Do we know when the game will unlock EU time?  I.e., will it be at midnight tonight?  I tried to find it on the offical site but no dice   
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				Lol, just saw the link for the EU countdown: http://diablocountdown.eu/
 I got so excited about it I posted without actually checking the site.  Looks like 11pm UK time.  Could be a late night for me!  I may be a corpse (or hell spawn?) at work tomorrow
  
 I CANNOT WAIT!
 
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				So far as i know, it will be 00:01 Paris time. But it's nothing confirmed i'm afraid  
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				I was reading first comments on this thread and how D3 was coming early in 2011, now its less then 22 hours away from us and is may 2012, who would have thought that huh ) Long Long wait is finally rewarded. Amen
			
		
		
	 
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				So when will the game go live in Asia?Would like to watch some streams.
 
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				On May 14 2012 21:02 Redox wrote:So when will the game go live in Asia?
 Would like to watch some streams.
 
 I believe Khaldor is going to stream it as soon as it goes up.
 
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