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bdictkam
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada155 Posts
August 09 2011 19:36 GMT
#4321
So basicly the first person to make a private undetected bot, will cash in on alot of real money auctions?? How many programmers are already working on this .. lol..
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 19:38:51
August 09 2011 19:38 GMT
#4322
On August 10 2011 04:36 bdictkam wrote:
So basicly the first person to make a private undetected bot, will cash in on alot of real money auctions?? How many programmers are already working on this .. lol..


No the first one to do it will sell the bot for crazy prices to farmers just like in every other game, who will then abuse the RMAH to make the money back.


Side note: Expect working bots before beta ends.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
August 09 2011 19:44 GMT
#4323
On August 10 2011 04:38 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 04:36 bdictkam wrote:
So basicly the first person to make a private undetected bot, will cash in on alot of real money auctions?? How many programmers are already working on this .. lol..


No the first one to do it will sell the bot for crazy prices to farmers just like in every other game, who will then abuse the RMAH to make the money back.


Side note: Expect working bots before beta ends.

yeah I wonder what capcha type stuff they will have. I don't think they can possibly stop it, esp with how profitable it will be.
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
Puph
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
August 09 2011 19:54 GMT
#4324
On August 10 2011 04:38 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 04:36 bdictkam wrote:
So basicly the first person to make a private undetected bot, will cash in on alot of real money auctions?? How many programmers are already working on this .. lol..


No the first one to do it will sell the bot for crazy prices to farmers just like in every other game, who will then abuse the RMAH to make the money back.


Side note: Expect working bots before beta ends.


Someone said this a hundred or so pages back comparing 'any other game' and blizzard's RMAH. This is going to be a Real Money* system where botting and hacking will be automatic grounds for fraud. If you expect tons of bots, I expect tons of bans and possibly a lawsuit. I imagine Blizzard is working very hard to nail hacks at the source with a sturdy system. Releasing the game before that time would be a horrible business move. In regards to botting/hacks, we must only hope we waited long enough.
Intel Dual Core 4400 @ ~2.00GHz / 2046MB RAM / 256 MB ATI Radeon x1300PRO
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 20:08:51
August 09 2011 20:08 GMT
#4325
On August 10 2011 04:54 Puph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 04:38 NotSorry wrote:
On August 10 2011 04:36 bdictkam wrote:
So basicly the first person to make a private undetected bot, will cash in on alot of real money auctions?? How many programmers are already working on this .. lol..


No the first one to do it will sell the bot for crazy prices to farmers just like in every other game, who will then abuse the RMAH to make the money back.


Side note: Expect working bots before beta ends.


Someone said this a hundred or so pages back comparing 'any other game' and blizzard's RMAH. This is going to be a Real Money* system where botting and hacking will be automatic grounds for fraud. If you expect tons of bots, I expect tons of bans and possibly a lawsuit. I imagine Blizzard is working very hard to nail hacks at the source with a sturdy system. Releasing the game before that time would be a horrible business move. In regards to botting/hacks, we must only hope we waited long enough.


Yup they've really nailed down all the hackers in Starcraft 2 as well... Demote that GrandMaster dude to Bronze that really showed him...

Edit: Oh if you can't tell I have ZERO faith in Blizzard for dealing with hackers.
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
Nazarid
Profile Joined February 2010
United States445 Posts
August 09 2011 20:10 GMT
#4326
On August 10 2011 04:38 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 04:36 bdictkam wrote:
So basicly the first person to make a private undetected bot, will cash in on alot of real money auctions?? How many programmers are already working on this .. lol..


No the first one to do it will sell the bot for crazy prices to farmers just like in every other game, who will then abuse the RMAH to make the money back.


Side note: Expect working bots before beta ends.



Well sure if a bot system pops up thats great... Not only will your account be closed if caught, you will be facing jail time because it is fraud. The smart ones with proxy's in place might escape the jail time but others wont.. you really think people will risk possible jail time just to fraud the auction system? most wont. If you think that it wont come down to getting arrested you are incorrect, you already can get jail time buy selling a WoW gold/accounts(multiple accounts) I know this to be a fact as a friend of mine got smacked with a Class C Felony(Internet fraud) he spent 6 months in prison for this and all he did was sell 4 WoW accounts that made over 2,000$.
Randomize the world, and Life shall be given.
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 20:20:30
August 09 2011 20:14 GMT
#4327
On August 10 2011 05:10 Nazarid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 04:38 NotSorry wrote:
On August 10 2011 04:36 bdictkam wrote:
So basicly the first person to make a private undetected bot, will cash in on alot of real money auctions?? How many programmers are already working on this .. lol..


No the first one to do it will sell the bot for crazy prices to farmers just like in every other game, who will then abuse the RMAH to make the money back.


Side note: Expect working bots before beta ends.



Well sure if a bot system pops up thats great... Not only will your account be closed if caught, you will be facing jail time because it is fraud. The smart ones with proxy's in place might escape the jail time but others wont.. you really think people will risk possible jail time just to fraud the auction system? most wont. If you think that it wont come down to getting arrested you are incorrect, you already can get jail time buy selling a WoW gold/accounts(multiple accounts) I know this to be a fact as a friend of mine got smacked with a Class C Felony(Internet fraud) he spent 6 months in prison for this and all he did was sell 4 WoW accounts that made over 2,000$.


I read this good article earlier on TorrentFreak and figured it kind of resembles this issue.
http://torrentfreak.com/and-when-even-the-death-penalty-doesnt-deter-copying-what-then-110807/

Essentially it says that back in older times (Medieval times) they used to put people through brutal torture then death for copyright stuff.
It didn't stop people from copying patterns for clothing.

I think the same kind of mentality still exists here. If you have a chance to get easy money from doing it with the "chance" of going to jail I don't think its going to really deter the people who do it as a profession. It might stop the Joe Average from doing it but it isn't going to stop the big fish who do it already in other games.
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 09 2011 20:18 GMT
#4328
As if some chinese underground mmo farming cartel cared about US laws
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Nazarid
Profile Joined February 2010
United States445 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 20:25:58
August 09 2011 20:25 GMT
#4329
On August 10 2011 05:18 FliedLice wrote:
As if some chinese underground mmo farming cartel cared about US laws


whether or not they care wont matter, Chinese laws on fraud are much worse you think that just because they are in a different country they are not going to be arrested or jailed? many if not all Chinese farmers are part of a forced labor program from the prisons not bots or programs running... this is a legal form of fraud.

Do some research.
Randomize the world, and Life shall be given.
Puph
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
August 09 2011 20:27 GMT
#4330
On August 10 2011 05:18 FliedLice wrote:
As if some chinese underground mmo farming cartel cared about US laws


Blizzard imposes 3 different taxes upon any Virtual-item-to-cash transaction and a limited number of Auction House slots per week. Where is your faith, young padawan?
Intel Dual Core 4400 @ ~2.00GHz / 2046MB RAM / 256 MB ATI Radeon x1300PRO
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 20:35:02
August 09 2011 20:32 GMT
#4331
On August 10 2011 05:25 Nazarid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 05:18 FliedLice wrote:
As if some chinese underground mmo farming cartel cared about US laws


whether or not they care wont matter, Chinese laws on fraud are much worse you think that just because they are in a different country they are not going to be arrested or jailed? many if not all Chinese farmers are part of a forced labor program from the prisons not bots or programs running... this is a legal form of fraud.

Do some research.


Wether it happens illegally in some shady backyard or "legally" in prison camps, where is the difference for us?

Well get the shitty gold spam anyway.



On August 10 2011 05:27 Puph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 05:18 FliedLice wrote:
As if some chinese underground mmo farming cartel cared about US laws


Blizzard imposes 3 different taxes upon any Virtual-item-to-cash transaction and a limited number of Auction House slots per week. Where is your faith, young padawan?


Well then they'll just do it the traditional way and sell their shit through their website and trade in a private game.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
August 09 2011 20:34 GMT
#4332
On August 10 2011 05:10 Nazarid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 04:38 NotSorry wrote:
On August 10 2011 04:36 bdictkam wrote:
So basicly the first person to make a private undetected bot, will cash in on alot of real money auctions?? How many programmers are already working on this .. lol..


No the first one to do it will sell the bot for crazy prices to farmers just like in every other game, who will then abuse the RMAH to make the money back.


Side note: Expect working bots before beta ends.



Well sure if a bot system pops up thats great... Not only will your account be closed if caught, you will be facing jail time because it is fraud. The smart ones with proxy's in place might escape the jail time but others wont.. you really think people will risk possible jail time just to fraud the auction system? most wont. If you think that it wont come down to getting arrested you are incorrect, you already can get jail time buy selling a WoW gold/accounts(multiple accounts) I know this to be a fact as a friend of mine got smacked with a Class C Felony(Internet fraud) he spent 6 months in prison for this and all he did was sell 4 WoW accounts that made over 2,000$.


You're clueless if you think the vast majority of people who bot/hack care or even know about this and even if they did it at best would stop 1 out of 100 if even that.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
August 09 2011 20:41 GMT
#4333
Of course there will be bots but it wont be as prevalent as in D2. I expect it to be similar to wow where people dedicated solely to farming will bot regardless but only a very small % of actual players bot. It wont be like d2 where everyone and their mother bots...I had 4 bots going at a time and never got any accounts closed/banned. I dont expect this to happen in D3
trainRiderJ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States615 Posts
August 09 2011 20:53 GMT
#4334
I don't think selling an item you got through the use of botting constitutes "fraud". You got the item, you sold the item for cash, you gave a person the item. There is no fraud committed in that transaction, especially since the item itself is legit. It's certainly against the D3 ToS but I don't think you would be committing any illegal act.

Selling a duped item, now that's probably fraud. Then I again I expect much better protection against duping this time around.

Somehow hacking the RMAH so that the buyer never gets the item or gets a different item, that's definitely fraud (among other things). However, I doubt that will be possible either.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
August 09 2011 21:03 GMT
#4335
just like wow, just use proxies and if the account gets banned you just claim you were hacked/keylogged and you'll have your account back in a few minutes
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
August 09 2011 21:24 GMT
#4336
On August 10 2011 04:38 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 04:36 bdictkam wrote:
So basicly the first person to make a private undetected bot, will cash in on alot of real money auctions?? How many programmers are already working on this .. lol..


No the first one to do it will sell the bot for crazy prices to farmers just like in every other game, who will then abuse the RMAH to make the money back.


Side note: Expect working bots before beta ends.


That's a pretty wild claim. Source?
Quote?
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 21:36:49
August 09 2011 21:36 GMT
#4337
On August 10 2011 06:24 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 04:38 NotSorry wrote:
On August 10 2011 04:36 bdictkam wrote:
So basicly the first person to make a private undetected bot, will cash in on alot of real money auctions?? How many programmers are already working on this .. lol..


No the first one to do it will sell the bot for crazy prices to farmers just like in every other game, who will then abuse the RMAH to make the money back.


Side note: Expect working bots before beta ends.


That's a pretty wild claim. Source?


Lets some say some communities are eagerly awaiting their PR beta copies and there is a very large price tag for getting out the first set of bots
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 21:40:21
August 09 2011 21:39 GMT
#4338
On August 10 2011 05:25 Nazarid wrote:


you think that just because they are in a different country they are not going to be arrested or jailed?

Do some research.

Are you honestly serious if you think that Blizzard has the influence to push the Chinese government to arrest GOLD FARMERS to the extent where you won't see spam bots/ads everywhere?
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
August 09 2011 21:51 GMT
#4339
On August 10 2011 06:36 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 06:24 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
On August 10 2011 04:38 NotSorry wrote:
On August 10 2011 04:36 bdictkam wrote:
So basicly the first person to make a private undetected bot, will cash in on alot of real money auctions?? How many programmers are already working on this .. lol..


No the first one to do it will sell the bot for crazy prices to farmers just like in every other game, who will then abuse the RMAH to make the money back.


Side note: Expect working bots before beta ends.


That's a pretty wild claim. Source?


Lets some say some communities are eagerly awaiting their PR beta copies and there is a very large price tag for getting out the first set of bots


Oh I get it, it's too dangerous to publicly state their name. Well I guess I have no choice but to believe you now.

Quote?
NotJack
Profile Joined December 2009
United States737 Posts
August 09 2011 21:56 GMT
#4340
On August 10 2011 06:51 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 06:36 NotSorry wrote:
On August 10 2011 06:24 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
On August 10 2011 04:38 NotSorry wrote:
On August 10 2011 04:36 bdictkam wrote:
So basicly the first person to make a private undetected bot, will cash in on alot of real money auctions?? How many programmers are already working on this .. lol..


No the first one to do it will sell the bot for crazy prices to farmers just like in every other game, who will then abuse the RMAH to make the money back.


Side note: Expect working bots before beta ends.


That's a pretty wild claim. Source?


Lets some say some communities are eagerly awaiting their PR beta copies and there is a very large price tag for getting out the first set of bots


Oh I get it, it's too dangerous to publicly state their name. Well I guess I have no choice but to believe you now.



There are gold farming bots for the most obscure f2p mmo's, how do you not think there is huge interest for Diablo fuckin 3?
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