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bdictkam
Canada155 Posts
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On August 10 2011 04:36 bdictkam wrote: So basicly the first person to make a private undetected bot, will cash in on alot of real money auctions?? How many programmers are already working on this .. lol.. No the first one to do it will sell the bot for crazy prices to farmers just like in every other game, who will then abuse the RMAH to make the money back. Side note: Expect working bots before beta ends. | ||
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
On August 10 2011 04:38 NotSorry wrote: No the first one to do it will sell the bot for crazy prices to farmers just like in every other game, who will then abuse the RMAH to make the money back. Side note: Expect working bots before beta ends. yeah I wonder what capcha type stuff they will have. I don't think they can possibly stop it, esp with how profitable it will be. | ||
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Puph
Canada635 Posts
On August 10 2011 04:38 NotSorry wrote: No the first one to do it will sell the bot for crazy prices to farmers just like in every other game, who will then abuse the RMAH to make the money back. Side note: Expect working bots before beta ends. Someone said this a hundred or so pages back comparing 'any other game' and blizzard's RMAH. This is going to be a Real Money* system where botting and hacking will be automatic grounds for fraud. If you expect tons of bots, I expect tons of bans and possibly a lawsuit. I imagine Blizzard is working very hard to nail hacks at the source with a sturdy system. Releasing the game before that time would be a horrible business move. In regards to botting/hacks, we must only hope we waited long enough. | ||
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DrBoo
Canada1177 Posts
On August 10 2011 04:54 Puph wrote: Someone said this a hundred or so pages back comparing 'any other game' and blizzard's RMAH. This is going to be a Real Money* system where botting and hacking will be automatic grounds for fraud. If you expect tons of bots, I expect tons of bans and possibly a lawsuit. I imagine Blizzard is working very hard to nail hacks at the source with a sturdy system. Releasing the game before that time would be a horrible business move. In regards to botting/hacks, we must only hope we waited long enough. Yup they've really nailed down all the hackers in Starcraft 2 as well... Demote that GrandMaster dude to Bronze that really showed him... Edit: Oh if you can't tell I have ZERO faith in Blizzard for dealing with hackers. | ||
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Nazarid
United States445 Posts
On August 10 2011 04:38 NotSorry wrote: No the first one to do it will sell the bot for crazy prices to farmers just like in every other game, who will then abuse the RMAH to make the money back. Side note: Expect working bots before beta ends. Well sure if a bot system pops up thats great... Not only will your account be closed if caught, you will be facing jail time because it is fraud. The smart ones with proxy's in place might escape the jail time but others wont.. you really think people will risk possible jail time just to fraud the auction system? most wont. If you think that it wont come down to getting arrested you are incorrect, you already can get jail time buy selling a WoW gold/accounts(multiple accounts) I know this to be a fact as a friend of mine got smacked with a Class C Felony(Internet fraud) he spent 6 months in prison for this and all he did was sell 4 WoW accounts that made over 2,000$. | ||
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DrBoo
Canada1177 Posts
On August 10 2011 05:10 Nazarid wrote: Well sure if a bot system pops up thats great... Not only will your account be closed if caught, you will be facing jail time because it is fraud. The smart ones with proxy's in place might escape the jail time but others wont.. you really think people will risk possible jail time just to fraud the auction system? most wont. If you think that it wont come down to getting arrested you are incorrect, you already can get jail time buy selling a WoW gold/accounts(multiple accounts) I know this to be a fact as a friend of mine got smacked with a Class C Felony(Internet fraud) he spent 6 months in prison for this and all he did was sell 4 WoW accounts that made over 2,000$. I read this good article earlier on TorrentFreak and figured it kind of resembles this issue. http://torrentfreak.com/and-when-even-the-death-penalty-doesnt-deter-copying-what-then-110807/ Essentially it says that back in older times (Medieval times) they used to put people through brutal torture then death for copyright stuff. It didn't stop people from copying patterns for clothing. I think the same kind of mentality still exists here. If you have a chance to get easy money from doing it with the "chance" of going to jail I don't think its going to really deter the people who do it as a profession. It might stop the Joe Average from doing it but it isn't going to stop the big fish who do it already in other games. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
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Nazarid
United States445 Posts
On August 10 2011 05:18 FliedLice wrote: As if some chinese underground mmo farming cartel cared about US laws whether or not they care wont matter, Chinese laws on fraud are much worse you think that just because they are in a different country they are not going to be arrested or jailed? many if not all Chinese farmers are part of a forced labor program from the prisons not bots or programs running... this is a legal form of fraud. Do some research. | ||
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Puph
Canada635 Posts
On August 10 2011 05:18 FliedLice wrote: As if some chinese underground mmo farming cartel cared about US laws Blizzard imposes 3 different taxes upon any Virtual-item-to-cash transaction and a limited number of Auction House slots per week. Where is your faith, young padawan? | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On August 10 2011 05:25 Nazarid wrote: whether or not they care wont matter, Chinese laws on fraud are much worse you think that just because they are in a different country they are not going to be arrested or jailed? many if not all Chinese farmers are part of a forced labor program from the prisons not bots or programs running... this is a legal form of fraud. Do some research. Wether it happens illegally in some shady backyard or "legally" in prison camps, where is the difference for us? Well get the shitty gold spam anyway. On August 10 2011 05:27 Puph wrote: Blizzard imposes 3 different taxes upon any Virtual-item-to-cash transaction and a limited number of Auction House slots per week. Where is your faith, young padawan? Well then they'll just do it the traditional way and sell their shit through their website and trade in a private game. | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On August 10 2011 05:10 Nazarid wrote: Well sure if a bot system pops up thats great... Not only will your account be closed if caught, you will be facing jail time because it is fraud. The smart ones with proxy's in place might escape the jail time but others wont.. you really think people will risk possible jail time just to fraud the auction system? most wont. If you think that it wont come down to getting arrested you are incorrect, you already can get jail time buy selling a WoW gold/accounts(multiple accounts) I know this to be a fact as a friend of mine got smacked with a Class C Felony(Internet fraud) he spent 6 months in prison for this and all he did was sell 4 WoW accounts that made over 2,000$. You're clueless if you think the vast majority of people who bot/hack care or even know about this and even if they did it at best would stop 1 out of 100 if even that. | ||
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antelope591
Canada820 Posts
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trainRiderJ
United States615 Posts
Selling a duped item, now that's probably fraud. Then I again I expect much better protection against duping this time around. Somehow hacking the RMAH so that the buyer never gets the item or gets a different item, that's definitely fraud (among other things). However, I doubt that will be possible either. | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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PepperoniPiZZa
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
On August 10 2011 04:38 NotSorry wrote: No the first one to do it will sell the bot for crazy prices to farmers just like in every other game, who will then abuse the RMAH to make the money back. Side note: Expect working bots before beta ends. That's a pretty wild claim. Source? | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
Lets some say some communities are eagerly awaiting their PR beta copies and there is a very large price tag for getting out the first set of bots | ||
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GARO
United States2255 Posts
On August 10 2011 05:25 Nazarid wrote: you think that just because they are in a different country they are not going to be arrested or jailed? Do some research. Are you honestly serious if you think that Blizzard has the influence to push the Chinese government to arrest GOLD FARMERS to the extent where you won't see spam bots/ads everywhere? | ||
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PepperoniPiZZa
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
On August 10 2011 06:36 NotSorry wrote: Lets some say some communities are eagerly awaiting their PR beta copies and there is a very large price tag for getting out the first set of bots Oh I get it, it's too dangerous to publicly state their name. Well I guess I have no choice but to believe you now. | ||
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NotJack
United States737 Posts
On August 10 2011 06:51 PepperoniPiZZa wrote: Oh I get it, it's too dangerous to publicly state their name. Well I guess I have no choice but to believe you now. There are gold farming bots for the most obscure f2p mmo's, how do you not think there is huge interest for Diablo fuckin 3? | ||
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