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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
On January 05 2017 10:58 nayumi wrote: Chapter 13 is one of the most disgusting thing I've had to endure. I was way more frustrated by the bonus dungeons where you couldn't seemingly even save, spent about 5 hours in the platforming one. Adamantoise was a real snore too but only took an hour for me, definitely a miscalculation from whoever decided to include that. Ridiculous amount of hit points alone don't make for a cool fight. | ||
lestye
United States4149 Posts
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saocyn
United States937 Posts
Summary: Pros - Absolutely love the game, and the way it seemlessly flows. you just go, go, go, with very little load screens. - tetsuya nomura developed very likeable characters this time around, even if he ripped off of naruto. - first game ever that i've had 3 people in a 1 player squad move together so easily and flawlessly - In game party banter and chat for hours, i still hear new lines time to time with 160 hours of play - kingsglaive was exciting enough to be a feature film in my eyes, compared to alot of the films out nowadays, kingslaive was enticing start to finish. - Idle animation was like nothing i've ever seen before, at first i hated the movement, but then i realized, it adds such realism to the characters and makes them feel almost real. - the car feature is very cool, but manually was..anything but manual. flying made up for it though but even then, not being able to land wherever you desired defeats the purpose. Cons (i'm done beating a dead horse with the plot cons, so i'll name a few game ones) - outside of the game not being large enough despite rumors of it being significantly larger than any other game - there needs to be more variety for npcs outside of the very basic, food shop, gas station shop, restaurant - outposts don't fit all of civilization, there needs to be housing and other cities etc. - driving didn't improve, it just looked better. if anyone has played sleeping dogs, the cars and driving is simply atrocious. and it felt like square attempted to make streets with merely single lanes to cover this fact up. | ||
Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
I can't play. Any idea why? edit: Nevermind. manual killed the games process in the main screen then restarted it. Can play now | ||
nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT, sell your engine blade because you will never get it back unless you restart the game (or New Game+). The extra bucks ain't worth it because the sword is upgradable to be come his second best weapon. Don't make the mistake that I did. | ||
Duka08
3391 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Before I stopped playing for a while I had just arrived at Altissia and rested in the inn or whatever, pretty much. Chapter 9? First thing I did when I played again was the conversation with the secretary lady. Starting with the fight with Leviathan it's like the game/story took a hard left turn. The fight itself is weird but I guess the other fights with the summons/gods up to then were weird too so that's whatever. But the whole cutscene after the fight and the "weeks later" on the train stuff... Everything feels totally different. I was actually mostly on board with the story until this point, despite hearing mixed opinions, and then out of nowhere it starts to feel forced/unnatural/rushed. Weird as hell. Really threw me off. I haven't watched the anime/movie or whatever, not sure if that matters. I get that they wanted Luna's death to be a shock even though we barely know the character since we've spent the whole game just chasing her down until that point, I'm guessing the backstory would probably give that more impact. But then the overly gloomy mood of the whole party after they battle the army(?), which we never saw because we were fighting Leviathan, and the sudden tension between Glad and Noct on the train. It's just really fucking bizarre. Between this and all the ominous horror stories about "Chapter 13" I'm kind of put off of the game now lol. Does it get back on the rails at some point or should I wait half a year for the mystical free DLC to pad it out. | ||
Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
On January 15 2017 15:45 Duka08 wrote: Ok so I'm just picking it back up after about two weeks due to busy times and getting bored of the combat a bit. Felt like getting back into it and focusing more on the main missions instead of sidetracking forever. Some thoughts for those that have played most of the game... + Show Spoiler + Before I stopped playing for a while I had just arrived at Altissia and rested in the inn or whatever, pretty much. Chapter 9? First thing I did when I played again was the conversation with the secretary lady. Starting with the fight with Leviathan it's like the game/story took a hard left turn. The fight itself is weird but I guess the other fights with the summons/gods up to then were weird too so that's whatever. But the whole cutscene after the fight and the "weeks later" on the train stuff... Everything feels totally different. I was actually mostly on board with the story until this point, despite hearing mixed opinions, and then out of nowhere it starts to feel forced/unnatural/rushed. Weird as hell. Really threw me off. I haven't watched the anime/movie or whatever, not sure if that matters. I get that they wanted Luna's death to be a shock even though we barely know the character since we've spent the whole game just chasing her down until that point, I'm guessing the backstory would probably give that more impact. But then the overly gloomy mood of the whole party after they battle the army(?), which we never saw because we were fighting Leviathan, and the sudden tension between Glad and Noct on the train. It's just really fucking bizarre. Between this and all the ominous horror stories about "Chapter 13" I'm kind of put off of the game now lol. Does it get back on the rails at some point or should I wait half a year for the mystical free DLC to pad it out. My thoughts are if you want to understand the unfinished plot you should have watched Kingsglaive, and even then there are some holes even if you 100% everything. In 1-2 years they seem to be adding patches to the game, not DLC, patches that will add more cutscenes and fix some holes in the story to make you understand what's going on better. + Show Spoiler + Did you miss that Ignis is blind and Gladio blames Noctis for it? The DLC is probably going to be content for when the characters leave your party. Finally, the game messes up a lot of plot, such as hyping up Luna's existence while never getting players to understand and empathize with her plight. However, this was extremely obviously done as a cover up because FFXV was given a strict 3 year timeframe after 7 years in development hell and it's clear that A LOT of content was cut to make a singular story coherent, which the director decided would be the story of 4 friends bonding in their travels, which was perfectly done in my opinion. But this gets entangled with actual plot, like Luna dying, and doesn't excuse the poor substories, such as Gladio being pissy with Noctis about Ignis and not really giving a good reason why Gladio was so bad. Also it's the opinion of a lot of people that the combat more than makes up for a lot of grievances. + Show Spoiler + Super endgame spoilers + Show Spoiler + My wishlist for patches is really visiting Tenebrae, really visiting Insomnia, and having the whole night world be explorable in end game, including Lestellum, revisiting Iris and such. They'll be adding Aranea and Iris? as party members later on? so that'll be neat. | ||
Duka08
3391 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Did you miss that Ignis is blind and Gladio blames Noctis for it? The DLC is probably going to be content for when the characters leave your party. Finally, the game messes up a lot of plot, such as hyping up Luna's existence while never getting players to understand and empathize with her plight. However, this was extremely obviously done as a cover up because FFXV was given a strict 3 year timeframe after 7 years in development hell and it's clear that A LOT of content was cut to make a singular story coherent, which the director decided would be the story of 4 friends bonding in their travels, which was perfectly done in my opinion. But this gets entangled with actual plot, like Luna dying, and doesn't excuse the poor substories, such as Gladio being pissy with Noctis about Ignis and not really giving a good reason why Gladio was so bad. Also it's the opinion of a lot of people that the combat more than makes up for a lot of grievances. + Show Spoiler + This all makes the most sense. I either missed Gladio being upset specifically about Ignis / blaming Noctis, or just haven't heard that yet. I know Ignis is blind(ed) but didn't draw the connection. Gladio just starts yelling about the ring and Noctis being a bitch, right after we get a "several weeks later" splash screen lol. It was such a dramatic shift out of nowhere that it caught me off guard and I didn't play much after the train parks. It'll probably iron out a bit in the next chapter or two. I fully understand the story or narrative suffering as a result of deadlines and development hell. In fact I heard so much about that beforehand and expected a lot worse going in. I was pretty surprised by how fine it was up until about this point, where the cracks might just be starting to show. I don't have very high expectations for the story when it comes to these games, I was just surprised by how relatively tight it was for the first half(ish?) and suddenly getting sloppy. I didn't really want to go that far out of my way to find a way to watch Kingsglaive but I might now. | ||
Duka08
3391 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + It wasn't as bad as I expected from all the horror stories? Just really long. Different, for sure, but that's not unprecedented for FF games is it? Chunks where you do something unusual or unlike anything else in the game. Yeah, it was fine, just really long. Not a big deal considering my save is ~40 hours deep. I can imagine it being ridiculous if you were just booking it through the story missions only. The flash forward 10 years surprised me though. Question: is the "end game" stuff people discuss an actual end game in the sense that I can finish the story and then everything opens up and new items or bosses or whatever appear? Or is the "end game" just using Umbra to go back in time and doing all the things that you were way underleveled for back then? Is the final boss a hard stop (which, to my memory, happens a lot in FF games), or does the world persist after you finish the main story? | ||
lestye
United States4149 Posts
The former. It's not a hard stop. It asks you to save after you're done and you appear right before last boss. Then u can use lumbra to go back to the old world where the challenge /endgame is. | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On January 16 2017 17:00 Duka08 wrote: Well I'm through Chapter 13.. + Show Spoiler + It wasn't as bad as I expected from all the horror stories? Just really long. Different, for sure, but that's not unprecedented for FF games is it? Chunks where you do something unusual or unlike anything else in the game. Yeah, it was fine, just really long. Not a big deal considering my save is ~40 hours deep. I can imagine it being ridiculous if you were just booking it through the story missions only. The flash forward 10 years surprised me though. Question: is the "end game" stuff people discuss an actual end game in the sense that I can finish the story and then everything opens up and new items or bosses or whatever appear? Or is the "end game" just using Umbra to go back in time and doing all the things that you were way underleveled for back then? Is the final boss a hard stop (which, to my memory, happens a lot in FF games), or does the world persist after you finish the main story? + Show Spoiler + its a little bit of the first two. you can go back and do a bunch of sidequests you didn't do before, and there's a couple new NPC's, quests and new item spawn locations. | ||
Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
Reading through some past comments this has already gotten a lot of attention, but given that the story is the main thing I play Final Fantasy games for, I was left rather unimpressed. I watched the movie and the anime, but yes, there are holes coupled with odd pacing, especially in the later half. The story itself also seemed rather short. You can spend an awful lot of time in the game running around doing random things, but when focused on the story alone it felt like it lacked content compared to past FF games. I was also disappointed in all the menial sidequests and hunts. Go here, fetch this. Go there, kill that. It's like they put generic MMORPG quests into a single player RPG. Some of them were decent and offered some relevant backstory to the world or characters, but a lot also did not. Accumulating exp only to have it allocated when resting felt awkward and unnecessary. Chapter 13 + Show Spoiler + The imperial emperor dude gets the crystal, but he needs the ring. Then you get to the imperial capital expecting a huge resistance but suddenly there is some crazy virus going around turning everyone into demons? That was so damn weird and a bit anti-climatic. The whole big bad world conquering imperial army just disappeared. Luna & Noctis + Show Spoiler + I never bought into the Luna x Noctis relationship. I know they were friends as kids and had some intertwined destiny, but beyond that I was never convinced of the affection between the two of them. They could have done so much better with that star-crossed lovers plot. It needed more backstory or interactions between the two of them, but once you meet Luna she dies. There was no time for the player to see or build a connection between them. Pretty disappointing because I really honestly wanted to be invested in it, like the final scene of the game with Noctis and Luna on the throne could have been super sweet, but ultimately I was just like "Oh, so they ended up together in the afterlife or something I guess." Bleh The combat was fun and felt very smooth and fluid. I wasn't reaalllyy a fan of the crafting magic system, but it wasn't terrible. The open world was absolutely gorgeous and is imo the best thing about the game. I really enjoyed exploring it and seeing the different locales. Overall I think the game had a lot of potential but ended up falling a bit flat on the story & core content side. p.s. I can't believe that Cup Noodles stuff made it into the game. p.p.s. was looking into stuff about the games story and came across this reddit comment(spoiler warning) which elaborates on my gripes with the story in better detail. | ||
Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
I don't have a PS4 and avoided all spoilers and got it for steam (thanks people who buy PUBG loot boxes) on day 1. And honestly it's way better than I expected. It's kinda blowing me away. The controls with keyboard and mouse are amazing and the game plays and looks great. I like the roadtrip with the 4 boys way better than I thought (currently in chapter 7). The only bug I had so far is that my FPS will drop to 27 after I summon Ramuh and it will not go back up without a restart of the game. Otherwise I am happy to say that I can play the game with 50-60 FPS on my 1060 6GB on 1080p, high settings and Nvidia turf effects on. | ||
Sermokala
United States13811 Posts
On March 10 2018 07:52 Musicus wrote: So who is playing the Windows Edition? I don't have a PS4 and avoided all spoilers and got it for steam (thanks people who buy PUBG loot boxes) on day 1. And honestly it's way better than I expected. It's kinda blowing me away. The controls with keyboard and mouse are amazing and the game plays and looks great. I like the roadtrip with the 4 boys way better than I thought (currently in chapter 7). The only bug I had so far is that my FPS will drop to 27 after I summon Ramuh and it will not go back up without a restart of the game. Otherwise I am happy to say that I can play the game with 50-60 FPS on my 1060 6GB on 1080p, high settings and Nvidia turf effects on. The games werid on alt tabbing. I don't understand how this game was ported like this but its really a meh. I'm really shocked too about how much I'm enjoying it. Its not great but its really good. It takes a lot from 12 and the 13's to make something pretty good. I'm pretty unhappy about the lack of controlled progression and a party system but It delivers on a simple story with simple themes. Its definitely something to give you hope for the next few games like KH3 and FF16. | ||
Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On March 10 2018 15:20 Sermokala wrote: The games werid on alt tabbing. I don't understand how this game was ported like this but its really a meh. I'm really shocked too about how much I'm enjoying it. Its not great but its really good. It takes a lot from 12 and the 13's to make something pretty good. I'm pretty unhappy about the lack of controlled progression and a party system but It delivers on a simple story with simple themes. Its definitely something to give you hope for the next few games like KH3 and FF16. When I alt tab it goes from full screen to windowed mode, kinda weird for sure. Also another small thing I have to criticise is that we can't use the mouse freely on the map. The I,J,K,L thing is annoying, but hopefully they can fix this in a patch. But year overall this game definitely gives me hope for future Square games and even better PC ports. | ||
Glacierz
United States1244 Posts
Can someone explain to me how the summon works? Aside from meeting certain conditions, it is pretty much RNG? | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
I really enjoyed my time with FFXV for reasons I cannot really explain. The game is an unfinished mess that has some really compelling gameplay and mechanics. I found myself really enjoying driving between areas and using that time to buy items and other housekeeping parts of the game. I wish more games would go to that type of travel where I can just kick back and enjoy the world they built while updating some item lists. The combat was weirdly enjoyable and I liked how it moved when it worked. When it didn’t work, it was this nightmare of me getting knocked over and spamming heal. The story is some hot garbage that makes no sense with the themes in the game and you running around in Middle America as filtered through Japan. And everyone in that weird middle America could give two shits about a prince who might be part god or something(?) showing up to order food at a diner. | ||
Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
On March 13 2018 00:39 Plansix wrote: Disclaimer: I love kinda busted games that are also weird. I really enjoyed my time with FFXV for reasons I cannot really explain. The game is an unfinished mess that has some really compelling gameplay and mechanics. I found myself really enjoying driving between areas and using that time to buy items and other housekeeping parts of the game. I wish more games would go to that type of travel where I can just kick back and enjoy the world they built while updating some item lists. The combat was weirdly enjoyable and I liked how it moved when it worked. When it didn’t work, it was this nightmare of me getting knocked over and spamming heal. The story is some hot garbage that makes no sense with the themes in the game and you running around in Middle America as filtered through Japan. And everyone in that weird middle America could give two shits about a prince who might be part god or something(?) showing up to order food at a diner. I wish I felt the same. I played 2 hours and haven't picked it up since. I don't like real-time combat in FF. It's not fun for me. | ||
Glacierz
United States1244 Posts
On March 13 2018 00:39 Plansix wrote: The story is some hot garbage that makes no sense with the themes in the game and you running around in Middle America as filtered through Japan. And everyone in that weird middle America could give two shits about a prince who might be part god or something(?) showing up to order food at a diner. Lol... Not to mention there's an entire sidequest for getting toppings for cup noodles. The dialogue is just a hilarious commercial. The plot is incredibly hard to understand even with all the movies/DLC content, I had to go read a bunch of background stuff to understand what happened. I did appreciate the complexity of the villain in this game though. I think the game would be so much better if Aranea was a playable character. | ||
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