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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 04:25:25
September 23 2010 04:24 GMT
#19621
lol. So I'm team captain with first ban. I ban kog, they ban taric and vlad. I then ban shen so i can get either amumu or garen. 1st pick for them= Mf. I grab garen, and our second proceeds to grab kayle. their next pics= sona and amumu. ours= rammus and anivia. their final= soraka and akali. Our last picks revive teemo, takes mid, and proceeds to die twice to mf, who gets a sword of the occult, ganks bottom and gets the rammus and anivia. long story short, we get crushed. After the game our teemo then proceeds to blame me for not banning mf and sona and letting them get so many heals.

I hate solo que.

edit, Kayle ended 1-7, rammus 1-6, anivia about the same, and revive teemo ends 4-8.
I end 3-4 because mf scaled damage faster than i could get health and armor.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
September 23 2010 04:28 GMT
#19622
On September 23 2010 13:18 Balzy wrote:
any vlad players have an opinion on spirit visage? the passive seems like it could be pretty sweet. gonna try it in a few, just wanna know what you guys thought.

edit: i can't spell...


I don't really see much of a point in Spirit Visage. You can get a Haunting Guise for a bit more and get Magic Pen and some extra healing on Transfusion through extra AP, with the same HP boost. If I want Magic Resist I'm going to just get a Negatron to build into Abyssal Scepter, or even Force of Nature with a tanky build.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 23 2010 04:37 GMT
#19623
The way I play vlad is to just rice up sorc boots and haunting guise in laning (very realistic since vlad doesn't really leave his lane), and then start carrying. Rylai and Zhonya comes after.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
September 23 2010 04:39 GMT
#19624
On September 23 2010 12:42 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 12:38 renixian wrote:
How exactly are you guys checking your elo?

Is this site accurate? http://www.jmccaffrey.net/check_elo.php

Says I'm 1729 but that just doesn't seem right?


no its a joke lol


For instance, anvdkaSNVal's ELO is 2477.


Twitch is REALLY hard to play well, but I like being a ranged carry now and then. It's so different from my normal style.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 23 2010 04:46 GMT
#19625
On September 23 2010 12:42 O-ops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 12:37 Jokey665 wrote:
On September 23 2010 12:29 shawster wrote:
spraying on 5 guys is probably the best feeling


...


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 05:09:33
September 23 2010 04:55 GMT
#19626
[image loading]


ya man

o shit riot making it so that you can't have a shit player on your team anymore and expect easy wins

well +130 it was nice knowing you (this account was made with the purpose of playing with shitty friends in mind)
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
September 23 2010 05:14 GMT
#19627
Okay so I am raging hard at some of the lag I'm getting. In some situations, I often see nearly 3000 ms lag spikes. Is this a problem on my end? I'm not making any use of the internet besides 2 people playing LoL. We're both getting lag spikes at the same time, is it our router or something or just a bad game server?

It doesn't happen all the time or even a lot of the time, but - for instance - today it happened every game I played in the evening.

I really honestly try to play a solid game every game and I feel terrible when a lag spike causes me to die in an apparently stupid and noobish manner. Is there something that I can do to prevent this?


=========
BEAR STANCE questions
=========

I know Lilballz doesn't do it, but does anyone build Wriggle's on Udyr? I've been just building pure tank items (HoG, Treads, Banshee's, Randuin's). I have to wait a long time to do dragon "safely", but I am a real noobie at jungling (only ever jungled with Yi).

Also Udyr owns teamfights even with 3000 ms lag.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
September 23 2010 05:25 GMT
#19628
On September 23 2010 14:14 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Okay so I am raging hard at some of the lag I'm getting. In some situations, I often see nearly 3000 ms lag spikes. Is this a problem on my end? I'm not making any use of the internet besides 2 people playing LoL. We're both getting lag spikes at the same time, is it our router or something or just a bad game server?

It doesn't happen all the time or even a lot of the time, but - for instance - today it happened every game I played in the evening.

I really honestly try to play a solid game every game and I feel terrible when a lag spike causes me to die in an apparently stupid and noobish manner. Is there something that I can do to prevent this?


=========
BEAR STANCE questions
=========

I know Lilballz doesn't do it, but does anyone build Wriggle's on Udyr? I've been just building pure tank items (HoG, Treads, Banshee's, Randuin's). I have to wait a long time to do dragon "safely", but I am a real noobie at jungling (only ever jungled with Yi).

Also Udyr owns teamfights even with 3000 ms lag.


wriggles isn't actually that bad, but i feel you need survivability to be a good udyr through mid game.

just get your teamates to help with dragon
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
September 23 2010 05:35 GMT
#19629
Also a huge chunk of Udyr's damage comes from magic, so life-steal isn't as effective on him, IMO :x
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
September 23 2010 05:40 GMT
#19630
Sona -- CDR or AP? What say thee =O, I'm thinkingggg CDR
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 23 2010 05:50 GMT
#19631
my god udyr bear stance makes me rage, its like a fucking 2 sec stun every 3 seconds
soooo gay
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 23 2010 06:05 GMT
#19632
On September 23 2010 13:05 SCC-Faust wrote:
As you probably know, being a top ELO player, Ashe is the most played champion pre-season 1.

For real though, there are no Ashe players in high Elo, the statistic is all the scrubs and lowbies.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 23 2010 06:12 GMT
#19633
On September 23 2010 14:40 Vei wrote:
Sona -- CDR or AP? What say thee =O, I'm thinkingggg CDR


There's no such thing as building a champ "CDR" vs "AP". Tbh, they're both good stats, but ultimately the only variation in your build is what final item you're making out of the money you get.

I.e. Are you making

-DFG for more teamwide burst, a little AP, some cdr?
-Zhonya for AP and a life-saving active?
-Locket for mana sustainability, some HP, and some CDR
-Frozen heart for mana, cdr
-Rod of ages for great value HP and AP
-Rylai for more snare
-Shurelyas for the team-wide ghost


If I were to consider sona`s role and her innately good damage, i would rule dfg out. I only like DFG on someone like veigar who can instagib people with it, or someone like janna who really appreciates extra nuking power and doesnèt need much else.

She has no escape and no real cc-that-comes-off-cooldown. She also doesnt get into the middle of anything, so Zhonya is out

Keep going in that manner until you find some item that makes sense for you.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 23 2010 07:20 GMT
#19634
On September 23 2010 12:21 myopia wrote:
getting clairvoyance on Ashe is like running TF with Teleport. It's like... why?


brooooooooooo

teleport panth/tf/shen is like one of the most synergistic spell/champ combos

i can't imagine running shen without teleport. SO MUCH MAP CONTROL. I'M FUCKING EVERYWHERE BITCH.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 23 2010 07:31 GMT
#19635
On September 23 2010 15:12 Juicyfruit wrote:
She has no escape and no real cc-that-comes-off-cooldown. She also doesnt get into the middle of anything, so Zhonya is out

You've never seen uta's Sona, huh?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
September 23 2010 07:32 GMT
#19636
I dunno if my Sona is good, I was experimenting with random shit because they were so bad and I farmed up a lot of stuff.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Pikachusc2
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada91 Posts
September 23 2010 07:50 GMT
#19637
On September 23 2010 07:46 Phrost wrote:
WHERE IS TEAMLIQUID TEAM!?!?!?!


we need teamliquid fighting in next major tournament imo


i would cheer you guys on!
i wouldnt mind being that lowclass member :O

i agree witht his ;p

WCG 2011 !
Losing is learning. winning is teaching
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 08:37:15
September 23 2010 08:20 GMT
#19638
On September 23 2010 08:27 ghen wrote:
http://eu.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=39737

Yohachhin's jungle tier list


Tier 1:
Olaf, Rammus, Udyr, Amumu, Akali, Warwick, Nunu

Tier 2:
Shaco, Fiddlesticks, Xin Zhao, Sona, Gragas, Nasus, Master Yi, Tryndamere, Shen

Tier 3:
Mordekaiser, Malphite, Sion, Pantheon, Cho'gath, Kayle, Karthus, Poppy, Ezreal, Jax, Singed, Morgana

Tier 4:
Mundo, Evelyn, Heimerdinger, Janna, Twitch, Urgot, Miss Fortune, Vladimir, Kog'maw, Kennen, Annie

Not viable for jungling:
Garen, Ryze, Blitzcrank, Corki, Anivia, Galio, Zilean, Veigar, Tristana, Teemo, Nidalee, Katarina, Kassadin, Gangplank, Ashe, Taric, Soraka, Malzahar

+ Show Spoiler +

T1: These champions have to jungle...they can jungle really fast due to their attacks, but they also have alot of survivability and abilities to gank.
With the buffs on the map they can simply do everything, spam, farm, push.
With smite they can easily kill the dragon early and farm it often.

T2: Same as T1 but mostly these champions have a little bit less survivability or damage or gankability. All around recommended for jungling.

T3: These champion proved to do good in jungling, but aren't really recommended, just if a single lane really is needed. They have the needed abilities but they need a little bit more skill to be jungled.

T4: These champions have the ability to jungle, not as well as the T1-T3 champs but mostly they will suceed, these champions lack of killing the dragon but are still able to kill the golems and lizards alot of times.
These champions aren't able to reach level 6 as fast as other champions but still they are able to keep up with the double lane.

+ Show Spoiler +
Smite is welcome in most cases and therefore it is recommended to use it.

Here is the jungler summoner spells tier list (as secondary spell):
1:
Exhaust, Ghost
2:
Flash, Ignite
3:
Ralley, Heal

depending on endgame people may use teleport/clarity

start to discuse guys


also ADDED: this list is mostly my opinion about jungling, some champions are better at laning which gives them lesser points...champions who really can jungle and do it better than laning like warwick and udyr are positioned high therefore...
people use some champ frequently for the jungle which makes him put higher...
these are points which i count in...as for example why olaf isnt tier 1 is just becouse 5 champions at tier one are good each other but olaf is just 1% worser than the others which makes him put down...still he is "leading" tier 2 which makes his role as "big daddy" of the common jungler...
i like to hear other opinions...but mostly this reflects my opinion + viability and competivity...
this can be updated daily...weekly...we will see


Change log:
-Morgana moved down in tier 3
-Poppy moved down in tier 3
-Mordekaiser moved up to tier 3
-Nunu moved to tier 1
-Olaf moved to top of tier 1
-Twitch moved to tier 4
-Ashe moved to not viable


Taric not viable? I thought he was ok-ish, especially since his ganks aren't too bad with that 5 hour stun. Sure he's better on a lane, but not viable?



I believe that to make it out of "Elo hell" easily, you have to unite and lead your team. That's not a skill everyone has, and with some allies it still simply doesn't work. Even though I haven't played ranked still, I am sure that focusing on this is much more effective than trying to hardcarry your way out.

Wow, 1k bonus IP for server problems. Not even in the form of a per-win boost.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 23 2010 08:30 GMT
#19639
honestly, the only way i think i can get out of elo hell will be duo queueing. no idea why, but not only do i perform significantly better in duo queues, but my teammates seem to at least have some portion of their brain working properly. Ive basically given up soloing once i went from like 1475 then got stuck at 1100-1200 range... just gonna duo with ppl i guess. I dunno, i think i deserve at least a little bit higher than i am. Lol, told baikinman my solo queue elo and he was like O.o
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 23 2010 08:41 GMT
#19640
On September 23 2010 13:24 Two_DoWn wrote:
I then ban shen so i can get either amumu or garen.

Fail

Stop banning shen, he's already a bad champion.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
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