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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
September 23 2010 01:41 GMT
#19581
Guys you should play DPS carry Sona like my brother who is 100% pro and serious.
Build: Tear -> Sheen -> Shurelia's Firecrest or whatever -> Trinity Force -> Manamune -> Force of Nature. You will have crazy spam proc DPS! Her global cooldown synergizes PERFECTLY with Triforce! Most importantly, you will have all the movespeeds. ALL OF THEM.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
September 23 2010 01:43 GMT
#19582
On September 23 2010 10:12 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 09:55 Phrost wrote:
On September 23 2010 09:53 oberon wrote:
Does Sona's power chord passive thingy crit? If so, can she be played like critplank?


No, none of the "on next attack" modifiers can crit, this includes Siphon Strike, Devastating Blow, Kennen's charged Shuriken, Ki-Strike, Pick-a-Card, etc.

Some of those abilities the normal attack damage can crit but not the extra damage (I know devastating blow and siphon strike's normal damage component can crit)


That's a shame. Would've opened up a fun offbeat build. Instead she's just support, and only support. Lame.

Sheen-based AP builds can be used if you want her to do damage, but really she's a nice support and an alternative to janna and taric, I don't mind that.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 01:58:22
September 23 2010 01:55 GMT
#19583
derp derp, thanks for all the obvious and insightful responses to my post guys

anyways, another low 900's game, another 20 stacks and easy win which i hope i quit early enough not to receive. and what do you know in THIS game, our mordekaiser won his lane, and i won my lane. 2 lane wins = a shot at winning.

the opposing TF was claiming that we were all playing "noob easy shit OP champs" by the likes of annie, taric, mf, morgana, and mordekaiser lol. he then claimed that he (and remember this is at 900 elo) was a 1450-ranked player. when confronted by his team as to why he was playing in this particular game, he corrected himself to say that he was "1450 arranged 3-man, 1350 arranged 5-man." i got a good laugh out of it and told him that his friends are carrying him and he told me that he was 19-0 with kogmaw. i didn't point out the irony in him calling annie op but playing kogmaw himself.



anyways, away from the elo discussion and onto annie... i think she transitions really really nicely into a stunbot/tank at the end of the game. mejais into sorc boots into double RoA gives her godly amounts of HP, sell the sorc boots after you can't combo people to death any more and get mercs, build an aegis and a guardian angel, and with your E skill you're looking at 3.3k+ health with like 180 armor 160 defense and the ability to pop off stuns every couple of seconds and provide a decent defensive aura for your team. void staff if you want those to hit harder

err.. and your taunt is the fact that you still have 20 stacks on your mejais so they're forced to focus you even though you're not really doing damage any more.

just a thought \o/
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 23 2010 01:59 GMT
#19584
obv you need advice you 900 elo noob


+ Show Spoiler +
go DPS Annie at least one of these games
it's my first day
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 23 2010 02:02 GMT
#19585
okay i'll do that next game, gimme a build to follow though
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Jazriel
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada404 Posts
September 23 2010 02:03 GMT
#19586
On September 23 2010 07:34 SCC-Faust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 07:33 Jazriel wrote:
On September 23 2010 07:06 SCC-Faust wrote:
Overall it should even out for the average person.



You're an idiot.


Because you're stuck at 1200 ELO?

How about explaining how I'm wrong instead of coming off as a moron.


This isn't particularly important. I'm simply replying to the idiocy of some scrub online. Though if you want to learn of the relevancy of ELO/PSR you can read the last paragraph should you please.



+ Show Spoiler +
"Stuck"?

Great way to make an assumption and be even more retarded. I can hardly believe you took the time to look up my ELO. What, do you think that means anything? I need to spend my precious time getting lucky by not having feeding teammates to have an opinion that's worth anything?

My ELO is 1200 because I'm assuming that's the starting ELO. I don't play ranked, I have real life friends I screw around with in normal games.

You're an idiot because you don't understand this game.

MOBA's are games of "perfect numbers." For someone with your intelligence, I should clarify: I don't mean literally numbers that are somehow magical. I mean that MOBA's are extremely predictable based on their finite sequences of numbers. My team has a jungler, yours does not. Chances of my team winning increase. My team is 5 carries, your team is 5 supports. Chances of my team winning increase. Et cetera.

Rock Paper Scissors is a game of "perfect numbers." The value of Rock will always beat the value of Scissors.

You can play all you want, you can be as good as you want, you can use all the irrational math you want. The success of any particular player in solo que is more dependant on luck than nearly anything else. Sure, skill will see that player through more wins than if they were less skilled. I win plenty of games because I'm simply tired of my terrible teammates and my incredible knowledge of human psychology tells me that if you lead, idiots will follow. So I simply tell them what the correct thing to do is and they do it. Then we win.


You're an idiot because you made the most stereotypical garbage low-intelligence post ever. "You're not a high ELO solo que because you're bad." Completely ridiculous. So ridiculous in fact, that I'm not going to argue any further. In the early stages of HoN beta this argument was seen a lot due to the methodical tracking of PSR. In the end, PSR is only a valid short-term measurement system. Meaning that only in a non-specific short amount of time does the number have any relevance to a players skill. I was near 1700 PSR, then I hit a 2 week losing streak and found my way to 1340. 2 weeks later I was again almost 1700 PSR. Only a fucking moron like yourself would look at the few days I was 1340 and think that was a genuine reflection of my actual skill level or that I somehow deserved to be at that level due to anything I actually did.


User was temp banned for this post.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 02:07:00
September 23 2010 02:04 GMT
#19587
I hate skimming this thread and people giving out awful advice.

Please don't give out advice if you're not very good

At least be lvl 30 T_T

edit: Like the guy above me, please don't listen to his flash/clairvoyance Ashe build that he posted earlier.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 23 2010 02:07 GMT
#19588
On September 23 2010 11:02 gtrsrs wrote:
okay i'll do that next game, gimme a build to follow though


What're Annie's cooldowns like? You could go like ghostblade-brutalizer-triforce. Start with a d-blade or two for lifesteal.
it's my first day
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 23 2010 02:11 GMT
#19589
On September 23 2010 11:07 myopia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 11:02 gtrsrs wrote:
okay i'll do that next game, gimme a build to follow though


What're Annie's cooldowns like? You could go like ghostblade-brutalizer-triforce. Start with a d-blade or two for lifesteal.


her Q cooldown is like 3 seconds, W is like 4, E is 15, R is 60 (ish)
her attack speed is like... 0.634 though at game start

i was thinking boots into zerkers into zeal before attack items so i can actually get some attacks off
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 02:13:56
September 23 2010 02:12 GMT
#19590
On September 23 2010 11:02 gtrsrs wrote:
okay i'll do that next game, gimme a build to follow though

imo go triple snowball cho since you're stuck there, you get an automatic kill every minute and you will be walking around their base with your air of invulnerability.

EDIT: BESTEST ITEM IDEA EVER: SNOWBALL BOOTS. You heard it here first.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 02:17:05
September 23 2010 02:15 GMT
#19591
ima streaming mah games, dont bitch about the music.

livestream.com/phrostsgaming for people too lazy to check op
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 23 2010 02:16 GMT
#19592
On September 23 2010 11:12 r33k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 11:02 gtrsrs wrote:
okay i'll do that next game, gimme a build to follow though

imo go triple snowball cho since you're stuck there, you get an automatic kill every minute and you will be walking around their base with your air of invulnerability.


triple snowball is really, really hard because that's like 4k gold to farm all those items before you actually get any real stats

On September 23 2010 11:12 r33k wrote:
EDIT: BESTEST ITEM IDEA EVER: SNOWBALL BOOTS. You heard it here first.


actually i hate to bust your bubble but i posted the same concept like 400 pages back haha. i said it would be the most powerful item in the game, hands down, even if it gave minimal movespeed for each kill \o/
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 23 2010 02:17 GMT
#19593
On September 23 2010 11:11 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 11:07 myopia wrote:
On September 23 2010 11:02 gtrsrs wrote:
okay i'll do that next game, gimme a build to follow though


What're Annie's cooldowns like? You could go like ghostblade-brutalizer-triforce. Start with a d-blade or two for lifesteal.


her Q cooldown is like 3 seconds, W is like 4, E is 15, R is 60 (ish)
her attack speed is like... 0.634 though at game start

i was thinking boots into zerkers into zeal before attack items so i can actually get some attacks off


well zeal does build into triforce


20 stacks on sword of the occult is pretty hilarious too
it's my first day
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 02:21:24
September 23 2010 02:21 GMT
#19594
Miss Fortune
Twitch
Warwick
Shen
Singed

vs

Ezreal
Morgana
Shaco
Sion
Mordekaiser


currently 1605 solo queue
livestream.com/phrostsgaming
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
September 23 2010 02:35 GMT
#19595
So is Spirit Visage WW legit?
Whaaaa?
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 02:46:58
September 23 2010 02:46 GMT
#19596
lol phrost got baron stolen from him

doing really well otherwise
it's my first day
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 23 2010 02:51 GMT
#19597
On September 23 2010 11:16 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 11:12 r33k wrote:
On September 23 2010 11:02 gtrsrs wrote:
okay i'll do that next game, gimme a build to follow though

imo go triple snowball cho since you're stuck there, you get an automatic kill every minute and you will be walking around their base with your air of invulnerability.


triple snowball is really, really hard because that's like 4k gold to farm all those items before you actually get any real stats

Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 11:12 r33k wrote:
EDIT: BESTEST ITEM IDEA EVER: SNOWBALL BOOTS. You heard it here first.


actually i hate to bust your bubble but i posted the same concept like 400 pages back haha. i said it would be the most powerful item in the game, hands down, even if it gave minimal movespeed for each kill \o/

i klike triple snowball vs bots
so fun >_>
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
September 23 2010 02:52 GMT
#19598
On September 23 2010 05:56 gtrsrs wrote:
i think scc faust is wrong

unless you have some MONSTER teamfight team (i won a 3v5 with galio/amumu/pirate once), the game is decided in the Pplaning phase. honestly. here's how it works in my experience

there's 3 lanes and a jungle. you need to win at least 2 of those to have a fighting shot at winning the game. you take solo top: your mid gives up first blood and gets zoned from level 2, your bottom pushes the tower too hard and gets double ganked by their jungler, your jungler waits til level 6 to gank without buffs and fails the gank. you can go 5-0 in that lane and you'll still lose the game because you lost 2 lanes and the jungle.

you take the jungle. before you even grab red and get a chance to gank, your bottom lane tries to towerdive kayle and she ends up with a double kill. mid lane is pushed too far for you to gank, and you can't find their jungler until he pops up top and ganks your lane. you can grab dragon every 7 minutes and steal his buffs for the rest of the game, *it won't matter* you "lost" all 3 lanes

these things happen *frequently* at low levels (1100-1300), and there's nothing you can do about it. most players don't know how to slow a snowballing team that gets a tower and a double kill and then just proceeds to take both of the other outer towers while your team shits themselves in terror and bitches to each other. while i agree completely that bitching at your team doesn't help at all, NOT bitching doesn't help either, because bad players will always make the same mistakes over and over

i had more typed but i'm looking like a ranting dick so i will just stop


I agree with this. I main a jungler and solo ranked low elo was horrible. Soo much so I wasn't prepared to crawl my way out and went back to unranked where ive already got to the point where ppl have an idea of whats going on.

That and I think not many ppl are prepared to mass game their way to where they belong and so end up complaining a lot.
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
September 23 2010 02:56 GMT
#19599
On September 23 2010 11:35 Misder wrote:
So is Spirit Visage WW legit?


Seems alright but I keep forgetting to build it lol opting for veil instead. Will test more. (and try to get they recommended item changer working again)
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
September 23 2010 03:04 GMT
#19600
On September 23 2010 11:46 myopia wrote:
lol phrost got baron stolen from him

doing really well otherwise


dumbass warwick didnt smite it, ezreal's auto attack stole it
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
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