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On June 24 2010 10:32 nataziel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2010 09:03 ghen wrote:On June 24 2010 08:35 nataziel wrote:
The jungle camps are all marked in game, and they're mirrored on either side of the river too (except for dragon/baron). Just jump in a practice game and play around for a while. Learn the locations of the blue/red buffs, wraiths and the other two camps alternate (or is it random) between golems and wolves See, that would be a lot easier to say with a JPG So you're saying I should log on, start a practice game, screenshot, edit the screenshot so it just shows the minimap, upload it then post it here when all you need to do is get off your lazy arse and start your own fucking practice game and learn more from that than a little fucking picture anyway? Or alternatively, let me google that for you! http://lmgtfy.com/?q=league of legends minimapGet a clue, and try and find things on your own instead of hoping someone spoonfeeds it to you. I was actually trying to help, so don't give me some bullshit about things being easier to say.
I already googled it extensively, don't get mad. What I'm asking for doesn't exist. And yes, I'm asking you to do it because I obviously can't as I don't know the spawning rules. If I did I wouldn't ask.
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-Removed the heal component from Essence Flux @_@
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Bleh another Soraka nerf.
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On June 24 2010 10:36 Southlight wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2010 09:26 HazMat wrote:On June 24 2010 09:20 Repok wrote:
you should be fear + dark wind not drain. umm.... i'm jungling, of course im going drain. Even with jungle you're supposed to not level drain. At most you get level 2, but you should really make do without.
This isn't 100% true. If your 1v2 is doing well, and your opponents don't seem interested in stopping you, you can go drain, do golem (level 2 -> crow), do small camp, do other side small camp (level 3 -> drain), lizard, enemy golem, then go around killing small camps/wraiths until you hit L5, taking L3 drain and L1 fear on the way. With L3 drain you can slowly but easily solo dragon, jungle to six, back to buy, then go ganking.
The major decision points are the second and third levels of drain. The more often your opponents go MIA, and the more trouble your 1v2 lane is having, the less likely each subsequent point is a good idea. Still, if this goes well (i.e. open tome, get dragon at L5, back to buy mejai, score double-gank with storm for 4 stacks) it can almost win the game on its own. I haven't counted, but I'd say I end up with level 1 drain 1/2 of the time, level 2 drain 1/3 of the time, and level 3 drain 1/6 of the time, approximately.
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On June 24 2010 11:24 radmax86 wrote:
-Removed the heal component from Essence Flux @_@
Wow. 100% -> 70% -> 50% -> 0%. That's a beating.
Ashe
Frost Shot no longer stacks with Volley
Enchanted Crystal Arrow
* Fixed a bug where it was slowing for too long at ranks 2 and 3
* Fixed a bug where it was stunning for more than the maximum stun duration
* Increased the distance required to get a maximum duration stun
So, about Ashe. No longer playable?
Evelynn
* Removed base dodge
Yes, an Eve nerf. Just what we needed...?
Summoner spells are now displayed on the scoreboard
HOORAY!
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Did the change to Pantheon nerf him, or should he be relatively the same?
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And why did they nerf my precious Mercury Treads. I don't want to run cleanse.
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On June 24 2010 12:20 myopia wrote:
And why did they nerf my precious Mercury Treads. I don't want to run cleanse.
It's so insignificant I don't know why they even bothered.
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New hero sounds lame and boring to play, but I guess I really won't know until the patch comes out. Their descriptions on abilities are awful.
Janna nerf = :D
Kayle nerf = :D
Shen nerf = :D (Although I probably doesn't change anything)
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On June 24 2010 12:27 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2010 12:20 myopia wrote:
And why did they nerf my precious Mercury Treads. I don't want to run cleanse. It's so insignificant I don't know why they even bothered.
aye it's nearly nothing but a nerf is still a nerf if it involves one of your core items :|
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Wow...veigar gets 10AP if he kills with his ult now...5 from the ult, and 5 from the new baleful strike.
Sword of the divine buff is nice imo.
Corki changes are just -shrug-
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On June 24 2010 11:23 ghen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2010 10:32 nataziel wrote:On June 24 2010 09:03 ghen wrote:On June 24 2010 08:35 nataziel wrote:
The jungle camps are all marked in game, and they're mirrored on either side of the river too (except for dragon/baron). Just jump in a practice game and play around for a while. Learn the locations of the blue/red buffs, wraiths and the other two camps alternate (or is it random) between golems and wolves See, that would be a lot easier to say with a JPG So you're saying I should log on, start a practice game, screenshot, edit the screenshot so it just shows the minimap, upload it then post it here when all you need to do is get off your lazy arse and start your own fucking practice game and learn more from that than a little fucking picture anyway? Or alternatively, let me google that for you! http://lmgtfy.com/?q=league of legends minimapGet a clue, and try and find things on your own instead of hoping someone spoonfeeds it to you. I was actually trying to help, so don't give me some bullshit about things being easier to say. I already googled it extensively, don't get mad. What I'm asking for doesn't exist. And yes, I'm asking you to do it because I obviously can't as I don't know the spawning rules. If I did I wouldn't ask.
I don't understand, your first post says you want to know the locations of the jungle spawns, it's clearly marked in game, I dunno how you could miss them... Look at this minimap that I googled up for you:
![[image loading]](http://www.zepowa.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/minimap.jpg)
Y'see the little skull and crossbones icons? That's where the jungle camps are. Now, to find out what spawns where you make a practice game and go look. The only information you really need is that the small camps (wraiths, golems and wolves) spawn when the ingame announcer says "minions have spawned". The wraiths only spawn in the camps closest to mid lane and wolves and golems randomly spawn in the other small camps The buff camps (Golem blue buff, lizard red buff) spawn at like 1:15 I think, about 10-15 seconds after the small camps spawn. Dragon spawns at like 2:00 (I think, not entirely sure you'll just have to verify yourself). Baron spawns at 11:00 (or is it 15:00?).
Dragon spawns in the little alcove off the river on the bottom/right side, and baron in the alcove on the top/left.
I assume this is what you wanted to know, but really it would have just been easier for you to boot up a practice game and see for yourself.
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Sorry for double post but OMG:
-Revamped the character stats screen to include Armor Penetration, Magic Penetration, Lifesteal, Spell Vamp, and Cooldown Reduction stats as well as reducing size and removing extraneous information
-Summoner spells are now displayed on the scoreboard
-Teleport or Blink abilities will no longer reset the leashing on monsters
Yes plz all over my face
-Champion kill experience increased by 10%.
I thought they were trying to balance farming and fighting? Still, will definitely make things more action packed but it's kinda a buff to the snowballing nature of the game.
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On June 24 2010 12:47 Juicyfruit wrote:
Wow...veigar gets 10AP if he kills with his ult now...5 from the ult, and 5 from the new baleful strike.
Sword of the divine buff is nice imo.
Corki changes are just -shrug-
No they removed the bonus from the Ulti kill. It's still only +5
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Don't see it, and don't see why they would do that.
Does veigar keep his AP ratio or is it now JUST 0.8AP from you, 0.8AP from enemy?
Because that's just a HUGE nerf to veigar then -_-
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On June 24 2010 06:06 GTR wrote:
With Kayle, which snowball item should I get, Mejai's or Occult?
Or is it worth sacrificing two item slots to get both?
This is considering the first four items I have are good enough for me to carry.
I'd go with Sword of the Occult. Kayle's heal is nice and all, but her one defining feature is using Righteous Fury + Guinsoo's Rageblade for massive damage, and with all the attack speed you have (should also have Berserker's Greaves), SotO provides more damage and just scales better. Her ult spell doesn't gain anything from AP, and any damage you may lose due to a weaker Reckoning will be peanuts compared to what you're gaining when whacking away with your autoattack- you only really lose out in a weaker heal, which is a shame, but you really shouldn't be building Kayle to maximize her heal.
Some champions, like Kat and Yi, have a legitimate choice in whether to go AP or AD- AD provides more sustained damage, while AP tends to give them better survivability and/or utility (Rod of Ages, Rylai's, Zhonya's Ring all provide good survivability on top of AP). Since Mejai's doesn't offer you any survivability, the choice is easy- get SotO for more AD and better sustained damage 
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pantheon essentially unchanged...
k...
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I dont get why they give weak champions buffs but then nerf other areas.
The gangplank buffs are shit, disappointing.
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On June 24 2010 13:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
Don't see it, and don't see why they would do that.
Does veigar keep his AP ratio or is it now JUST 0.8AP from you, 0.8AP from enemy?
Because that's just a HUGE nerf to veigar then -_-
Yes, i think the 80% of ap is in addition to his normal AP ratio because it replaces the bonus to mana champions but still makes him very potent against other casters (which was the original intent)
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