• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:18
CEST 14:18
KST 21:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors13[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists19[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers20Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】 Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group D Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Total Annihilation Server - TAForever
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread 3D technology/software discussion European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1853 users

League of Legends [New forum, check OP!] - Page 956

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 954 955 956 957 958 1431 Next
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
September 20 2010 22:20 GMT
#19101
On September 21 2010 07:16 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 07:13 Tooplark wrote:
Why does everyone say MR/Level instead of MR?
Why does everyone say flat armor instead of armor/level?
Just curious.


Because some per level runes catch up to flat runes faster than others

(ex. mp5 per level seals beat the flat mp5 runes at like level 5, but the cooldown reduction glyphs dont pass the flats until about 13)


i think hes referring to the fact that there is no alternative. I put it for clarity's sake
Brees on in
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
September 20 2010 22:25 GMT
#19102
Yeah, but MR and Armor catch up with MR/L and Armor/L at the same time, I believe. It's around level 10?
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
September 20 2010 22:27 GMT
#19103
On September 21 2010 03:35 Knix wrote:
Hi TL, I just recently started playing, username Knix. I only have the free weekly heroes but I want to buy one with the IG currency. I'm looking for a hero with a reasonably high skill cap who will be useful in most games, as I'd likely pick it every game. I've been looking at the hero list and I'm interested by kennen, olaf, gragas, gangplank, ezreal, vladimir and xin zhao. Are any of these good for what I'm looking for? If not, give me some suggestions.

Also, if I could get just a rough skill/item selection for the suggested hero I would appreciate it.

Thanks much,

Knix


Here's a "tier list" ranking of all the heroes by elementz:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=109533

I wouldn't use the list as a "ZOMG ONLY BUY TIER 1 HEROES" but I do like to refer back to it once in a while. Try out most/all the free heroes for the week and try to find one that you really enjoy playing, then go buy that hero. I've wasted a decent amount of points on supposed Tier 1 heroes that I suck at using and really isn't that much fun to play. I actually have a new policy on not buying heroes unless if I tested them out during the free week.
Cirn9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1117 Posts
September 20 2010 22:28 GMT
#19104
Because they use flat armour for jungling so it provides a greater benefit at low levels
Unprotected sex is like fast expanding in close positions. Its risky, but feels great when it works out
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 20 2010 22:32 GMT
#19105
Spell-damage is generally not very scary at the start of a game, especially if you're jungling or 2v2ing. Thus you have a lot more leeway early on with regards to the prevention of spell-based damage. On the other hand a significant amount of zoning occurs from attack damage-based skills or just auto-attacks in general. Also bear in mind that it's a lot easier (and cheaper) to buy chunks of armor as the game goes on. Thus, it's preferred to get flat armor for the early laning (or jungling) strength, while simultaneously favoring the more cost-effective (at late-game) mrpl runes.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
September 20 2010 22:33 GMT
#19106
Having slain the BALROG CHAUSTER, SOLOSIDE THE WHITE RETURNS.


Obviously had some help from ezpz.


SS OR IT NEVER HAPPENED? BUT IT DID.

[image loading]




Troll game is troll.
LoL: Taylor Swift | King Kayle
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
September 20 2010 23:13 GMT
#19107
Everyone seems to call Amumu a "tank". I don't really get this. His one damage mitigation ability is pretty bad. By the time he can really take a lot of damage, he can almost 1v5 hard carry. So why not call him a carry?
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
September 20 2010 23:16 GMT
#19108
if im shaco and im going to grab the golem at 1 is it better for me to place my boxes right behind the golem or on the other side of the wall behind the golem?
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
September 20 2010 23:21 GMT
#19109
On September 21 2010 08:13 oberon wrote:
Everyone seems to call Amumu a "tank". I don't really get this. His one damage mitigation ability is pretty bad. By the time he can really take a lot of damage, he can almost 1v5 hard carry. So why not call him a carry?

He initiates well, disables well and is enough of a threat to cause enemies to focus on him over other targets. Those are pretty much all the attributes you need to be a tank.
Writer
s_side
Profile Joined May 2009
United States700 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 23:37:54
September 20 2010 23:37 GMT
#19110
On September 21 2010 06:37 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 06:33 s_side wrote:
What tanks would you gentlemen recommend? I play mostly solo queue atm. I'm level 19, and I find one of the biggest issues I have in games is people refusing to play tanks. After just going 17-2 with Kog and losing because my entire team was squishy DPS with no tanks or support, I've decided it's time to take things into my own hands and learn to play a tank.

Who are the premiere tanks these days? I own Amumu, Mordekaiser and Nasus. Who else shold I consider?

Garen.
Abuse that bitch while you can.


How would you spec masteries and build him (considering I'm only level 19)?

EDIT: And thanks for the Galio write-up, Brees, I'm definitely going to give that a shot.
Khenra
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands885 Posts
September 20 2010 23:38 GMT
#19111
On September 21 2010 08:21 scintilliaSD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 08:13 oberon wrote:
Everyone seems to call Amumu a "tank". I don't really get this. His one damage mitigation ability is pretty bad. By the time he can really take a lot of damage, he can almost 1v5 hard carry. So why not call him a carry?

He initiates well, disables well and is enough of a threat to cause enemies to focus on him over other targets. Those are pretty much all the attributes you need to be a tank.


Ashe initiates well, disables well and is enough of a threat to cause enemies to focus on her over other targets. That doesn't make her a tank.

Amumus skills allow him to build him as a tank, since he doesn't need to get lots of AD or AP to be effective. That's why he's a tank.
This signature is ruining eSports.
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
September 20 2010 23:42 GMT
#19112
Amumu's skills hurt/snare people directly around him, or carry him into the other team so he can use said skills. Any champion who benefits from being in the middle of the other team as much as possible is pretty much screwed if he builds anything other than tank items. (also his E mitigates damage, and the cd is reduced when he takes hits).
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 21 2010 00:06 GMT
#19113
i like opening mananips (well actually faerie charmx2) into soul shroud on galio because his ult cd is ungodly long, and the HP is really nice on him seeing as the ult itself gives 30% damage reduction and you don't need super high resistances right away. merc treads into aegis next, abyssal after if you need it
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 21 2010 00:09 GMT
#19114
Baikin just opens Cloak and rushes Abyssal... it's not uncommon to see this Galio rumble out of his corner 20 minutes into a game with Treads, Abyssal, and GA and just take over the game.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
September 21 2010 00:12 GMT
#19115
On September 21 2010 08:42 Flakes wrote:
Amumu's skills hurt/snare people directly around him, or carry him into the other team so he can use said skills. Any champion who benefits from being in the middle of the other team as much as possible is pretty much screwed if he builds anything other than tank items. (also his E mitigates damage, and the cd is reduced when he takes hits).


This is reasonable, but it just means he should build tanky. I mean, the same could be said of master yi...
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 21 2010 00:20 GMT
#19116
On September 21 2010 09:12 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 08:42 Flakes wrote:
Amumu's skills hurt/snare people directly around him, or carry him into the other team so he can use said skills. Any champion who benefits from being in the middle of the other team as much as possible is pretty much screwed if he builds anything other than tank items. (also his E mitigates damage, and the cd is reduced when he takes hits).


This is reasonable, but it just means he should build tanky. I mean, the same could be said of master yi...


?? what u smokin bro...

amumu goes nearly straight tank items, so that he can just barely survive teamfights long enough to cast his ult. All of his skills center around gettting in ppls faces and trying to get them to attack him, and you say hes not a tank?
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
September 21 2010 00:28 GMT
#19117
On September 21 2010 09:12 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 08:42 Flakes wrote:
Amumu's skills hurt/snare people directly around him, or carry him into the other team so he can use said skills. Any champion who benefits from being in the middle of the other team as much as possible is pretty much screwed if he builds anything other than tank items. (also his E mitigates damage, and the cd is reduced when he takes hits).


This is reasonable, but it just means he should build tanky. I mean, the same could be said of master yi...


have fun building ap mummy and dying in 2 seconds

yi shouldn't build tanky because he has an amazing ulti and good damage early. also he doesn't need to build tanky, he doesn't initiate. master yi goes in after the fight is done and picks off casters/squishies.
Jazriel
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada404 Posts
September 21 2010 00:39 GMT
#19118
Galio loses to merc treads. Or am I wrong?
#1 LoL player
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
September 21 2010 00:40 GMT
#19119
He has to cancel his ult sooner than full. His ult is okay, his other skills are better.
ô¿ô
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 21 2010 00:47 GMT
#19120
on pantheon ive been going

meki pendant/2 potions
brutalizer
boots 1
brutalizer
avarice
ghostblade
inf edge

is that good or should i be doing somethign diff? i only know brutalizer is key from what ive read in the thread about it being pantheons best item..
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Prev 1 954 955 956 957 958 1431 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
#84
IntoTheiNu 980
WardiTV825
OGKoka 364
Rex96
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 364
SortOf 225
Rex 96
Ryung 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 10892
Sea 2859
Jaedong 2316
Mini 1286
Soma 1153
EffOrt 740
ZerO 698
BeSt 563
Stork 429
Hyuk 419
[ Show more ]
Light 312
actioN 306
ggaemo 197
Snow 148
Hyun 148
Pusan 111
Rush 100
Aegong 79
PianO 76
ToSsGirL 69
Nal_rA 67
Killer 56
Sea.KH 50
Free 39
[sc1f]eonzerg 38
ajuk12(nOOB) 31
soO 26
Shinee 25
sorry 25
Barracks 20
HiyA 18
scan(afreeca) 17
GoRush 16
JYJ 16
Shine 15
Bale 14
yabsab 12
Sacsri 11
Icarus 7
Terrorterran 5
Dota 2
XaKoH 553
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2899
zeus709
x6flipin476
byalli461
allub402
markeloff170
edward127
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King40
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor218
Other Games
singsing2343
B2W.Neo1197
XBOCT301
Pyrionflax199
crisheroes145
hiko140
Hui .136
Fuzer 10
ZerO(Twitch)7
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream406
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 10
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1052
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
3h 42m
Replay Cast
11h 42m
Replay Cast
20h 42m
Afreeca Starleague
21h 42m
Leta vs YSC
GSL
1d 21h
Rogue vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Cure vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Bunny
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Escore
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
IPSL
5 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
IPSL
6 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Jaedong vs Light
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.