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Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
September 10 2010 19:17 GMT
#17221
On September 11 2010 03:57 NB wrote:
i think there is a bug with the lolclient after the patch, my CPU is being used much more even though im not even in a game... the more you play b4 you restart the client, the more cpu resources it takes....


yeh same with the EU clients, noticeable drop in frame rate in game...
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 10 2010 19:18 GMT
#17222
On September 11 2010 04:11 Brees wrote:
why would you take ignite on malzahar anyway? he needs ghost/flash like kog or any other carry with no esacpe. no point in doing insane dmg if U GONNA GET RHAPEDZ

I thot he meant that if You ignite Malzahar he denies his ulti, but I might be wrong :o
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 19:21:15
September 10 2010 19:21 GMT
#17223
On September 11 2010 04:15 myopia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 04:02 spinesheath wrote:
On September 11 2010 03:57 NB wrote:
i think there is a bug with the lolclient after the patch, my CPU is being used much more even though im not even in a game... the more you play b4 you restart the client, the more cpu resources it takes....

Oh indeed, I just have the launcher open and am at 50-60% CPU usage...

Sounds like a memory leak, and it's been reported to Riot already.


Wat? Memory leaks typically consume memory, not CPU usage. Sounds more like some useless instructions are carried out infinitely.
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Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
September 10 2010 19:33 GMT
#17224
Leaks can cause a spike in cpu usage. Gradual degradation in performance is usually the primary symptom of a leak.

I've seen a lot of pictures from the LoL forums of the launcher consuming more memory than it used to. It's nowhere near what I'd consider "too much memory", but I guess people are saying it's magnitudes higher than what it previously consumed. Might not be a leak, but they're certainly trying something different that some people's machines dislike.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 10 2010 19:43 GMT
#17225
It's constantly high though. Afaik not typical for a memory leak. Doesn't rule out the possibility of a memory leak of course, but there should be a different reason behind this.
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 10 2010 19:44 GMT
#17226
On September 11 2010 04:15 myopia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 04:02 spinesheath wrote:
On September 11 2010 03:57 NB wrote:
i think there is a bug with the lolclient after the patch, my CPU is being used much more even though im not even in a game... the more you play b4 you restart the client, the more cpu resources it takes....

Oh indeed, I just have the launcher open and am at 50-60% CPU usage...

Sounds like a memory leak, and it's been reported to Riot already.

Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 04:11 Brees wrote:
why would you take ignite on malzahar anyway? he needs ghost/flash like kog or any other carry with no esacpe. no point in doing insane dmg if U GONNA GET RHAPEDZ


I thought they meant Malz getting ignited interrupts his ult? If they meant that CASTING ignite interrupts his ult, then, yeah, that's how channeling works. And ignite on Malz is bad.


eh... ignite has always been castable during malz's ult, which is why ignite is good on malz. puddle, ult, ignite = stupid amounts of dmg. The only thing tho, is that the range of ignite (and dfg for the person who mentioned that earlier) was shorter even than malz's old ult, which means that at its new length, if u use it at max length, ur gonna move when u cast ignite.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 10 2010 20:05 GMT
#17227
correct way to play teemo: b4 engage battle, turn OFF your W and turn it on when you need to chase or escape... took a while for me to realized T_T...
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 10 2010 20:09 GMT
#17228
On September 11 2010 04:21 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 04:15 myopia wrote:
On September 11 2010 04:02 spinesheath wrote:
On September 11 2010 03:57 NB wrote:
i think there is a bug with the lolclient after the patch, my CPU is being used much more even though im not even in a game... the more you play b4 you restart the client, the more cpu resources it takes....

Oh indeed, I just have the launcher open and am at 50-60% CPU usage...

Sounds like a memory leak, and it's been reported to Riot already.


Wat? Memory leaks typically consume memory, not CPU usage. Sounds more like some useless instructions are carried out infinitely.

well they are basicly the same since its harmful for your comp :D....

but yeah, there is some serious issue with the client that even cause the lag in game. ima go and play sc2 atm :<... tell me when they patch that xD
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 20:21:15
September 10 2010 20:20 GMT
#17229
went 18-2 with kassadin last night and we still lost :<. It was extremely close but our team was just not equipped to deal with their tanks... maybe if we'd had people modifying their builds to include bloodrazor or something... I just don't know.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 10 2010 20:49 GMT
#17230
On September 11 2010 05:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
went 18-2 with kassadin last night and we still lost :<. It was extremely close but our team was just not equipped to deal with their tanks... maybe if we'd had people modifying their builds to include bloodrazor or something... I just don't know.

If they were stacking a lot of MR (to counter Kassadin), you can consider getting a Lich Bane, as it procs physical damage. But without your/their team composition I it's kinda hard to give tips :p
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 10 2010 21:14 GMT
#17231
I was 18-1-14 as Kayle, and my team had 32 kills total. Yes, I was literally involved in EVERY kill my team made. In the end once they killed me by all focus firing me down when my teammates decided to split up and run away instead of fricken fight next to our tower, they were able to push and destroy us in less than 30 seconds because my team was absolutely worthless. -___-
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 21:39:57
September 10 2010 21:38 GMT
#17232
Caller' lolguide to Tiamat Miss Fortune

"Because you can't get any braver than having 3 Tiamats"

Masteries:

Whatever the hell you want. I'm a fan of 15-0-15 because I'm too cool for 21-something.

Summoner Spells: Flash/Ghost always. You need to run faster. And you need to run away since as soon as you get caught you're fucked 99% of the time.

Runes:

I don't even use any offensive runes. I guess attack damage is cool.

Skill Build:
QEQWQRQEQEREEWWRWW

Q is your bread and butter. And both times it procs Tiamat. Fucking awesome.
E is your slow. Use it to slow people, and as a setup for your R.
W is useful if you're going some attack speed build. But you really don't need it because you kick ass anyways. Get one level to fuck over those stupid ass healers.
R is what you pentakill with.

Start with:
Faerie Pendant or w/e that stupid mana regen item is called. the 180G one.
Regen Bead, that 250 HP Regen thing.
1 HP Pot.

Go mid. Use Q to harass the enemy. If the enemy is hiding a little behind the ranged creeps use Q to shoot the ranged creep that is furthest back. If they are hanging between the ranged and melee, use Q on the nearest melee creep in front. If they are in front of those, shoot them in the face until they cry. You can hit and run easy cuz u start with like 390 ms. If they hang really far away from the creeps, free farm and be a dick.

You should be able to get every single creep kill unless you are harassing like balls. Failure to do so means you are not brave enough.

At level 6 feel free to ult a creep wave when the enemy is in range. That'll get them low enough to make them run away, at which point you can free farm. Finish your 1st Tiamat before getting boots. I like Mobility boots cuz having 500 ms is fucking awesome, but it makes you super susceptible to getting caught and owned. Although it's usually going to happen to you anyways as soon as you get caught so you might as well minimize your chances of getting caught by running like crack.

At this point you should run around and keep farming. If you see a bunch of weak heroes or a gank in progress run down to that lane to double kill and then farm the creeps. As soon as you see a creep wave just run down to that lane (cuz of ur stupid movement speed) and farm it. Finish your next two Tiamats. You should have them finished by 25 minutes, else you're not brave enough.

Now you do like 212 damage. Your Q should one shot creep waves. Grab red buff and use it to kill fucking everything. Get Bloodthirsters. You don't need a frozen mallet cause you have red buff and 500 ms. If you don't have red buff, you're not brave enough. Feel free to get IE, but I don't like it cause your attack speed is slow as shit and it doesn't help your R at all. Make sure you have like a Rammus in front of you before you R so you can maximize your damage. The best is when Galio ults them all so you proceed to kill everything.

If you're not in a team fight, run around and kill creep waves. Run up to one, Q + E + shoot a few times and you get like 500 gold. Rinse wash repeat. By the time the game ends you should have over 300 creep kills. Otherwise you're not brave enough. If your team is failing you, you're probably screwed, because even the most farmed MF can't do shit if the team can't cover you long enough to rape everything. MF is literally the definition of a glass cannon. I suppose if you get enough money you can sell your Tiamats and buy more Bloodthirsters. Cause doing like 500 damage per bullet with your ult is fucking hilarious.

If you can't do any of these things you're not brave enough and should play Garen until you learn how to be brave.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 10 2010 21:43 GMT
#17233
On September 11 2010 06:38 Caller wrote:
Go mid.


NO
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 10 2010 21:51 GMT
#17234
On September 11 2010 06:43 myopia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 06:38 Caller wrote:
Go mid.


NO

YES
OTHERWISE YOURE NOT DOING THE BRAVE TIAMAT BUILD
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 10 2010 21:54 GMT
#17235
I hate unclear item descriptions...
(quoting from http://www.leagueoflegends.com/items)

Atmas Impaler:
+45 Armor +18% Critical Strike UNIQUE Passive: Physical attacks deal an additional 2% of your max Health in damage.

What exactly is considered a physical attack? Autoattacks only? Or does it add to Volley's damage? On-hit proccing spells?

Same for
Frozen Mallet:
+700 Health +20 Attack Damage UNIQUE Passive: Physical attacks reduce your target's Movement Speed for 2.5 seconds.


Last Whisper is different:
Last Whisper:
+10 Attack Damage +40% Attack Speed UNIQUE Passive: Attacks penetrate 40% of the defender's armor.

This might indicate that there is a difference between autoattacks and physical attacks?

Randuins Omen:
+300 Health +90 Armor +25 Health Regen per 5 sec. UNIQUE Passive: 15% Cooldown Reduction and 20% chance on being hit to slow the attacker's movement and attack speeds by 25% for 3 seconds. UNIQUE Active: Slows movement speeds and attack speeds of surrounding units by 35% for 2 seconds + 0.5 seconds for each 100 Armor and Magic Resist. 60 second cooldown.

On being hit by anything? Autoattacks? On-hit abilities? Does the active slow allied units too? (I still never got to use this, so weird... Whenever I had Randuins I totally forgot about it)

Rylai's Crystal Scepter:
+500 Health +80 Ability Power Passive: Dealing spell damage slows the target's movement speed by 35% for 2 seconds (15% for multi-target spells).

Is Singed's poison trail spell damage?

Sheen
+250 Mana +25 Ability Power UNIQUE Passive: 100% chance when an ability is used to increase your base damage by 80% on your next attack. This effect has a 3 second cooldown.

So "attack" means autoattacks and on-hit abilities?

Thornmail:
+100 Armor UNIQUE Passive: On being hit by standard attacks, returns 30% of damage taken as magic damage.

Yet another term.

Tiamat:
+42 Attack Damage +15 Health Regen per 5 sec +4 Mana Regen per 5 sec Passive: Your attacks Splash, dealing Physical Damage in a small area around the target.

I read it's 50% for melee and 33% for ranged, but of what?

Madred's Razors:
+15 Damage +23 Armor UNIQUE Passive: 15% chance on attack to deal 500 damage to a minion.

The usual...
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
September 10 2010 22:15 GMT
#17236
Spine, I've wanted to know most of those for a while now.

From what I've noticed in-game though, yes Singed with rylais will slow you down with his fart-trail. It's only a 15% speed reduction though because it's an AoE spell.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 10 2010 22:28 GMT
#17237
On September 11 2010 06:54 spinesheath wrote:
I hate unclear item descriptions...
(quoting from http://www.leagueoflegends.com/items)

Show nested quote +
Atmas Impaler:
+45 Armor +18% Critical Strike UNIQUE Passive: Physical attacks deal an additional 2% of your max Health in damage.

What exactly is considered a physical attack? Autoattacks only? Or does it add to Volley's damage? On-hit proccing spells?

Atma's impaler functions by added 2% of your max health to your Damage Stat. If you have 2500 Health, it'll be exactly like having a BF Sword + Chain Vest + Crit Cloak.

Same for
Show nested quote +
Frozen Mallet:
+700 Health +20 Attack Damage UNIQUE Passive: Physical attacks reduce your target's Movement Speed for 2.5 seconds.


Frozen Mallet does what we like to call an on-hit effect. On your auto-attacks and abilities that apply on-hit effects (Mystic Shot, Parley, Double Up...). Volley does not apply on-hit effects.

Last Whisper is different:
Show nested quote +
Last Whisper:
+10 Attack Damage +40% Attack Speed UNIQUE Passive: Attacks penetrate 40% of the defender's armor.

This might indicate that there is a difference between autoattacks and physical attacks?

Last Whisper's penetration applies as an on-hit effect. This is a hack that they used to make it not work on towers and it ends up sorta screwing Ashe and Pantheon over.

Show nested quote +
Randuins Omen:
+300 Health +90 Armor +25 Health Regen per 5 sec. UNIQUE Passive: 15% Cooldown Reduction and 20% chance on being hit to slow the attacker's movement and attack speeds by 25% for 3 seconds. UNIQUE Active: Slows movement speeds and attack speeds of surrounding units by 35% for 2 seconds + 0.5 seconds for each 100 Armor and Magic Resist. 60 second cooldown.

On being hit by anything? Autoattacks? On-hit abilities? Does the active slow allied units too? (I still never got to use this, so weird... Whenever I had Randuins I totally forgot about it)

On being hit refers specifically to being hit by autoattacks. It's an on-hit effect in reverse so it won't trigger on volley/spear shot, but will vs. Mystic Shot/Parley

Show nested quote +
Rylai's Crystal Scepter:
+500 Health +80 Ability Power Passive: Dealing spell damage slows the target's movement speed by 35% for 2 seconds (15% for multi-target spells).

Is Singed's poison trail spell damage?

Yes it is spell damage and it's AoE

Show nested quote +
Sheen
+250 Mana +25 Ability Power UNIQUE Passive: 100% chance when an ability is used to increase your base damage by 80% on your next attack. This effect has a 3 second cooldown.

So "attack" means autoattacks and on-hit abilities?

Correct, the 80% bonus is applied as an on-hit effect.

Show nested quote +
Thornmail:
+100 Armor UNIQUE Passive: On being hit by standard attacks, returns 30% of damage taken as magic damage.

Yet another term.

Auto-attack, w/e, this should be intuitive by now. Again, it's like Omen in that it's an on-hit in reverse.

Show nested quote +
Tiamat:
+42 Attack Damage +15 Health Regen per 5 sec +4 Mana Regen per 5 sec Passive: Your attacks Splash, dealing Physical Damage in a small area around the target.

I read it's 50% for melee and 33% for ranged, but of what?

Of your attack damage..? What's confusing here?

Show nested quote +
Madred's Razors:
+15 Damage +23 Armor UNIQUE Passive: 15% chance on attack to deal 500 damage to a minion.

The usual...

Again, on-hit. Same old song and dance.
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 10 2010 23:16 GMT
#17238
So what do you think, Miss Fortune or Kog'Maw as the better ranged carry?

I'm torn, Kog does a lot more single target damage, but Miss is a lot more mobile, easy to gank with, easier to farm with, and has an AoE damage ult which combines great with an ult like Amumu or Gangplank.
kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
September 10 2010 23:19 GMT
#17239
On September 11 2010 08:16 deth2munkies wrote:
So what do you think, Miss Fortune or Kog'Maw as the better ranged carry?

I'm torn, Kog does a lot more single target damage, but Miss is a lot more mobile, easy to gank with, easier to farm with, and has an AoE damage ult which combines great with an ult like Amumu or Gangplank.


Kogmaw is the better ranged carry, he outfarms MF with his RER combo on a creep wave, he kills tanks way faster than MF, and has utility wiith his R, his slow is also easier to hit.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
September 10 2010 23:29 GMT
#17240
Why does there have to be a stupid MF in each game. She sucks. No escapes, he ult doesn't do any damage, she's like a really shitty yi.
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