• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:48
CEST 03:48
KST 10:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End7Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!44Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0
StarCraft 2
General
JSHOP.CC, NON VBV CC, SPAMMING, RANSOMWARE, FUNDIN SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 GSTL Returns in 2026!
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) WardiTV Mondays 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory
Brood War
General
How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut? Are you ready for ASL 22? NEW HYPE VIDEO BW General Discussion [ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro24 Group A [ASL22] Ro24 Group B
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread The Letting Off Steam Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Creator Fan Club MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently...
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7327 users

League of Legends [New forum, check OP!] - Page 861

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 859 860 861 862 863 1431 Next
Lycaeus
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1420 Posts
September 10 2010 18:00 GMT
#17201
Why does ignite cancel malzahar's ult now? It never did that before
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 10 2010 18:01 GMT
#17202
On September 11 2010 03:00 Lycaeus wrote:
Why does ignite cancel malzahar's ult now? It never did that before

That's suppression for ya!
I'd guess it's a bug. Who is with me?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
September 10 2010 18:04 GMT
#17203
On September 11 2010 03:01 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 03:00 Lycaeus wrote:
Why does ignite cancel malzahar's ult now? It never did that before

That's suppression for ya!
I'd guess it's a bug. Who is with me?

Was implemented in the patch i believe.
In the woods, there lurks..
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 10 2010 18:06 GMT
#17204
On September 11 2010 01:40 barbsq wrote:
lol, when was she ever not good


like 2 months ago? kayle was regarded as one of the worst champs when i started playing 2-3 months ago until she got her remake
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 10 2010 18:06 GMT
#17205
Is it just Malz's ult, or is it all channeled spells? Either way, it doesn't make sense.
it's my first day
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 10 2010 18:06 GMT
#17206
sadly, 800 gold is still not dirty cheap. You could've had a chain vest and a sight ward ffs, why would you buy a philly stone :p.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
September 10 2010 18:12 GMT
#17207
sorry just not seeing myself building manamune on kayle..

right now Im going...

Ring
Guinsoos
Berserker Greaves
Mejais
Madreds Bloodrazor in most cases, sometimes something else

Elixir Pump Constantly

don't have any mana problems in solo lane
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
September 10 2010 18:20 GMT
#17208
I seem to recall Malzahar's ult being interrupted by Ignite/DFG last patch too before Suppression. I could just be going nuts.
Writer
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 18:28:30
September 10 2010 18:21 GMT
#17209
On September 11 2010 03:06 Mogwai wrote:
sadly, 800 gold is still not dirty cheap. You could've had a chain vest and a sight ward ffs, why would you buy a philly stone :p.

Remember that I start with a Regrowth. So it's only 365 gold. You get that money back in 12 minutes and 10 seconds. Add the sell value and I don't see it not paying off in an average game. I usually don't sell my Regrowth until fairly late into the game, the HP5 helps a lot even in midgame.
DBlade has way less regen unless you autoattack, its only real advantage is the easier lasthitting.
DShield is better against burst/ganks, but worse in wars of attrition or against casters.

It also helps a lot with mana issues, especially when I hit lvl 9 and have a Ghostblade/Bruta + 15% CDR from runes/masteries, so Volley Spam can actually drain a lot of mana. HP5 is a great stat for laning, having more of it allows me to poke much more.

My concerns are:
I have decent lanestaying thanks to Regrowth, but want to go shop the Philo fairly soon. I also don't like Teleport on Ashe.
I don't know if/by how much the Philo delays my Ghostblade/Bruta/Boots/Red Pot combo, which is where my build starts to kick in.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 18:39:50
September 10 2010 18:33 GMT
#17210
starting with a regrowth pendant doesn't make the philly stone any cheaper. Boots + 3 pots is the best way to open on ashe imo

if you have mana trouble replace your CDR blues with MP5plvl - 25% cdr from Ghostblade+bruta should be more than adequate
it's my first day
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 10 2010 18:35 GMT
#17211
Just don't get philosopher's stone. Please?

If you consider both the extra gold you could have farmed and the extra gold you could have denied your enemy if you were "stronger", as well as the potential kill/death factor, it really doesn't pay off.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 10 2010 18:36 GMT
#17212
Elixir Ashe is probably the only way to beat any strong mid champ :/
I can't see a regrowth pendant ashe not get denied.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
September 10 2010 18:40 GMT
#17213
why the hell do they put server status to busy to block ppl out when it can be easily bypassed with a code?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 10 2010 18:45 GMT
#17214
On September 11 2010 03:40 Shizuru~ wrote:
why the hell do they put server status to busy to block ppl out when it can be easily bypassed with a code?

So less people get in, because not everyone knows the code.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 19:01:14
September 10 2010 18:53 GMT
#17215
Boots + 3 pots forces you back pretty quickly against anyone who doesn't rely on skillshots and has a way to regain HP. It's great against Anivia and Karthus though.

365 gold "stronger"? Not a whole lot you can do with that (yeah if I can get Boots + Bruta on my first buy and can't afford Philo too, I will not get it. If I have trouble staying in lane I will look towards DBlade/Philo). Besides, I can trade hits and regen the damage much quicker than my enemy. Which essentially makes me stronger as well. If the enemy hits harder, or if he got more armor so I hit for less, that just evens it out.

Elixier is a special case. I haven't even tried that yet, but since you have to make it worth during a limited time it cannot be compared too well with other starting items.

I don't see how I would get denied less with a DShield, Boots, or even a DBlade.

Don't want to sound stubborn, btw. I personally have success with Regrowth and occasionally Philo. I think my reasoning behind it is sound as well. But if you can clearly show me why X is superior, I'll be happy to improve my play.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 10 2010 18:57 GMT
#17216
i think there is a bug with the lolclient after the patch, my CPU is being used much more even though im not even in a game... the more you play b4 you restart the client, the more cpu resources it takes....
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 10 2010 19:01 GMT
#17217
Regrowth Pendant doesn't help you when fighting someone. Sure if he is just harrasing you, you'll win, but if he dedicates to getting you low enough where you are forced to wait and regen he'll win.
Idk, I suck at explaining things but I know that Regrowth Ashe is the easiest Ashe to face, other than vamp scepter ^^
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 19:17:27
September 10 2010 19:02 GMT
#17218
On September 11 2010 03:57 NB wrote:
i think there is a bug with the lolclient after the patch, my CPU is being used much more even though im not even in a game... the more you play b4 you restart the client, the more cpu resources it takes....

Oh indeed, I just have the launcher open and am at 50-60% CPU usage...

On September 11 2010 04:01 HazMat wrote:
Regrowth Pendant doesn't help you when fighting someone. Sure if he is just harrasing you, you'll win, but if he dedicates to getting you low enough where you are forced to wait and regen he'll win.
Idk, I suck at explaining things but I know that Regrowth Ashe is the easiest Ashe to face, other than vamp scepter ^^

I don't think I can straight up fight any competent solo laner as Ashe, except maybe with Elixier and if he doesn't have Elixier too (again, haven't tried).
With DBlade I can hit back a bit harder, but from my experience it is not enough against many champs. Then I am left with low HP and no way to regen properly.
DShield offers me some regen and the extra health, but that extra health is only there a single time, unless I get to regenerate completely. I take a bit less damage, but have significantly less regen.
Boots relies on not getting hit at all, which makes it easy for several characters to zone me. The stupid attack animation also prevents me from abusing a 600 vs 550 range advantage.
Longsword opening imo is clearly inferior to DBlade at least until the first time you go shopping.

Btw, Regrowth now also allows you to get an HP pot. So compared to Regrowth before the patch it has become a bit stronger.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 19:12:16
September 10 2010 19:11 GMT
#17219
why would you take ignite on malzahar anyway? he needs ghost/flash like kog or any other carry with no esacpe. no point in doing insane dmg if U GONNA GET RHAPEDZ
Brees on in
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 10 2010 19:15 GMT
#17220
On September 11 2010 04:02 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 03:57 NB wrote:
i think there is a bug with the lolclient after the patch, my CPU is being used much more even though im not even in a game... the more you play b4 you restart the client, the more cpu resources it takes....

Oh indeed, I just have the launcher open and am at 50-60% CPU usage...

Sounds like a memory leak, and it's been reported to Riot already.

On September 11 2010 04:11 Brees wrote:
why would you take ignite on malzahar anyway? he needs ghost/flash like kog or any other carry with no esacpe. no point in doing insane dmg if U GONNA GET RHAPEDZ


I thought they meant Malz getting ignited interrupts his ult? If they meant that CASTING ignite interrupts his ult, then, yeah, that's how channeling works. And ignite on Malz is bad.
it's my first day
Prev 1 859 860 861 862 863 1431 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
2026 GSTL: Main Stage Day 1
CranKy Ducklings151
Discussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech87
RuFF_SC2 62
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3516
GuemChi 2210
Snow 109
Dota 2
The International51749
NeuroSwarm169
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
summit1g8150
taco 291
minikerr23
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1116
Other Games
C9.Mang0290
ViBE157
Maynarde117
Trikslyr62
Mew2King46
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick834
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 96
• davetesta25
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 32
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra1085
• Shiphtur162
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
8h 12m
KCM Race Survival
8h 12m
Replay Cast
22h 12m
Escore
1d 8h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 10h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Patches Events
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
[ Show More ]
The Patches Monday
4 days
GSL
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-19
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W8
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.