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Lycaeus
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1420 Posts
September 10 2010 18:00 GMT
#17201
Why does ignite cancel malzahar's ult now? It never did that before
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 10 2010 18:01 GMT
#17202
On September 11 2010 03:00 Lycaeus wrote:
Why does ignite cancel malzahar's ult now? It never did that before

That's suppression for ya!
I'd guess it's a bug. Who is with me?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
September 10 2010 18:04 GMT
#17203
On September 11 2010 03:01 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 03:00 Lycaeus wrote:
Why does ignite cancel malzahar's ult now? It never did that before

That's suppression for ya!
I'd guess it's a bug. Who is with me?

Was implemented in the patch i believe.
In the woods, there lurks..
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 10 2010 18:06 GMT
#17204
On September 11 2010 01:40 barbsq wrote:
lol, when was she ever not good


like 2 months ago? kayle was regarded as one of the worst champs when i started playing 2-3 months ago until she got her remake
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 10 2010 18:06 GMT
#17205
Is it just Malz's ult, or is it all channeled spells? Either way, it doesn't make sense.
it's my first day
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 10 2010 18:06 GMT
#17206
sadly, 800 gold is still not dirty cheap. You could've had a chain vest and a sight ward ffs, why would you buy a philly stone :p.
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
September 10 2010 18:12 GMT
#17207
sorry just not seeing myself building manamune on kayle..

right now Im going...

Ring
Guinsoos
Berserker Greaves
Mejais
Madreds Bloodrazor in most cases, sometimes something else

Elixir Pump Constantly

don't have any mana problems in solo lane
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
September 10 2010 18:20 GMT
#17208
I seem to recall Malzahar's ult being interrupted by Ignite/DFG last patch too before Suppression. I could just be going nuts.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 18:28:30
September 10 2010 18:21 GMT
#17209
On September 11 2010 03:06 Mogwai wrote:
sadly, 800 gold is still not dirty cheap. You could've had a chain vest and a sight ward ffs, why would you buy a philly stone :p.

Remember that I start with a Regrowth. So it's only 365 gold. You get that money back in 12 minutes and 10 seconds. Add the sell value and I don't see it not paying off in an average game. I usually don't sell my Regrowth until fairly late into the game, the HP5 helps a lot even in midgame.
DBlade has way less regen unless you autoattack, its only real advantage is the easier lasthitting.
DShield is better against burst/ganks, but worse in wars of attrition or against casters.

It also helps a lot with mana issues, especially when I hit lvl 9 and have a Ghostblade/Bruta + 15% CDR from runes/masteries, so Volley Spam can actually drain a lot of mana. HP5 is a great stat for laning, having more of it allows me to poke much more.

My concerns are:
I have decent lanestaying thanks to Regrowth, but want to go shop the Philo fairly soon. I also don't like Teleport on Ashe.
I don't know if/by how much the Philo delays my Ghostblade/Bruta/Boots/Red Pot combo, which is where my build starts to kick in.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 18:39:50
September 10 2010 18:33 GMT
#17210
starting with a regrowth pendant doesn't make the philly stone any cheaper. Boots + 3 pots is the best way to open on ashe imo

if you have mana trouble replace your CDR blues with MP5plvl - 25% cdr from Ghostblade+bruta should be more than adequate
it's my first day
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 10 2010 18:35 GMT
#17211
Just don't get philosopher's stone. Please?

If you consider both the extra gold you could have farmed and the extra gold you could have denied your enemy if you were "stronger", as well as the potential kill/death factor, it really doesn't pay off.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 10 2010 18:36 GMT
#17212
Elixir Ashe is probably the only way to beat any strong mid champ :/
I can't see a regrowth pendant ashe not get denied.
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Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
September 10 2010 18:40 GMT
#17213
why the hell do they put server status to busy to block ppl out when it can be easily bypassed with a code?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 10 2010 18:45 GMT
#17214
On September 11 2010 03:40 Shizuru~ wrote:
why the hell do they put server status to busy to block ppl out when it can be easily bypassed with a code?

So less people get in, because not everyone knows the code.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 19:01:14
September 10 2010 18:53 GMT
#17215
Boots + 3 pots forces you back pretty quickly against anyone who doesn't rely on skillshots and has a way to regain HP. It's great against Anivia and Karthus though.

365 gold "stronger"? Not a whole lot you can do with that (yeah if I can get Boots + Bruta on my first buy and can't afford Philo too, I will not get it. If I have trouble staying in lane I will look towards DBlade/Philo). Besides, I can trade hits and regen the damage much quicker than my enemy. Which essentially makes me stronger as well. If the enemy hits harder, or if he got more armor so I hit for less, that just evens it out.

Elixier is a special case. I haven't even tried that yet, but since you have to make it worth during a limited time it cannot be compared too well with other starting items.

I don't see how I would get denied less with a DShield, Boots, or even a DBlade.

Don't want to sound stubborn, btw. I personally have success with Regrowth and occasionally Philo. I think my reasoning behind it is sound as well. But if you can clearly show me why X is superior, I'll be happy to improve my play.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 10 2010 18:57 GMT
#17216
i think there is a bug with the lolclient after the patch, my CPU is being used much more even though im not even in a game... the more you play b4 you restart the client, the more cpu resources it takes....
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 10 2010 19:01 GMT
#17217
Regrowth Pendant doesn't help you when fighting someone. Sure if he is just harrasing you, you'll win, but if he dedicates to getting you low enough where you are forced to wait and regen he'll win.
Idk, I suck at explaining things but I know that Regrowth Ashe is the easiest Ashe to face, other than vamp scepter ^^
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 19:17:27
September 10 2010 19:02 GMT
#17218
On September 11 2010 03:57 NB wrote:
i think there is a bug with the lolclient after the patch, my CPU is being used much more even though im not even in a game... the more you play b4 you restart the client, the more cpu resources it takes....

Oh indeed, I just have the launcher open and am at 50-60% CPU usage...

On September 11 2010 04:01 HazMat wrote:
Regrowth Pendant doesn't help you when fighting someone. Sure if he is just harrasing you, you'll win, but if he dedicates to getting you low enough where you are forced to wait and regen he'll win.
Idk, I suck at explaining things but I know that Regrowth Ashe is the easiest Ashe to face, other than vamp scepter ^^

I don't think I can straight up fight any competent solo laner as Ashe, except maybe with Elixier and if he doesn't have Elixier too (again, haven't tried).
With DBlade I can hit back a bit harder, but from my experience it is not enough against many champs. Then I am left with low HP and no way to regen properly.
DShield offers me some regen and the extra health, but that extra health is only there a single time, unless I get to regenerate completely. I take a bit less damage, but have significantly less regen.
Boots relies on not getting hit at all, which makes it easy for several characters to zone me. The stupid attack animation also prevents me from abusing a 600 vs 550 range advantage.
Longsword opening imo is clearly inferior to DBlade at least until the first time you go shopping.

Btw, Regrowth now also allows you to get an HP pot. So compared to Regrowth before the patch it has become a bit stronger.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 19:12:16
September 10 2010 19:11 GMT
#17219
why would you take ignite on malzahar anyway? he needs ghost/flash like kog or any other carry with no esacpe. no point in doing insane dmg if U GONNA GET RHAPEDZ
Brees on in
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 10 2010 19:15 GMT
#17220
On September 11 2010 04:02 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 03:57 NB wrote:
i think there is a bug with the lolclient after the patch, my CPU is being used much more even though im not even in a game... the more you play b4 you restart the client, the more cpu resources it takes....

Oh indeed, I just have the launcher open and am at 50-60% CPU usage...

Sounds like a memory leak, and it's been reported to Riot already.

On September 11 2010 04:11 Brees wrote:
why would you take ignite on malzahar anyway? he needs ghost/flash like kog or any other carry with no esacpe. no point in doing insane dmg if U GONNA GET RHAPEDZ


I thought they meant Malz getting ignited interrupts his ult? If they meant that CASTING ignite interrupts his ult, then, yeah, that's how channeling works. And ignite on Malz is bad.
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