• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:48
CEST 12:48
KST 19:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course9Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16
Community News
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !8Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
ASL Tickets to Live Event Finals? Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? [ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals A [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 3
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition What's the deal with APM & what's its true value
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2062 users

League of Legends [New forum, check OP!] - Page 86

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 84 85 86 87 88 1431 Next
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
June 22 2010 19:21 GMT
#1701
lol @ zhonyah ring sorakas
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 22 2010 19:29 GMT
#1702
The biggest problem with Soraka is that you often place your life in someone else's hands, and there's not a whole lot you can do about it, even if you pick the "right person" (you have no choice in laning). For instance there was a game where we had like a 5-0 Ryze. Fine, so I clung to him, and he grew cockier and cockier, and eventually made a terrible decision to "go for a straggler kill." Well he lived, because I blew everything I had to hold him up. Problem is, he's running back, and isn't stopping while being healed. Great, but I'm not moving, because I'm casting. So to no surprise I would die "in his stead," but the only thing everyone else sees is Soraka fed again. QQ. And it just gets you on tilt when someone keeps talking trash about it, because it's usually very minimally your fault - as Soraka you simply don't care as much about substituting your life in the stead of someone else.

Eve sucks, though.

\o/
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Surrealz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States449 Posts
June 22 2010 19:31 GMT
#1703
I've been playing annie as my main lately, but a friend of mine told me that she is not a first rate character. Is this true or can she be competitive at high levels?

Second, should I be starting with mana saph for rod of ages, or going with dorans ring for the AP/Regen and such?
1a2a3a
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 22 2010 19:33 GMT
#1704
Uh, she's probably the best and most consistent nuking character in the game, as well as (when played right) one of the most dominating solo mid characters in the game. Your friend's stupid.

Ring vs Sapph is personal preference. Ring is great mostly for the HP, which I notice you didn't bring up. Sapphire you can get two health potions instead, though (only one with Ring).
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 22 2010 19:37 GMT
#1705
late game olaf is so annoying... that ult is such a beating. though, tbh, it should usually work out like poppy's ult, where you get to freely chase one of them down and demolish them, then your ult expires and you get worked by the rest of the team.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 19:40:05
June 22 2010 19:39 GMT
#1706
On June 23 2010 04:31 Surrealz wrote:
I've been playing annie as my main lately, but a friend of mine told me that she is not a first rate character. Is this true or can she be competitive at high levels?

Second, should I be starting with mana saph for rod of ages, or going with dorans ring for the AP/Regen and such?

the primary downside of doran's items is that they don't build into shit. that aside, they're almost always better than other tier 1 items.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Surrealz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States449 Posts
June 22 2010 19:43 GMT
#1707
Thanks for the advice guys, much appreciated.

In a more midgame atmosphere, should I be going for that early rod of ages? Or should I go for the deathtaker staff thing (the item that has the on use nuke)? I've also heard of people go for that archmage staff thing too. I'm really confused on what the current build(s) are for annie.
1a2a3a
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 19:45:00
June 22 2010 19:44 GMT
#1708
ring >> sapphire in high level play it seems

basically you really want that 100 hp advantage at level 1, it's so integral to your success. you go to mid with vamp scept twitch vs doran shield twitch or ring vs sapphire annie and you'll see a big difference. however, sapphire crystal does build into catalyst easily so thats your call.

you want to go roa/banshees merc treads/sorc boots and ap item of your choice. i don't like mejai on annie, since her nukes already hit hard and she needs hp/mana.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 22 2010 19:45 GMT
#1709
Annie is highly flexible because she's such a strong, stable character. Deathfire Grasp is nice but I don't see it on Annie a lot, mostly because she has a strong initiation spell (Tibbers) that renders DFG less-effective. It's still a great pick against heavy-HP teams though, as a DFG switch will outperform any AP stack you get against a high-priority high-HP target (ie. Olaf, Nasus).

I'm not a fan of Archangel on anyone other than Zilean and possibly Morgana.

I'm also not a fan of RoA myself, but most people swear by it (or at least Catalyst).
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
June 22 2010 19:48 GMT
#1710
I've been following the Taric item build that Mogwai rec'd a while back, going:

Ruby Crystal
Boots
Aegis
Mercury Treads
Starks
->whatever tanking items (usually soul shroud)

and it's working pretty well. The only trouble is that even with all points in utility, plus low level mp5 runes, and running clarity, I can run out of mana at really inconvenient times. I'm thinking I should start buying Doran's Ring first until I can get more levels for runes + 21 utility reducing clarity cooldown. Is this a good idea?
it's my first day
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 19:51:36
June 22 2010 19:49 GMT
#1711
On June 23 2010 04:44 shawster wrote:
ring >> sapphire in high level play it seems

basically you really want that 100 hp advantage at level 1, it's so integral to your success. you go to mid with vamp scept twitch vs doran shield twitch or ring vs sapphire annie and you'll see a big difference. however, sapphire crystal does build into catalyst easily so thats your call.

you want to go roa/banshees merc treads/sorc boots and ap item of your choice. i don't like mejai on annie, since her nukes already hit hard and she needs hp/mana.

haha, no no no no, high level games never ever involve twitch at mid. he gets absolutely demolished by everyone decent mid. I remember the last time I saw a twitch mid and suffice to say that game did not go well for him :p.

Heavononearth is well regarded as the best annie in this thread, so I'd just wait for his comment on how to build.

On June 23 2010 04:48 trace wm wrote:
I've been following the Taric item build that Mogwai rec'd a while back, going:

Ruby Crystal
Boots
Aegis
Mercury Treads
Starks
->whatever tanking items (usually soul shroud)

and it's working pretty well. The only trouble is that even with all points in utility, plus low level mp5 runes, and running clarity, I can run out of mana at really inconvenient times. I'm thinking I should start buying Doran's Ring first until I can get more levels for runes + 21 utility reducing clarity cooldown. Is this a good idea?


As much as I hate to admit it, I think chalice might be OK on Taric... hate chalice though... still, could be an OK solution until you get your tier 3 Mp5pLs. The thing is that with your mana stealing passive, you really should be OK... I dunno.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Surrealz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States449 Posts
June 22 2010 19:54 GMT
#1712
Ok, so I guess rod of ages is my only choice? or void staff? I've also heard of people who like zhonyas ring. In an optimal game, what staff do you want to get first?

Oh and noob question, do boots movement bonuses stack?
1a2a3a
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
June 22 2010 19:57 GMT
#1713
Oh man I Loooove killing Tibbers.

I think I might have a problem.

Is this an addiction or will this fascination pass?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 22 2010 19:58 GMT
#1714
On June 23 2010 04:54 Surrealz wrote:
Ok, so I guess rod of ages is my only choice? or void staff? I've also heard of people who like zhonyas ring. In an optimal game, what staff do you want to get first?

Oh and noob question, do boots movement bonuses stack?

boots bonuses don't stack.

again, I'd wait to hear what heavononearth has to say on the subject of building.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
June 22 2010 20:01 GMT
#1715
void staff doesnt seem like the optimal choice for your first high ap item since at that stage people wont be stacking mass MR yet. and remember void penetrates a percent of MR not a flat amount. so until they have alot of MR, it will be about as effective as the mpen from a sorc boots.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
June 22 2010 20:05 GMT
#1716
On June 23 2010 04:49 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2010 04:48 trace wm wrote:
I've been following the Taric item build that Mogwai rec'd a while back, going:

Ruby Crystal
Boots
Aegis
Mercury Treads
Starks
->whatever tanking items (usually soul shroud)

and it's working pretty well. The only trouble is that even with all points in utility, plus low level mp5 runes, and running clarity, I can run out of mana at really inconvenient times. I'm thinking I should start buying Doran's Ring first until I can get more levels for runes + 21 utility reducing clarity cooldown. Is this a good idea?


As much as I hate to admit it, I think chalice might be OK on Taric... hate chalice though... still, could be an OK solution until you get your tier 3 Mp5pLs. The thing is that with your mana stealing passive, you really should be OK... I dunno.


The passive works wonders, but if my lane is getting competently zoned and harassed, there's been a few times where I can't get in to actually hit anything. The ring is cheaper than a chalice and contributes tankability + AP though, so I'll try it first, going

Ring / Boots / Aegis / Treads / Starks / etc

I won't even bother with an HP pot.
it's my first day
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 22 2010 20:06 GMT
#1717
On June 23 2010 04:57 ghen wrote:
Oh man I Loooove killing Tibbers.

I think I might have a problem.

Is this an addiction or will this fascination pass?

most of these suck, but #27 was pretty funny and seems relevant to killing tibbers :p

[image loading]


from this thread: http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=139608
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 20:11:17
June 22 2010 20:09 GMT
#1718
On June 23 2010 04:49 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2010 04:44 shawster wrote:
ring >> sapphire in high level play it seems

basically you really want that 100 hp advantage at level 1, it's so integral to your success. you go to mid with vamp scept twitch vs doran shield twitch or ring vs sapphire annie and you'll see a big difference. however, sapphire crystal does build into catalyst easily so thats your call.

you want to go roa/banshees merc treads/sorc boots and ap item of your choice. i don't like mejai on annie, since her nukes already hit hard and she needs hp/mana.

haha, no no no no, high level games never ever involve twitch at mid. he gets absolutely demolished by everyone decent mid. I remember the last time I saw a twitch mid and suffice to say that game did not go well for him :p.

.


it was just an example

i would just rush aegis on taric then go for some aura items, frozen heart sounds really good on taric and a catalyst item wouldn't be bad
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 20:20:33
June 22 2010 20:17 GMT
#1719
yeah I go for auras on Taric like you said, my mana trouble comes in the gap between taking out my lanes first tower -> getting starks (and possibly before if the lane is brutal) because I have to start roaming for team battles and can't just sit around hitting stuff for manas. Once I have Starks then I can charge up to towers and bash away.

hm but if I did go for Frozen Heart after Starks, that means I could start with Sapphire instead of Ring...

I have options.
it's my first day
Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
June 22 2010 20:27 GMT
#1720
On June 23 2010 04:57 ghen wrote:
Oh man I Loooove killing Tibbers.

I think I might have a problem.

Is this an addiction or will this fascination pass?


I love it when someone trys to focus down tibbers, they arent attacking me then.
"You are not trying to win, you are trying to be awesome" -Day[9]
Prev 1 84 85 86 87 88 1431 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro4 Match 1
Soma vs Leta
Afreeca ASL 17974
StarCastTV_EN482
Liquipedia
GSL
08:00
2026 Season 2: Qualifiers
Clem vs RogueLIVE!
herO vs SHIN
Zoun vs Maru
IntoTheiNu 777
CranKy Ducklings SOOP75
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko161
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 14425
Bisu 5585
Jaedong 4638
Sea 2009
BeSt 1104
EffOrt 810
Horang2 610
Hyuk 575
Pusan 444
Soulkey 363
[ Show more ]
ZerO 268
Larva 233
actioN 186
Rush 128
Hyun 112
Mind 84
Sharp 68
Killer 55
HiyA 33
Mong 31
sorry 27
soO 25
Sexy 22
Barracks 22
Terrorterran 20
Hm[arnc] 16
Bale 14
SilentControl 5
IntoTheRainbow 5
Aegong 0
Counter-Strike
olofmeister3479
shoxiejesuss774
Other Games
crisheroes242
monkeys_forever131
Pyrionflax116
MindelVK21
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL30130
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 244
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3733
• TFBlade1252
Other Games
• WagamamaTV333
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
1h 12m
Monday Night Weeklies
5h 12m
OSC
13h 12m
CranKy Ducklings
23h 12m
Afreeca Starleague
23h 12m
Light vs Flash
Replay Cast
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
OSC
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
BSL
5 days
GSL
5 days
Cure vs TBD
TBD vs Maru
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W7
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.