On September 08 2010 08:55 STS17 wrote: I run clarity and ghost or flash I find clarity to be an excellent choice because it can help sustain a team push too.
You guys may disagree with me (as demonstrated by the arrogance of saying "the right way to play heimer") but I am extremely successful with my build and you will have to put forth some extremely good proof to change that.
Wow and you call our posts arrogant? I'll leave the calling you out completely to more 'named' people in this thread, but you are just off base with what is an optimal way to build Heimer. You may have success with your current build, but I guarantee you would have more success with a better(not an opinion, fact) build.
Remember that this discussion stemmed from the argument about flat mp5, because that extra 2 mp5 for levels 1-3 is totally worth it.
This feels like a silly question, but how does one go about starting to play this game? It feels incredibly inaccessible.
All of the "1-10" practice games that I've seen hosted are composed of a level 15+ team waiting for low levels to roflstomp.
In each matchmaking game I've played so far, at least one of my teammates runs across the river before minions spawn and dies, proceeds to die once or twice more, then leaves. This prompts the rest of my team to leave.
I don't want to sound whiny, but playing 1v5 over and over again isn't much fun. Do I need to have a group of people to play this game with to enjoy it, or am I missing the "noobs go here to not get trolled" button?
don't join practice games. just play normal queue until you're level 30. the higher level you get, the better your teammates (and opponents!) will be. by level 30 you'll have enough IP to buy your favorite champ and a full runepage of optimal runes for that champ. then you can keep playing normal to farm IP or join the tense, flamer-filled leagues of ranked play
Join the channel "LiquidParty" and look for someone to que with. Even if you're bad, having someone willing to give you pointers and just play a hero poorly without getting horribly raped is a good way to start.
Tbh, I was taught DotA by a friend and I've taught all my friends how to play. I cannot fathom how one person would randomly pick up a game like this. Understand early/mid/late game, ganking, laning, items, team composition, etc. No idea how someone would simply dive into that while maintaining the motivation to play when a game like this seems to attract all the mentally unstable people in the world.
Or just come to liquidparty and see if anyone wants to play with you, if there aren't any low lvl's willing to play I'm sure a lot of experienced players can make a smurf and teach you how to play.
On September 08 2010 09:23 Octothorpe wrote: This feels like a silly question, but how does one go about starting to play this game? It feels incredibly inaccessible.
All of the "1-10" practice games that I've seen hosted are composed of a level 15+ team waiting for low levels to roflstomp.
In each matchmaking game I've played so far, at least one of my teammates runs across the river before minions spawn and dies, proceeds to die once or twice more, then leaves. This prompts the rest of my team to leave.
I don't want to sound whiny, but playing 1v5 over and over again isn't much fun. Do I need to have a group of people to play this game with to enjoy it, or am I missing the "noobs go here to not get trolled" button?
That happens at level 30 in ranked games. In the 1500's. Seriously how did these people get that high?
Well now I feel more confident about asking around in LiquidParty. I joined before I made my first post, saw nothing but lvl 20-30, and the only two or three people active in the chat were raging about noobs. That hardly seemed like an opportune time to make myself known as a noob looking to be less bad. I'll go plead my case in LiquidParty after dinner. (my name on LoL is HeyzeusCristo, in case anybody wants to adopt a scrub ) Thanks for the words of advice to those who posted it, btw.
On September 08 2010 08:55 STS17 wrote: I run clarity and ghost or flash I find clarity to be an excellent choice because it can help sustain a team push too.
You guys may disagree with me (as demonstrated by the arrogance of saying "the right way to play heimer") but I am extremely successful with my build and you will have to put forth some extremely good proof to change that.
Wow and you call our posts arrogant? I'll leave the calling you out completely to more 'named' people in this thread, but you are just off base with what is an optimal way to build Heimer. You may have success with your current build, but I guarantee you would have more success with a better(not an opinion, fact) build.
Remember that this discussion stemmed from the argument about flat mp5, because that extra 2 mp5 for levels 1-3 is totally worth it.
It is difficult to call someone arrogant without sounding arrogant yourself. Regardless, I am willing to try different builds and if someone wishes to post theirs I will happily try it and I would be willing to do the same. I'm not trying to say my build is the end all be all of builds but I find it extremely effective at how I play.
On September 08 2010 08:55 STS17 wrote: I run clarity and ghost or flash I find clarity to be an excellent choice because it can help sustain a team push too.
You guys may disagree with me (as demonstrated by the arrogance of saying "the right way to play heimer") but I am extremely successful with my build and you will have to put forth some extremely good proof to change that.
Wow and you call our posts arrogant? I'll leave the calling you out completely to more 'named' people in this thread, but you are just off base with what is an optimal way to build Heimer. You may have success with your current build, but I guarantee you would have more success with a better(not an opinion, fact) build.
Remember that this discussion stemmed from the argument about flat mp5, because that extra 2 mp5 for levels 1-3 is totally worth it.
It is difficult to call someone arrogant without sounding arrogant yourself. Regardless, I am willing to try different builds and if someone wishes to post theirs I will happily try it and I would be willing to do the same. I'm not trying to say my build is the end all be all of builds but I find it extremely effective at how I play.
On September 08 2010 10:09 Octothorpe wrote: Well now I feel more confident about asking around in LiquidParty. I joined before I made my first post, saw nothing but lvl 20-30, and the only two or three people active in the chat were raging about noobs. That hardly seemed like an opportune time to make myself known as a noob looking to be less bad. I'll go plead my case in LiquidParty after dinner. (my name on LoL is HeyzeusCristo, in case anybody wants to adopt a scrub ) Thanks for the words of advice to those who posted it, btw.
No see, you found liquidparty so you're at least 50% of the way to not being a noob.
Plus a lot of us have alts that we'd be willing to play, especially off-peak hours and weekends.
On September 08 2010 08:55 STS17 wrote: I run clarity and ghost or flash I find clarity to be an excellent choice because it can help sustain a team push too.
You guys may disagree with me (as demonstrated by the arrogance of saying "the right way to play heimer") but I am extremely successful with my build and you will have to put forth some extremely good proof to change that.
Wow and you call our posts arrogant? I'll leave the calling you out completely to more 'named' people in this thread, but you are just off base with what is an optimal way to build Heimer. You may have success with your current build, but I guarantee you would have more success with a better(not an opinion, fact) build.
Remember that this discussion stemmed from the argument about flat mp5, because that extra 2 mp5 for levels 1-3 is totally worth it.
It is difficult to call someone arrogant without sounding arrogant yourself. Regardless, I am willing to try different builds and if someone wishes to post theirs I will happily try it and I would be willing to do the same. I'm not trying to say my build is the end all be all of builds but I find it extremely effective at how I play.
On September 08 2010 10:09 Octothorpe wrote: Well now I feel more confident about asking around in LiquidParty. I joined before I made my first post, saw nothing but lvl 20-30, and the only two or three people active in the chat were raging about noobs. That hardly seemed like an opportune time to make myself known as a noob looking to be less bad. I'll go plead my case in LiquidParty after dinner. (my name on LoL is HeyzeusCristo, in case anybody wants to adopt a scrub ) Thanks for the words of advice to those who posted it, btw.
No see, you found liquidparty so you're at least 50% of the way to not being a noob.
Plus a lot of us have alts that we'd be willing to play, especially off-peak hours and weekends.
And when we rage about noobs we're raging about the ones that just caused us to lose the game because they SHOULD have been better :3 Don't be intimidated by big numbers next to our names!
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* Strut (passive): Miss Fortune’s movement speed increases the longer she doesn’t get attacked. * Double Up: Fires a bullet at an enemy, damaging them and bouncing to another enemy behind them, dealing even more damage. * Impure Shots: Miss Fortune passively deals increased damage to an enemy the more times she attacks them. Can be activated to give increased attack speed and lower healing received by targets that she attacks. * Make It Rain: A flurry of bullets is fired into the air which soon land at a target location, dealing damage and slowing enemies inside of it over a few seconds. * Bullet Time (ultimate): Miss Fortune hysterically unleashes a massive barrage of bullets into a cone in front of her, channeling for a few seconds and causing large amounts of damage to enemies.
Akali
* Fixed a display error with Twin Disciplines and death recap * Shadow Dance can no longer be cast while rooted
Alistar
* Headbutt can no longer be cast while rooted * Unbreakable Will tooltip corrected to state that it removes all crowd control but not all debuffs * Pulverize tooltip corrected to not imply that enemies do not take damage until they land. * Base attack speed and attack speed per level increased to be approximately at the level of Rammus
Amumu
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Annie
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Cho'Gath
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Corki
* Attack range increased to 550 from 500 * Valkyre can no longer be cast while rooted * Missile Barrage reload time reduced to 10 from 14 * Attack speed per evel increased to 2.3 from 1.86
Dr. Mundo
* Infected Cleaver cost changed to 50/60/70/80/90 from 30/50/70/90/110 * Dr. Mundo is now healed for half of the ability cost when Infected cleaver strikes a target * Burning Agony cost reduced to 20/25/30/35/40 from 20/27.5/35/42.5/50 * Masochism cost changed to 25/35/45/55/65 from 15/30/45/60/75 * Sadism now returns 40/55/70 percent of Mundo's health instead of 50/50/50
Ezreal
* Base damage reduced to 45 from 47.6 * Damage per level reduced to 2.6 from 3 * Attack Speed per level reduced to 2.8 from 3.22 * Arcane Shift can no longer be cast while rooted * Mystic Shot damage reduced to 35/55/75/95/115 from 40/65/90/115/140 * Essence Flux mana cost reduced to 70/80/90/100/110 from 80/90/100/110/120
Gangplank
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Garen
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Gragas
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Heimerdinger
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Kassadin
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Katarina
* Shunpo can no longer be cast while rooted
Karthus
* Wall of Pain's level up tooltip now correctly states the increased slow amount
Kayle
* Reckoning's debuff and death recap tooltips have been corrected
Kog'Maw
* Living Artillery's buff on Kog'Maw now correctly states that the increased cost per stack is 40
Malphite
* Unstoppable Force can no longer be cast while rooted
Malzahar
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Master Yi
* Wuju Style tooltip simplified * Alpha Strike can no longer be cast while rooted
Nasus
* Fury of the Sands buff on Nasus no longer incorrectly states that it grants increased attack speed
Nidalee
* Pounce can no longer be cast while rooted * Cougar form's tooltip now correctly mentions the 10% bonus dodge chance Nidalee gains in Cougar Form * Corrected a display error with Takedown and death recap
Pantheon
* Corrected a display error with Pantheon's auto attack and death recap. * Aegis of Zeonia can no longer be cast while rooted * Grand Skyfall can no longer be cast while rooted
Poppy
* Heroic Charge can no longer be cast while rooted
Shaco
* Deceive can no longer be cast while rooted
Shen
* Shadow Dash can no longer be cast while rooted * Stand United can no longer be cast while rooted
Sivir
* Typos corrected in the level up tooltips for Spell Shield and Boomerang Blade.
Soraka
* Starcall debuff now correctly states that it can stack up to 20 times
Taric
* Imbue base heal reduced to 80/120/160/200/240 from 100/145/190/235/280 * Imbue ability power ratio increased to 1.1 from 0.9
Tristana
* Rocket Jump debuff now correctly states the slow amount * Rocket Jump can no longer be cast while rooted
Tryndamere
* Spinning Slash can no longer be cast while rooted
Twitch
* Spray and Pray buff no longer incorrectly states that he does reduced damage during Spray and Pray
Twisted Fate
* Gate can no longer be cast while rooted; Destiny can still be cast while rooted.
Veigar
* Fixed a typo in Event Horizon's tooltip
Vladimir
* Hemoplague's debuff will now grant assists even if it does not deal damage to the target
Warwick
* Blood Scent is now a toggle * Infinite Duress can no longer be cast while rooted
Xin Zhao
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Summoner Spells
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Items
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Sound Urgot
* Added a second taunt
Rammus
* Fixed a bug causing the Powerball sound to continue after Rammus hit his target * Fixed timing issues with basic attacks
On September 08 2010 09:28 Jazriel wrote: Join the channel "LiquidParty" and look for someone to que with. Even if you're bad, having someone willing to give you pointers and just play a hero poorly without getting horribly raped is a good way to start.
Tbh, I was taught DotA by a friend and I've taught all my friends how to play. I cannot fathom how one person would randomly pick up a game like this. Understand early/mid/late game, ganking, laning, items, team composition, etc. No idea how someone would simply dive into that while maintaining the motivation to play when a game like this seems to attract all the mentally unstable people in the world.
THIS.
I don't even bother solo queuing anymore. Always duo or more. Gets me less games, but also deal with a lot less rage.
On September 08 2010 12:17 HeavOnEarth wrote: except first pick doesnt have the champ bought, so its useless.
true, but i mean now i can ask in team chat "hey does anyone have olaf? I can pick garen first if you'll take olaf for me" and hopefully someone in like the 5th slot who never used to get garen can get garen, and i don't 'waste' my pick on a not OP champ first pick
Lawl, the Miss Fortune champ spotlight is up. This is the first spotlight I've seen where Phreak actually shows himself dying, not once but 3 times. I suppose people usually complain that the spotlights make the new champs look OP, I don't think there's any risk of that here. I just hope she's not UP, I was hoping to make her my ranged carry of choice since I don't really like any of the others.
On September 08 2010 09:28 Jazriel wrote: Join the channel "LiquidParty" and look for someone to que with. Even if you're bad, having someone willing to give you pointers and just play a hero poorly without getting horribly raped is a good way to start.
Tbh, I was taught DotA by a friend and I've taught all my friends how to play. I cannot fathom how one person would randomly pick up a game like this. Understand early/mid/late game, ganking, laning, items, team composition, etc. No idea how someone would simply dive into that while maintaining the motivation to play when a game like this seems to attract all the mentally unstable people in the world.
THIS.
I don't even bother solo queuing anymore. Always duo or more. Gets me less games, but also deal with a lot less rage.
Or join, ask to be taught because you have only played 3 games so far and have no previous DotA, LoL, HoN experience. And just get bashed by the TLers you queued with for fucking up and being awful then never return because they were the worst BMers and spiteful people you ever met online.
Experiences may vary person to person
One another note, hooray craigslist. Posted an ad asking for a spare Pax Jax on Wednesday and someone mailed me one this morning.
EPT
) Thanks for the words of advice to those who posted it, btw.
