EPTOn September 06 2010 07:04 ShoreT wrote:
What's the best way to play Mundo?
What's the best way to play Mundo?
On Twisted Treeline.
I always, always, always jungle with smite.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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On Twisted Treeline. I always, always, always jungle with smite. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On September 06 2010 06:49 Juicyfruit wrote: If you consider the fact that every dragon creates a difference of 260gold teamwise for every member (130g for you, -130g for them as opposed to if they had gotten it), it becomes rather obvious why the jungler should carry smite. errr... not quite. it's +130 for you yes... but it's just +0 for them. killing dragon gives your team a boost, but does not restrict/hold back their team at all also it's +25 for the killer too | ||
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Onawire
Canada14 Posts
On September 06 2010 07:13 gtrsrs wrote: errr... not quite. it's +130 for you yes... but it's just +0 for them. killing dragon gives your team a boost, but does not restrict/hold back their team at all also it's +25 for the killer too Not to mention the global exp gain. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
Why am I still at 1308 rating? People who have played with me recently: am I secretly bad? =( | ||
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craaaaack
479 Posts
Fuck eu servers. Rly. | ||
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Gao Xi
Hong Kong5178 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 06 2010 07:28 APurpleCow wrote: ASDF Why am I still at 1308 rating? People who have played with me recently: am I secretly bad? =( probably is a scrub like me can get to 1400 points playing with a total of about 18 different champions! Maybe I should start playing this thing again but hm =s super ill right now so can't | ||
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FlameSworD
United States414 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On September 06 2010 07:13 gtrsrs wrote: errr... not quite. it's +130 for you yes... but it's just +0 for them. killing dragon gives your team a boost, but does not restrict/hold back their team at all also it's +25 for the killer too That doesn't accentuate the importance of dragon enough. One team invariably gets dragon because there's only one, so if your team doesn't get it, it's basically theirs. If team A gets it: team A has 130g team B has 0g If team B gets it: team A has 0g team B has 130g Difference between the two scenario is a 260gold advantage to the team that gets dragon, because the team that didn't get it is being effectively denied 130g potential gold that they COULD have gotten. | ||
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-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
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Kexx
Germany240 Posts
On September 06 2010 08:00 -Kato- wrote: I downloaded the US server yesterday, but it was too laggy for me, unplayable. Does this happen to other fellow euros? I have 180 latency, not good, but playable on a smurf level. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On September 06 2010 08:00 Juicyfruit wrote: That doesn't accentuate the importance of dragon enough. One team invariably gets dragon because there's only one, so if your team doesn't get it, it's basically theirs. If team A gets it: team A has 130g team B has 0g If team B gets it: team A has 0g team B has 130g Difference between the two scenario is a 260gold advantage to the team that gets dragon, because the team that didn't get it is being effectively denied 130g potential gold that they COULD have gotten. no. i understand the importance of getting dragon, but you can't judge a team on what they "could have" gotten ie dragon like, my basketball coach in high school would always tell me "GUITARASAURUS! DON'T TURN OVER THE BASKETBALL! IF YOU DO IT'S A 6 POINT SWING!!!" and i'd be like wat. his logic was we DEFINITELY would have made a 3pointer if i didn't turn the ball over, but since i did, they DEFINITELY will hit a 3 pointer. which is entirely irrational and without any base just like, you don't consider yourself poorer by 130g every time dragon spawns, and the only way to get "even" is to kill dragon immediately... do you? cause that's essentially what you're saying. if you don't get dragon you've "lost" 130 gold. but you haven't. it's an advantage to the team that takes it, not a disadvantage to the team that doesn't take it, and there's a distinct difference | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On September 06 2010 08:03 Kexx wrote: I have 180 latency, not good, but playable on a smurf level. I lag about half my games on the Euro server. Funny story: A couple weeks ago (whenever last patch was) my laptop refused to dl the patch so I had to reinstall, unfortunately, the US download link was corrupted, so I was stuck on the EU server  | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
One gets it with smite The other one doesn`t There is no maybe about it. If team B didn't get dragon, team A definitely would have. Your basketball analogy is actually quite apt in this situation. If a team drops the ball and the other team picks it up and scores, it results in a 4-point difference. Not 2 point, 4 points. That`s exactly what`s happening here with dragon. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
the score went from 60-60 to 60-62. that's a 2 point swing. not a 4 point swing. there's no such thing as "potential gold" in this game. when you're playing starcraft you don't count every non-mined mineral patch as a money sink do you? ofc not. maybe while you sent 3 guys to get dragon, three of their guys killed 10 creeps each. that's like +160 gold that you didnt get because you left your lane. it's stupid to consider yourself as having "lost" 160 gold though. rly an easy concept. dragon is good. not getting dragon is nothing. letting the other team have dragon is good for them. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
But since you did, it becomes 58-62 That`s a 4 point difference as a result of the ball turnover. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On September 06 2010 08:37 PanN wrote: As a poker player I'm going to agree with juicyfruit because potential gain is talked about a lot. Money not gained is money lost! | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
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