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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 04 2010 21:33 GMT
#16201
pm radjcaob in game he plays a hybrid ap/ad teemo
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 04 2010 21:48 GMT
#16202
Looks like I am not checking my enemies' items properly... I totally missed that Shaco went for 6 boots. Well, his first gank turned into a double kill for our Ezreal, and the game continued like that, so I can't blame him for playing crappy. My team was trying to dive a lot and it failed quite a bit, so it was a harder game than it should have been... Shaco went 5/10/X, quite respectable for that build imo.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
September 04 2010 22:16 GMT
#16203
any tips kog vs kog (mirror match)? Does AD or AP Kog beat fast bloodrazor?
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
September 04 2010 23:14 GMT
#16204
On September 05 2010 07:16 radmax86 wrote:
any tips kog vs kog (mirror match)? Does AD or AP Kog beat fast bloodrazor?


Faster bloodrazor should win....

Or just don't play unranked games!
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 23:32:20
September 04 2010 23:31 GMT
#16205
On September 05 2010 06:02 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
So is AP teemo totally not viable then, let alone teemo himself?

I just love sticking shrooms down : [



I just played with an AP te emo who started 10-0 but then provided no actual utility in team fights. He just had a bit of a poke and just sat there, where an AD Te-Emo would be whipping their whole team at that point. I think this is the most retarded build ever because you completely gimp yourself in team fights.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 23:56:19
September 04 2010 23:47 GMT
#16206
My teemo build:

-clairvoyance
-teleport

-cloth armor + 3 health potions
-kill wolves
-kill wraiths
-port back and buy boots 1
-teleport to lane
-farm 700gold for madreds
-mess up the jungle for the rest of the game



From there you get wriggles, frozen mallet, banshees. The idea is to

A) mushroom up the whole map
B) knowing where their team is at all times and thus C and D
C) completely avoid any confrontation you cannot win via your innate speed, clairvoyance, stealth, and so on
D) force confrontations you CAN win, via frozen mallet

in teamfights you just poke their entire team and spread your poison around. It's not a whole lot of damage, but combined with the slow and the fear of stepping on your mushroom if they rush at you (and you being innately tanky and fast), it's fairly useful.

If they start running, activate your speed boost and chase.

Your team cannot have a jungler for this build, as you'll overlap in usefulness.
Kexx
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
September 04 2010 23:49 GMT
#16207
okay I have a question, I'm only level 18 and winning a game usually completely relies on me carrying and leading the team.
If I want to win I usually pick Vlad and take mid solo, if my team isn't brain dead I win 90% of the time.

But it's getting boring and now I want to buy a melee carry.
I'm thinking of Xin, Olaf or Pantheon.
The question is which of those heroes is best suited for my situation.
1. in 90% of the cases there won't be a jungler so there is no top solo line.
2. I should take solo lane as I don't want to risk a scrub taking it and not taking advantage of it, or worse feed in solo lane.

so what should I take?
I doubt jungling is a good method to carry, but maybe it is a good way, not sure.
I kinda think Pantheon could be the most fun, but is probably the weakest carry out of those 3.

So I'd like to hear your opinions on this.
chooooch
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 23:59:40
September 04 2010 23:58 GMT
#16208
Olaf with mana regen can hold 1v2, but he's usually the one jungling.

Pantheon and Xin probably can't.

The only melee carry that i'd WANT soloing 1v2 would be gangplank.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 05 2010 00:02 GMT
#16209
I just bought Olaf and I suck an unbelievable amount of dick with him. I've been playing extremely well with jungle amumu but I just can't get the hang of jungling Olaf. While I almost always succeed in ganking with a bandage toss from the bushes in the midst of my jungling, I never seem to set anything up in the lanes with Olaf.

Then I just end up feeding cause I'm not really sure how to build him. I start out with Vampiric Scepter and I save it to build into Starks Fervor later. I've heard greaves are good on him so I've been getting greaves/frozen mallet then going straight into guardian angel and then starks fervor. Should I build him tankier?

Is atmas impaler a good item on Olaf?
RIP Aaliyah
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 00:07:00
September 05 2010 00:06 GMT
#16210
lilballz builds olaf tanky (i always see randuin) with a cloak of agility (18% crit) thrown in there for damage.
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
September 05 2010 00:17 GMT
#16211
Flavor of the month nerds.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 05 2010 00:17 GMT
#16212
On September 05 2010 09:06 Juicyfruit wrote:
lilballz builds olaf tanky (i always see randuin) with a cloak of agility (18% crit) thrown in there for damage.

any videos of lilballz playing olaf? i've seen him on hotshots stream but i've never seen hotshot himself play olaf
RIP Aaliyah
Kexx
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
September 05 2010 00:24 GMT
#16213
On September 05 2010 09:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 09:06 Juicyfruit wrote:
lilballz builds olaf tanky (i always see randuin) with a cloak of agility (18% crit) thrown in there for damage.

any videos of lilballz playing olaf? i've seen him on hotshots stream but i've never seen hotshot himself play olaf


there is one vid of hotshot playing Olaf solo mid against vlad, but I wouldn't take it as an example really, he rushes warmongs.

I like lilballz build, he relies on early maxed E, CDR and life to get as much E's in a fight as possible.

I still don't know who to buy.

chooooch
UbOs
Profile Joined February 2009
United States28 Posts
September 05 2010 00:35 GMT
#16214
hey, how viable is ap ez? i've been playing ad as it seems to be the recommended build but i'm getting pretty bored with it.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 05 2010 00:35 GMT
#16215
On September 05 2010 09:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I just bought Olaf and I suck an unbelievable amount of dick with him. I've been playing extremely well with jungle amumu but I just can't get the hang of jungling Olaf. While I almost always succeed in ganking with a bandage toss from the bushes in the midst of my jungling, I never seem to set anything up in the lanes with Olaf.

Then I just end up feeding cause I'm not really sure how to build him. I start out with Vampiric Scepter and I save it to build into Starks Fervor later. I've heard greaves are good on him so I've been getting greaves/frozen mallet then going straight into guardian angel and then starks fervor. Should I build him tankier?

Is atmas impaler a good item on Olaf?

Never start vamp specter and almost never get zerker greaves. (merc threads are just so good)
Not sure about an olaf build, I'd build tanky instead of lifesteal, though.
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Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
September 05 2010 00:36 GMT
#16216
On September 05 2010 09:24 Kexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 09:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On September 05 2010 09:06 Juicyfruit wrote:
lilballz builds olaf tanky (i always see randuin) with a cloak of agility (18% crit) thrown in there for damage.

any videos of lilballz playing olaf? i've seen him on hotshots stream but i've never seen hotshot himself play olaf


there is one vid of hotshot playing Olaf solo mid against vlad, but I wouldn't take it as an example really, he rushes warmongs.

I like lilballz build, he relies on early maxed E, CDR and life to get as much E's in a fight as possible.

I still don't know who to buy.


I say Xin Zhao, a good Xin Zhao can carrying teams. Olaf is good, but probably not as easy. From my experiences with Olaf, if your team isn't doing so great, you probably aren't going to be also. Not to mention with no runes and not much masteries, I bet Xin Zhao could 1v2 easily and probably nab a few kills
Kexx
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 00:42:48
September 05 2010 00:38 GMT
#16217
On September 05 2010 09:36 Nokeboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 09:24 Kexx wrote:
On September 05 2010 09:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On September 05 2010 09:06 Juicyfruit wrote:
lilballz builds olaf tanky (i always see randuin) with a cloak of agility (18% crit) thrown in there for damage.

any videos of lilballz playing olaf? i've seen him on hotshots stream but i've never seen hotshot himself play olaf


there is one vid of hotshot playing Olaf solo mid against vlad, but I wouldn't take it as an example really, he rushes warmongs.

I like lilballz build, he relies on early maxed E, CDR and life to get as much E's in a fight as possible.

I still don't know who to buy.


I say Xin Zhao, a good Xin Zhao can carrying teams. Olaf is good, but probably not as easy. From my experiences with Olaf, if your team isn't doing so great, you probably aren't going to be also. Not to mention with no runes and not much masteries, I bet Xin Zhao could 1v2 easily and probably nab a few kills


I'm sad that nobody said, buy pantheon, he owns everything.
He's probably by far the most fun out of those three, but right now at my level I just have to play really good heroes I can depend on.

I guess I'll go for xin then.

edit: still waiting for somebody coming in saying that Pantheon is auto-win and giving me a fool proof build.

D:
chooooch
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
September 05 2010 00:43 GMT
#16218
yes pantheon is autowin if your mogwair
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
September 05 2010 00:45 GMT
#16219
I would recommend Pantheon as well. As the infamous Tasteless would say, "He's pretty baller."
Kexx
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 00:48:08
September 05 2010 00:46 GMT
#16220
so should I take the fool proof build of maknoon, who takes Revive, dies on purpose just to ultradive on someone with 225% movement speed?

sounds pretty awesome.

what also holds me back is the new hero, she sounds pretty awesome, regardless if she is strong or not.

what do I do, what do I do.
chooooch
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