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On August 31 2010 03:22 gtrsrs wrote:
it could be a good jungling item for those junglers that don't need madreds but need damage. get it early and every hit after that slowly makes you stronger (and since you're auto attacking you're getting lots of hits)
Junglers are going to have blue buff though, so the cost efficiency of having mana+mana regen becomes a waste, and thus not efficient. If you don't want madreds you can turn cloth armor into an HoG, or save it for a GA, but the tear is such a waste for a jungler even given 'efficient' damage in this case.
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Eesh. Does LoL really *need* all these new items/champions? It certainly keeps the metagame evolving and progressing, but so often it results in these little balance problems.
I'd shit my pants if I had to lane against a Kogmaw who had an item that gave him damage, mana, and mana regen, and which slowly added more mana the longer the game goes on. Seriously? He's already a scary little bastard, and depleting his mana, or forcing him to invest in mana and not damage... just about all you can do.
And all those new MR items that were floating around a bit ago. A magic-damage thornmail? And those other 2 or something new items that build out of negatron. A few months ago I would have been like "OH MY GOD FINALLY MORE MR ITEMS". But now that Galio has been added I'm terrified of giving that invulnerable jerk any more MR/AP in stylish, new, and possibly OP items.
I kinda wish riot would just relax it a bit with all the new shit, and balance what they've already got. THEN go back to adding a bit more!
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So let me get this out of the way right now:
I will have 3 seperate stacks for Tears, Archangels and Manamunes, giving me up to 3k mana from those? If I build a Tear into Manamune and get another Tear, that one will continue the old Tear stack?
Hasn't been answered before: Is the Lichbane proc physical or magical damage?
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On August 31 2010 03:31 spinesheath wrote:
So let me get this out of the way right now:
I will have 3 seperate stacks for Tears, Archangels and Manamunes, giving me up to 3k mana from those? If I build a Tear into Manamune and get another Tear, that one will continue the old Tear stack?
Hasn't been answered before: Is the Lichbane proc physical or magical damage?
tear's proc is unique. I believe you only get what mana pool you have with Archangels, and then add on the manamune. As for lichbane, it's magical.
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u guys know how to re-center the scoreboard (the one TAB opens) if u accidentally dragged it off screen? its been happening to me alot lately and i have no idea how it happens, painfully annoying for missing a scoreboard -.-
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Just dominated the entire game.
Then their kog gets bloodrazors and a zeal and while he does his thing veigar, zil and rammus babysits him all the time so we practically couldnt get to him.
Wish I had a poke team setup...
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On August 31 2010 03:39 Soloside wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 03:31 spinesheath wrote:
So let me get this out of the way right now:
I will have 3 seperate stacks for Tears, Archangels and Manamunes, giving me up to 3k mana from those? If I build a Tear into Manamune and get another Tear, that one will continue the old Tear stack?
Hasn't been answered before: Is the Lichbane proc physical or magical damage? tear's proc is unique. I believe you only get what mana pool you have with Archangels, and then add on the manamune. As for lichbane, it's magical.
Not sure if I understand you correctly. Actually I don't really get what you mean at all.
Both AA and Tear have unique effects. But since they are different items they should still both give 1000 Mana unless explicitly stated otherwise.
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On August 31 2010 04:26 spinesheath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 03:39 Soloside wrote:On August 31 2010 03:31 spinesheath wrote:
So let me get this out of the way right now:
I will have 3 seperate stacks for Tears, Archangels and Manamunes, giving me up to 3k mana from those? If I build a Tear into Manamune and get another Tear, that one will continue the old Tear stack?
Hasn't been answered before: Is the Lichbane proc physical or magical damage? tear's proc is unique. I believe you only get what mana pool you have with Archangels, and then add on the manamune. As for lichbane, it's magical. Not sure if I understand you correctly. Actually I don't really get what you mean at all. Both AA and Tear have unique effects. But since they are different items they should still both give 1000 Mana unless explicitly stated otherwise.
Yea, tears and AA give you 1k mana each.
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On August 31 2010 04:34 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 04:26 spinesheath wrote:On August 31 2010 03:39 Soloside wrote:On August 31 2010 03:31 spinesheath wrote:
So let me get this out of the way right now:
I will have 3 seperate stacks for Tears, Archangels and Manamunes, giving me up to 3k mana from those? If I build a Tear into Manamune and get another Tear, that one will continue the old Tear stack?
Hasn't been answered before: Is the Lichbane proc physical or magical damage? tear's proc is unique. I believe you only get what mana pool you have with Archangels, and then add on the manamune. As for lichbane, it's magical. Not sure if I understand you correctly. Actually I don't really get what you mean at all. Both AA and Tear have unique effects. But since they are different items they should still both give 1000 Mana unless explicitly stated otherwise. Yea, tears and AA give you 1k mana each.
Oh you sure? I remember when I tried making a second AA, I couldn't get the mana bonus :/
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On August 30 2010 19:21 Nailpolish wrote:
u got raped first son i vouched for Brees's jungle ability and his knowledge about Olaf. you on the other hand made a short, ignorant, adamant statement on behalf of someone you don't even know and ended up being totally wrong when fact-checked haha.
On August 30 2010 19:42 hellohello wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2010 17:04 redtooth wrote:On August 30 2010 13:52 Nailpolish wrote:
lilballz max q on olaf first k WRAWRAWRAWRA (4:02): hey
whats your skill order
on olaf
LilBallz (4:03): wqqe
WRAWRAWRAWRA (4:03): do you max q first?
LilBallz (4:03): E get raped son. Brees is a one note,he can play sion well(still worse than lilballz) and thats about it,his jungling skillz are better than ur average jungler at best but his nowhere near ball's level.Lilballz is the best jungler in game followed by Maknoob when his not drunk on soju as for what to max on Olaf first,Q is so much better than E at early levels,Q+lizard is op slow and Lilballz might max E first but that doesn't mean you should also,Chauster,Maknoob,and Finrage max Q first and so do I,it makes ganking so much more fun and with coordinated teammates it's so much better than E. my 2 cents maknoon isn't even a dedicated jungler wtf are you talking about. Finkill doesn't even play Olaf, let alone play Olaf well, let alone play at all anymore. yet to see Chauster play Olaf but i'm sure he'd be good. actually i just checked their ranked stats and the three you've mentioned have played Olaf a total of 5 times (maknoon 1, chauster 4, finkill 0).
i've actually never seen Brees play Sion but his Olaf is solid along with the rest of his jungle heroes (ranging from shaco to BEAR STANCE). back when we were tryharding solos, we were ranked #1 and #7 with him dominating jungle and me dominating mid. there is a short list of people who i think can jungle better with any hero than Brees.
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On August 31 2010 04:43 Soloside wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 04:34 HazMat wrote:On August 31 2010 04:26 spinesheath wrote:On August 31 2010 03:39 Soloside wrote:On August 31 2010 03:31 spinesheath wrote:
So let me get this out of the way right now:
I will have 3 seperate stacks for Tears, Archangels and Manamunes, giving me up to 3k mana from those? If I build a Tear into Manamune and get another Tear, that one will continue the old Tear stack?
Hasn't been answered before: Is the Lichbane proc physical or magical damage? tear's proc is unique. I believe you only get what mana pool you have with Archangels, and then add on the manamune. As for lichbane, it's magical. Not sure if I understand you correctly. Actually I don't really get what you mean at all. Both AA and Tear have unique effects. But since they are different items they should still both give 1000 Mana unless explicitly stated otherwise. Yea, tears and AA give you 1k mana each. Oh you sure? I remember when I tried making a second AA, I couldn't get the mana bonus :/
If your Tear stack and AA stack are full (1k each) then you shouldn't get any more mana. If you only held Tear until 500 mana or so, build it into AA and get another tear then you should get another 500 mana on your Tear stack.
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haha theres really no need to defend it, i have put a lot of tips in this thread for playing olaf but i would never try to impose my playstyle on anyone. if you want to get Q, go for it. I run all CD blues so with E maxed you are looking at a 350+ damage nuke on a 3 sec CD. nothing to sneeze at.
P.S. if you profile lilballz you'll see that his olaf stats are much worse then his other jungling counterparts; i think there's room for improvement
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I remember going jungle Pantheon vs. lilballz jungle Olaf in solo queue once and he got all sorts of torn up. Dude's a monster with BEAR STANCE, but that doesn't mean he is the end-all be-all with every jungler.
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On August 31 2010 01:53 Mogwai wrote:
EDIT 2: holy shit! someone on LoL forums just suggested Madred's Razors on Sion so that when you use your ult in a teamfight near creep, you can just wail on creeps and then whenever you get a madred's proc, it's practically a soraka ult for your team LOL. That's gotta be the single most brilliant thing I've ever heard. Now I wanna jungle Sion especially hard.
I think I`ve mentioned this very idea myself before, when theorycrafting why jungle sion would be cool (its not because sion is just about the best laner out there).
But then I realized just how bad the splash on his healing is. Its like a tiamat, so I dropped it.
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To my knowledge, Lichbane proc adds your AP to your *physical* damage on your next attack.
I'm pretty sure it's not magic damage.
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^ that was my understanding as well but I don't feel confident enough to definitively state anything.
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On August 31 2010 04:56 Haemonculus wrote:
To my knowledge, Lichbane proc adds your AP to your *physical* damage on your next attack.
I'm pretty sure it's not magic damage.
Correct. if you have a caster heavy team and they are stacking MR, consider getting a lich bane on characters you normally wouldnt
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On August 31 2010 04:56 Haemonculus wrote:
To my knowledge, Lichbane proc adds your AP to your *physical* damage on your next attack.
I'm pretty sure it's not magic damage. correct. that's why it's good on nidalee and nobody else.
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On August 31 2010 05:00 redtooth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 04:56 Haemonculus wrote:
To my knowledge, Lichbane proc adds your AP to your *physical* damage on your next attack.
I'm pretty sure it's not magic damage. correct. that's why it's good on nidalee and nobody else.
Sion?
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On August 31 2010 05:00 redtooth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 04:56 Haemonculus wrote:
To my knowledge, Lichbane proc adds your AP to your *physical* damage on your next attack.
I'm pretty sure it's not magic damage. correct. that's why it's good on nidalee and nobody else.
Lies, its awesome on Evelyn(edit: and sion and I'm probably forgetting a couple more)! As for the Tears/AA/Masamune discussion: its the same unique for AA and Tears(and I'd assume it will be the same for Masamune) so you will only get 1k mana total from the passives.
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