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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 29 2010 23:44 GMT
#15301
On August 30 2010 08:40 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 08:37 Shikyo wrote:
On August 30 2010 08:34 Phrost wrote:
On August 30 2010 07:55 ghen wrote:
Nope, that's a wraith. And I'm a dragoon. I didn't even see my 500th!

wtf when do i get hydralisk

when you can make out wtf my new display picture is <_<


I said it was a turd, or an infested terran

You're supposed to get a hydra at 500 posts, I think the mods are screwing with you.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 29 2010 23:49 GMT
#15302
On August 30 2010 08:40 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 08:37 Shikyo wrote:
On August 30 2010 08:34 Phrost wrote:
On August 30 2010 07:55 ghen wrote:
Nope, that's a wraith. And I'm a dragoon. I didn't even see my 500th!

wtf when do i get hydralisk

when you can make out wtf my new display picture is <_<


I said it was a turd, or an infested terran

Oh right, infested Terran. Forgot those existed...


Anyway ehh... I'm not sure what to say :/ I haven't played the game in like a week. What are the current permabans?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
August 30 2010 00:08 GMT
#15303
mog wai ,olaf, ezreal, kayle , taric i think
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 30 2010 00:09 GMT
#15304
On August 30 2010 09:08 eagle wrote:
mog wai ,olaf, ezreal, kayle , taric i think


I agree totally.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
August 30 2010 00:13 GMT
#15305
kog maw i mean lol
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 30 2010 00:15 GMT
#15306
On August 30 2010 08:44 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 08:40 Phrost wrote:
On August 30 2010 08:37 Shikyo wrote:
On August 30 2010 08:34 Phrost wrote:
On August 30 2010 07:55 ghen wrote:
Nope, that's a wraith. And I'm a dragoon. I didn't even see my 500th!

wtf when do i get hydralisk

when you can make out wtf my new display picture is <_<


I said it was a turd, or an infested terran

You're supposed to get a hydra at 500 posts, I think the mods are screwing with you.


well im the best zergling ever /flex
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
August 30 2010 00:18 GMT
#15307
On August 30 2010 09:15 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 08:44 HazMat wrote:
On August 30 2010 08:40 Phrost wrote:
On August 30 2010 08:37 Shikyo wrote:
On August 30 2010 08:34 Phrost wrote:
On August 30 2010 07:55 ghen wrote:
Nope, that's a wraith. And I'm a dragoon. I didn't even see my 500th!

wtf when do i get hydralisk

when you can make out wtf my new display picture is <_<


I said it was a turd, or an infested terran

You're supposed to get a hydra at 500 posts, I think the mods are screwing with you.


well im the best zergling ever /flex


.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 00:39:07
August 30 2010 00:31 GMT
#15308
On August 30 2010 04:14 UniversalSnip wrote:
Alright, I was willing to let the playstyle thing drop, but apparently it returned in the night. Let's go back to my original statement and make it even more clear than it was, because I know some of you have forgotten what I'm arguing in the first place. I know it. I can tell by posts drawing bizarre conclusions like this:

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 17:37 HeavOnEarth wrote:
@universalsnip
since u didnt see my first post(?)

your logic applies to linear statistical variables- whereas every LoL game is different, dynamic.
you should know what corners you can cut, and how bad the player is within a few seconds of poking around, your limitations and theirs.
dying before teamfights is usually a strong indicator that you have fucked up
for example

you can either play your statistical route
"if i do dragon right now what are the chances that there is a ward"
you shouldn't do dragon, ever. 0% of the time(your logic)


Here's my first post.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 13:26 UniversalSnip wrote:
A note about the word playstyle.

On August 29 2010 12:57 Phrost wrote:
Ofcourse everyone should keep in mind that runes/masteries/etc are all subject to your own playstyle. There are no "BEST" rune pages (althought some choices for individual runes are clear winners over others) everything comes down to how you play the champion with the runes you have.


This is a legitimate use. It's a warning that you shouldn't go on auto-pilot with runes anymore than you should with item builds - in other words to show adaptability so that your understanding of the game continues to grow. It's a method of exploring new ways of playing rather than an endpoint.

There's another use of playstyle that is a red flag though. Coming from mtg I've been trained to disdain it. The decision-making process in that game (and in every game) is deterministic - all else being equal, there's one right choice, period. When people want to dodge out of this, they say some nonsense about their playstyle.

This is never a good excuse because in this sense, playstyle refers to a lazy method of analysis. "I do it because it fits my playstyle" is code for "I do it because when I don't know what to do, I just do X." It shows a lack of reflection.


So what is a bad use of playstyle? It's an excuse for not looking hard for the correct play. Is the correct play always accessible? No, and it's not in mtg either. It can be realistically impossible to actually determine the correct play, or even theoretically impossible I guess - irrelevant. The point is that too often people make a decision that they should have thought about more because they have this idea that they should slot things into their playstyle, instead of looking for what's best. It's also a method people admitting a mistake retrospectively. I caught myself making this mistake recently in quake. Why did I make that terrible attack on RA when I had a low stack? I'm aggressive, I try to break control very actively. Well no, I did it because 'be aggressive and try to break control' is my shortcut for when I'm too lazy to actually decide whether a play is the best option.

There is a 'best play' that offers the best combination of reward if it works out, punishment if it fails, and probability of success. Sometimes finding it can be abstract, to the point of ridiculousness... but you should always be trying to figure whether what you have right now is it or not. A simple test is 'is this play worse than another play I could make?'

@zerg_russian: USnip, and as of a couple days ago yes.

+ Show Spoiler [blahblahblah] +
it's like you just read the part where i insulted you and moved on.
liek i said before, LoL is dynamic and not something you can calculate the rewards/punishments and therefore find the best angle of approach via statistics.
that logic only applies to poker, chess , etc.

Anyways, i assume the reason your argument is lacking in this thread is because you have shown no real knowledge of the actual game.
Therefore my conclusion is , perhaps you know what you're talking about, and because you're still new to the game you haven't realized
1) how to explain correctly using LoL metaphors instead of MTG or chess references 5% of this thread gets
2) you haven't played enough to realize that you logic is non-applicable to a game like LoL, where everything is in real-time.
That said, im pretty sure everyone's "playstyle" in LoL is to
1) not die before teamfights( feeding) while doing
a- farm as much as possible
b- gank as much as possible
aka "playing good"
So i have to ask, exactly who are you arguing against? because it seems like even if your logic applied to LoL, which it doesn't, everyone is already doing it.

Like i can kinda see where you're coming from, but its just ridiculously obvious stuff.
-Oh i farmed all game with kayle before, and win ezpz, i should do this every game and never gank

-I went into enemy base to get their blue buff. I was successful, i should do this every-time

-I am the best at playing solomid carry so i should mid every game regardless of team comp.

Aka , until you give us something that actually makes sense , we're just going to agree to disagree.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
August 30 2010 00:37 GMT
#15309
I just pick up LoL and i feel the game itself is kinda slow compare to Dota on wc3, someone else having this feeling?
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 00:42:50
August 30 2010 00:41 GMT
#15310
olaf? rofl that's random...

On August 30 2010 09:37 checo wrote:
I just pick up LoL and i feel the game itself is kinda slow compare to Dota on wc3, someone else having this feeling?

You're probably playing it at an extremely low level since it's a lot more fast-paced. Dota is definitely the slowest out of the trio(Avalon Online doesn't count, I played it twice and the DotA-ripoff is completely shitty in comparison to everything, it has worse graphics than even WC3 wtf. Yes, it's the WeMadeFox game that even sponsored an MSL, a complete piece of garbage.)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
August 30 2010 00:43 GMT
#15311
On August 30 2010 09:37 checo wrote:
I just pick up LoL and i feel the game itself is kinda slow compare to Dota on wc3, someone else having this feeling?
whenever i play DotA it feels slow compared to LoL. so much more skill spamming in this game IMO.
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Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
August 30 2010 00:46 GMT
#15312
if you want something fast, play hon >_<
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
August 30 2010 00:47 GMT
#15313
I see Amumu, Morgana, Warwick banned a lot. Also Ezreal ofc, still Shaco most games, and Garen a ton. Haven't seen any Koggy bans yet, but things are slow to trickle down to 1450.
By most frequent: Shaco, Amumu, Ezreal, Garen, Morgana, Warwick. No one bans Kayle that I've seen (even though they should).
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
August 30 2010 01:12 GMT
#15314
When did olaf get so good? Doesn't he have trouble laning, and gets really low on jungling, so easily harassable?
Whaaaa?
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 01:16:19
August 30 2010 01:14 GMT
#15315
Amummu is the big ban now at my elo(1400)(banned every game).. which kind of sucks cause I was kind of leaning on emummy for most of my wins(something like 67% win rate before over 60 games.. dropped a little now)... Ez is a ban, I've seen kog being banned 2 for 3 today, and the third game kog was doing some good work, so I think while kog might not change the metagame, he sure does have some kind of impact where I'm at and people are catching on. Kayle still going unnoticed, thankfully, cause I lean on Kayle when I'm first pick cause I know im gonna need to carry somewhat. I love how she just solo pushes lanes...

Taric/Morgana/Garen are the other bans...

not seeing heimer banned anymore but still seeing him do well at 1400s, shaco... not doing well, in my games atleast


I think Olaf is just a strong char because he can build as a tank, and hit really hard, and most importantly immune to cc... he's one of the anti kog maw chars btw, eats koggy alive
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 30 2010 01:20 GMT
#15316
Oh, and I guess it's general consensus that Urgot-thing isn't all that good, but what about Galio? Is he kind of meh or... hmm he has some nice synergy-possibilities =S
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 30 2010 01:22 GMT
#15317
On August 30 2010 10:20 Shikyo wrote:
Oh, and I guess it's general consensus that Urgot-thing isn't all that good, but what about Galio? Is he kind of meh or... hmm he has some nice synergy-possibilities =S


Galio has a really strong laning phase. and then he turns into a mini-amumu so its good but not as good as amumu.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 30 2010 01:28 GMT
#15318
On August 30 2010 08:44 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 08:40 Phrost wrote:
On August 30 2010 08:37 Shikyo wrote:
On August 30 2010 08:34 Phrost wrote:
On August 30 2010 07:55 ghen wrote:
Nope, that's a wraith. And I'm a dragoon. I didn't even see my 500th!

wtf when do i get hydralisk

when you can make out wtf my new display picture is <_<


I said it was a turd, or an infested terran

You're supposed to get a hydra at 500 posts, I think the mods are screwing with you.

he probably spammed alot, i think there was a post that you gotta make x posts in x amount of time or something
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H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
August 30 2010 01:50 GMT
#15319
Keep it to LoL, guys. FYI, a certain time needs to pass before icons move up the ranks.

So I watched Hotshot's stream yesterday (what with the Olaf discussion I guess everyone did..). Was pretty cool seeing Loci put his own advice to practice, haha. I guess wards help Panth to gank with ult a lot, so you can either see the path they take or the path they don't. I mean, wards always help, but..
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BluFlu
Profile Joined April 2010
United States13 Posts
August 30 2010 01:59 GMT
#15320
whats the new kennen builds now a days
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