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On August 23 2010 22:08 Yiruru wrote:
Demacian Justice
Range 400
I told you Utah :| I died at 800 range both times. Judgement is 660.
I think its functionality was changed recently to be castable at 400 but because the animation takes so long to complete it won't fizzle at a longer range if someone is running. As a result it looks like hes ulting you from much further away but its just the delay from his casting animation that makes it look that way.
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On August 23 2010 22:08 Yiruru wrote:
Demacian Justice
Range 400
I told you Utah :| I died at 800 range both times. Judgement is 660.
800 range my butt you were in melee attack range both times on my screen. 800 range is further than my Q, which is like 3/4 an entire screen there's no way you were that far.
Didn't know Judgement was that big, though.
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On August 23 2010 22:10 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 22:08 Yiruru wrote:
Demacian Justice
Range 400
I told you Utah :| I died at 800 range both times. Judgement is 660.
I think its functionality was changed recently to be castable at 400 but because the animation takes so long to complete it won't fizzle at a longer range if someone is running. As a result it looks like hes ulting you from much further away but its just the delay from his casting animation that makes it look that way.
Makes sense, although it looked to me like he was dying maybe two thumbs away from Garen so it really wasn't that far :p
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Actually, is that judgement's wingspan? I can see it being 300 both ways...
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I was 3/4 screen away both times yes, unless that was only what i saw due to server delay or w/e.
Dunno why they made it function like that, and not just make the stupid thing instant. They already had so many bugs related to that with Cho and Singed.
@Blitz Akatosh used to build Mobility Trinity every game, but that was like 8 months ago. Haven't seen a good player main Blitz since him though.
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On August 23 2010 22:14 Yiruru wrote:
I was 3/4 screen away both times yes, unless that was only what i saw due to server delay or w/e.
I dunno I saw you die like 3-4 inches (6-8cm) from his at the most, I believe when you complained about "screen" you died right next to him (as he'd popped out of bush to ult you). I don't think that's even past my Q range (more like my E range) so I never thought it was odd.
Felt more like we lost because none of our guys could tank shit, regretted picking Kass over Udyr w/e.
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I never played Blitz, but I definitely would get items like Frozen Heart or Randuins on him. Your main goal is to hook someone and have your allies kill him. So either you will get a free kill or you will end up in the center of a teamfight (or you will miss all the time...). CDR allows you to hook more people (and more AoE silence), while the slowing effects help make sure that the hooked guy doesn't get away and while you're in the middle of a fight, AoE slows and HP/Def can never be wrong.
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Was something like 15cm on my screen so idk. No more retarded fancy jukes in LoL from now on =[
That game was mostly loss when bottom lane couldn't afford to buy a ward and died 3 times to Amumu ganks because of it
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On August 23 2010 22:29 Yiruru wrote:
Was something like 15cm on my screen so idk. No more retarded fancy jukes in LoL from now on =[
That game was mostly loss when bottom lane couldn't afford to buy a ward and died 3 times to Amumu ganks because of it
Hah, that too.
I hate explaining myself during games, but anyways the reason I went for SS (aside from the fact that it's usually what I get ~that time) despite it being obvious I wasn't gonna mass-stack anytime soon was I felt like the game was 90% over by that point, so I gambled on a miracle that didn't happen. By getting SS, if we were to win one teamfight we'd be back in the game or close to it. Unfortunately the next fight we got absolutely smashed and that was that.
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What the fuck is a centimeter?
< /ignorant american>
They didn't make garen's ult instant because then you wouldnt be able to see the cool sword come down from the sky and dispense demacian justice all over your chest.
It doesn't really matter if it goes further, as long as he starts casting it at 400 range it's alright with me.
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Can someone explain creep aggro to me? Sometimes random creeps attack you, which is annoying.
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Wow..
I got completely denied, they warded blue (which i saw coming so i started at mini golem) a few mins later i went for our blue and they came after me, no mia call zz and got ganked. Their WW proceeded to dominate the jungle and gank our team.
I made the smart decision for once and joined top lane to farm up. mid game team fight started and my team where all on the same page which is just awesome. Nice roaming battle in and out fighting. Managed to turn it around, push their shit in. I went from being the lowest lvl in the game to having 15 kill assists and 4 turrets + nexus 
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On August 23 2010 22:40 Phrost wrote:
What the fuck is a centimeter?
< /ignorant american>
1 inch = roughly 2.5 centimeters
3-4 inches would roughly equal 7-10cm
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On August 23 2010 22:44 cascades wrote:
Can someone explain creep aggro to me? Sometimes random creeps attack you, which is annoying.
Creeps or minions?
Minions will attack you in two scenarios: If you hit a enemy champion while around them or if you are the only target in there aggro range. There aggro range is pretty small and resets easily however.
Creeps should only attack you if you hit them. If multiple then who they hit is based on who does the most damage I believe. If creeps are randomly attacking you then it would be from an AE ability like amumu's cry left on or sunfire cape AE which will hit them if you get to close.
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On August 23 2010 22:51 Vykenos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 22:44 cascades wrote:
Can someone explain creep aggro to me? Sometimes random creeps attack you, which is annoying. Creeps or minions? Minions will attack you in two scenarios: If you hit a enemy champion while around them or if you are the only target in there aggro range. There aggro range is pretty small and resets easily however. Creeps should only attack you if you hit them. If multiple then who they hit is based on who does the most damage I believe. If creeps are randomly attacking you then it would be from an AE ability like amumu's cry left on or sunfire cape AE which will hit them if you get to close.
I started to play garen, so was annoyed when random minions, say the range ones, hit me for no reason at all. I am pretty sure wasn't only target in their range, so I thought it was due to the range ones hitting the ones closest to them and the melee ones hitting whoever the fuck they want if the minion they are wailing on moves. If what u said is true, sunfire capes = no more garen passive.
Anyway, about the judgement thing above, from playing garen, my ulti has about400 range. It then has a long ass animation of death from above, which kills you even if you are 1000 range away in the case of a jumping tristana, which is pretty hilarious.
I guess they keep it this way so garens can rage whenever an enemy player picks vlad and u cant use ur ulti on him as he will just sink into a pool and waste ur ulti.
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FFFFFFFFFFFFFF that happened to me WAY more than it's supposed to be. Screw that pool.
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On August 23 2010 22:10 Southlight wrote:
Edit2:
Actually, is that judgement's wingspan? I can see it being 300 both ways...
it's gotta be the wingspan... 600 is Pantheon's Spear Shot range and I'm definitely not hitting people that far away with judgment.
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I just played a game that made me wonder why I don't play udyr more...
In the lobby I ask "jungle udyr or olaf?", one guy replies telling me that he knows my udyr is beastly and to get him.
I hadn't played manbearpig in at least 2 weeks so I had no idea what sort of lucky game I had played with this guy, especially since udyr was my first jungler and I have improved A LOT by playing jungle mumu, olaf and cho (jungle cho was because we didn't have any jungler or silence/disable, don't cuss).
So we start the game, AP sion takes the 1v2, vlad mid, panth (who was pumping E and never shot a Q all game) was playin the carry with soraka. lv4 gank gives us the kill on blitz, sion manages to recall and breathe. And here comes my first fail of the game: I mistime an animation cancel on their blue and die to it. Luckily I respawn at about 7 mins and our blue respawned as I got there. Get blue, save vlad who almost got killed by morgana and get the gank.
Moving on, I'm at their red and suddenly their TF hits lv 6 and manages to gank me without me getting the xp. Since it was past the 13 min mark I decide to sit on 2 HoGs and decide to gamble on delaying my negatron in favor of a Giant's Belt. I help soraka get our blue buff while pantheon recalled, we proceed to push their lane and get double kill+tower from full to 0.
A ward+clairvoyance allows us to triple kill them+steal dragon at around the 13 min mark (2nd dragon of the game, extremely late since I had to gank/substitute a lot).
From here it was a downhill game for us, they surrendered at 25 after we 4-0'd them a couple times in 5v5 at their tower and pulled off a nice brush trap. The diving power of AP Sion+Vlad+Udyr+Soraka is just ridiculous, we were literally running circles around them forcing to switch targets by countercharging them while they were chasing us.
^Note that this isn't to boast or anything, it's just that after the game the EU server crashed and won't let me log in again-.- And I wanna play some LoL...
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Konami code doesn't work too... And i was a game away to 1400...Wtb servers.
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+ Show Spoiler +On August 23 2010 20:25 kdgns wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 17:47 TheYango wrote:On August 23 2010 07:31 Kultcher wrote:On August 23 2010 04:23 Phrost wrote:footman is an hero Epic genius. I keep finding myself watching this video over and over. Also, I just started playing Zilean. Any advice on how to play/build him? If you dont have health quints start with dorans ring, otherwise go sapphire crystal. 9 in offense to get CDR and MPEN, 21 in utility, I like to get heal if playing support, otherwise feel free to get whatever your team needs, teleport, clairvoyance, clarity, dont really need ghost or flash, since you have E your skill distribution will be QWQEQR, then R>Q>E>W harass at level 1 by going up to them and pressing Q, then backing off, they will either have to back off and get zoned, or go through creepline and damage his own creeps with the aoe. at level 3 they should be at half health, calculate how much you're doing to them by putting a level 2 on them, then calculate how much 2 of that will be, continue harassing till they reach that number, then go QWQ on them and auto attack, they will die. Get Tears of goddes->sorcerer boots (offensive)/merc tread (defensive)->zhonya+blue elixer->archmage staff->soul shroud if you need health, more archmage staff, or for lulz, lichbane/guardian angel, remember to keep your blue elixer Zilean's main problem is that you require some coordination, your teamates must know the second they are ulted so they do not run away then realize they should be staying, that requires trust that solo queue doesnt really give, you need to build up this trust by continualy saving people throughout the game, you mus also E to save people and E to slow people. E an ally if that ally has a disable that requires them to be closer (udyr, lizard buff/frozen mallet). When you die and respawn, if your ult is on CD you should E yourself then W while moving out of the fountain, you get there faster and you lower ult's cd. Remember smartcasting alt+skill=cast on self, for example if you are running away, instead of pressing E then clicking on yourself, press alt+E and you will speed yourself up, more importantly, if you are going to cast your ult on yourself in a hectic team fight, don't try to R+click, no matter how fast you move the mouse its not as fast as alt+R. similarly since Q's aoe is 100%, dont bother casting on enemies in team fights, since they will move away from each other, instead, cast it on yourself (pre-battle if you know when your team is initiating) and they will run into the damage.
Thanks for the advice, now I just need to learn this 9/0/21 stuff. What do those abbreviations mean?
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Looks like I have to play some ranked games so I can avoid the DISCRIMINATION (!) in TL inhouses.
1500 only? If Ruken isn't online I'm the proest Nasus in liquidparty 
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