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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
August 09 2010 21:31 GMT
#11161
On August 10 2010 06:29 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 00:48 Shikyo wrote:
EDIT: Or just go mass Phantom Dancer and max Vorpal first, it's so gud
please tell me this was sarcasm.
Mass dodge > dps, and massive vorpal spam lets you dominate mid.

Of course it was sarcasm, detectors geez.
sorry but coming from you i can't really tell which is sarcasm and which is ignorance.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 21:37:16
August 09 2010 21:36 GMT
#11162
"http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=2340456#post2340456"
So, about Eve...

I talked to some QA guys - her ultimate is still being looked at internally. From what they've played it makes her ******edly overpowered (and we're not talking versus Nunu Bot.) I can't say exactly what it is, but it's extremely effective and solves a lot of her issues with one ability - which perhaps makes it too good.

That's why we can't give you an ETA - it hasn't even gone into the test realm yet and it needs some more consideration. The QA guy I was talking with was actually trying to trace a pantheon bug while having this conversation with me - they're very busy with upkeep, so please don't get discouraged. With 56 champs in counting, a lot of people feel like it's "just their champion" that gets left behind or forgotten.

Now take your goons and leave Britney alone


I thought this was an interesting post so I thought I would share. I'm very interested to see what this new ult for eve is. Also pantheon bug? Could they be potentially fixing HSS?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 09 2010 21:39 GMT
#11163
Some months ago the remakes for Eve they were thinking about:
Evelynn's passive remake: Evelynn takes -30% damage from Area of Effect spells.
Evelynn Hate Spike change: Bounces to two targets now instead of one and now has 15% Spell Vamp.
Evelynn Ravage change: No longer requires to attack from behind to reduce armor/magic resistance.
Evelynn Shadow Walk change: Time-to-stealth changed to 1 second (from 1.5), and increases her movement speed while she's stealthed. Stealth now lasts 40 seconds instead of scaling.
Evelynn Malice and Spite remake: Evelynn grows off malice and spite, drastically increasing her cooldown reduction on spells and making her significantly more resistant to attacks. Lasts 15 seconds.


Probably different by now but it's a good starting point for speculating, if so desired :p
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 09 2010 21:41 GMT
#11164
On August 10 2010 06:28 Mogwai wrote:
*sigh*

ok, let's put it this way... Kass's Q has stupid range, like, really really dumb range. It outranges all auto-attacks aside from high level trist and pretty much all non-skillshot nukes. What Utah's gonna do is sit there dancing behind his creeps playing a game of chicken with you, when you go for a last hit, he's going to shoot you with a Q while you're in your attack animation, then back out. When you choose to make an issue of it and just forego last hitting to fight with kass, you're forcing yourself to fight him amongst his creeps, which will draw creep aggro onto yourself, and in the meantime, he's taking 15% less damage from your skill based harass because of his imba passive plus he'll burst you about as hard as an equally leveled Annie up until level 6. These are losing exchanges, especially since SoS is giving him unreasonably high regen, which along with his built-in IMBA ability mitigation passive makes fighting attrition vs. Kass a losing proposition. I understand that Vlad's a great attrition fighter, but I think against Kass, you can't really fuck with him without taking more than you give him.

So by lvl 3 he's going to have about 1-2 minion kills and I'm going to have about 15? I'll take that as Vlad, since as you might know, I can just heal it back up. You don't even need to go out of your way to spam skills on him when they don't work so well, if he's not getting any lasthits he's losing the lane really horribly, if he comes to get some you harrass.

It's okay if he gets to damage you a little, if he stays out of minion range, you just get every single lasthit and can stay alive with your Q and the regen item you hopely picked up vs Kass(Doran's Shield should work quite well). I really do not know how it's a stalemate if you have 10 times the amount of his minion kills. You can even go back to base at like lvl 5 if you're having trouble staying alive and still be way ahead because you got way more minion kills earlier on in the laning. Also, I can attack you without drawing minion aggro if I position myself properly. Of course you don't autoattack like a newbie.

I also would love to 1v1 vs Southlight, he'd need to come to EU server though.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 21:43:59
August 09 2010 21:43 GMT
#11165
On August 10 2010 06:41 Shikyo wrote:
I also would love to 1v1 vs Southlight, but i like to dodge.
fixed. vlad is free next week, what runes do you need for you to be satisfied with a matchup on NA server? we'll see if we can't arrange a borrowed account for you.
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 21:55:44
August 09 2010 21:44 GMT
#11166
On August 08 2010 11:36 oberon wrote:
Still learning GP. Just played a game where I got trinity force, ghostblade, infinity edge, had a carry ez, a carry mummy, and was 6/4/23...and we lost. One of the issues was that, while my hit'n'run DPS was stupid, my teamfight DPS was too low.

So. Many questions.

Is GP only viable if either his ult or his Q are instakills, or he tanks? Or does your team have to know to just avoid long-engage 5v5s, since GP just can't add enough to them? I notice that his recommended boots are sorc shoes...wtf? I thought parrrley was physical now? I opened Sheen, since it should be like +50 flat damage to parrrley, but I just wasn't feeling it. Should I really just go avarice -> IE -> ghostblade -> tank items?

I really like all GP's skills, but I have yet to unlock the secret to success with him...

Edit: also, should I be getting SotO and leviathan? His ult seems super-awesome for KSing/assist stacking, and his W makes him really tricky to kill.



Definitely get one avarice blade on GP. It's a free 12% crit chance for you as you'll be turning it into a ghostblade later on. One avarice blade is so so so worth it. Even if you don't turn it into a ghostblade it's still worth it. Even if you're going tankplank get an avarice blade!

Sorc shoes are for his ult, I'd only get them if you have an amumu on your team and are going tankplank. Otherwise get Merc's treads please.

You really shouldn't team fight without your ultimate but that shouldn't be too hard to do. Mid-Late game you should usually only use your ult in team fights anyway. When you shoot of your ultimate you just gotta auto attack/parrrley in the middle of it and they will definitely run/lose if it's a 5v5. I haven't been GP in a while and with ranked I'm only 7/7 on him but I still think he's a great support hero, his ult is one of the best.


BTW,
Are there only two people in TL who are in the WCG?

If so, Gl Neo and redtooth!

Kass > Vlad. Hahahah.
Retvrn to Forvms
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 09 2010 21:45 GMT
#11167
On August 10 2010 06:43 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 06:41 Shikyo wrote:
I also would love to 1v1 vs Southlight, but i like to dodge.
fixed. vlad is free next week, what runes do you need for you to be satisfied with a matchup on NA server? we'll see if we can't arrange a borrowed account for you.

Well I have 220 ping on US and the last time I tried playing as Ezreal it was just impossible. Call it dodging if you want.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
August 09 2010 21:48 GMT
#11168
On August 10 2010 06:39 Southlight wrote:
Some months ago the remakes for Eve they were thinking about:
Show nested quote +
Evelynn's passive remake: Evelynn takes -30% damage from Area of Effect spells.
Evelynn Hate Spike change: Bounces to two targets now instead of one and now has 15% Spell Vamp.
Evelynn Ravage change: No longer requires to attack from behind to reduce armor/magic resistance.
Evelynn Shadow Walk change: Time-to-stealth changed to 1 second (from 1.5), and increases her movement speed while she's stealthed. Stealth now lasts 40 seconds instead of scaling.
Evelynn Malice and Spite remake: Evelynn grows off malice and spite, drastically increasing her cooldown reduction on spells and making her significantly more resistant to attacks. Lasts 15 seconds.


Probably different by now but it's a good starting point for speculating, if so desired :p


That's just bullshit if it were really like that.

lolol, I am now run into you and stun 3 of you at once and then gimp your carry or tank, and then do it again in less than 10 seconds.

Oh and you still have to buy oracle to deal with me because otherwise I get freebie initiation on your team.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
August 09 2010 21:48 GMT
#11169
what team/division is Neo in?
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 09 2010 21:50 GMT
#11170
Well I guess I can play, but I don't have access to LoL until next sunday. Next week I have every day though, but I don't think Vlad is free anymore then. O_o Sounds like dodging I'm sure >_> But I need to be here for a week because my sister has her confirmation next weekend and all 30 of her relatives are going to be in our house and hence there's no room for me.

At least I can use 220 ping as an excuse >_>
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
August 09 2010 21:59 GMT
#11171
Looks like Region 1. I'm not sure if he's a sub or not though. :o


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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 09 2010 22:07 GMT
#11172
Chripy vs Hotshotgg/bigfatjiji 2man q on clg.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
August 09 2010 22:35 GMT
#11173
redtooth - I don't know if you've gotten your answer from another source, but given the harsh words I get in unranked playing Taric, it probably has something do with with the fact that he's nigh-impossible to kill without an Ignite effect while being almost pure support/tank. It feels like it's almost impossible to harass me or my partner out of my lane if we're both playing half-intelligently, and it's super easy to harass them out with my longevity.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
August 09 2010 22:36 GMT
#11174
On August 10 2010 06:24 redtooth wrote:
i guess nobody heeded my call for quality. seriously from now on i'm gonna call out any post that is remotely wrong. THE EYE OF WRAWRAWRAWRA IS WATCHING.


I can wholeheartedly endorse this message and I thank you for your service.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 09 2010 22:41 GMT
#11175
On August 10 2010 06:44 Chrispy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 11:36 oberon wrote:
Still learning GP. Just played a game where I got trinity force, ghostblade, infinity edge, had a carry ez, a carry mummy, and was 6/4/23...and we lost. One of the issues was that, while my hit'n'run DPS was stupid, my teamfight DPS was too low.

So. Many questions.

Is GP only viable if either his ult or his Q are instakills, or he tanks? Or does your team have to know to just avoid long-engage 5v5s, since GP just can't add enough to them? I notice that his recommended boots are sorc shoes...wtf? I thought parrrley was physical now? I opened Sheen, since it should be like +50 flat damage to parrrley, but I just wasn't feeling it. Should I really just go avarice -> IE -> ghostblade -> tank items?

I really like all GP's skills, but I have yet to unlock the secret to success with him...

Edit: also, should I be getting SotO and leviathan? His ult seems super-awesome for KSing/assist stacking, and his W makes him really tricky to kill.



Definitely get one avarice blade on GP. It's a free 12% crit chance for you as you'll be turning it into a ghostblade later on. One avarice blade is so so so worth it. Even if you don't turn it into a ghostblade it's still worth it. Even if you're going tankplank get an avarice blade!

Sorc shoes are for his ult, I'd only get them if you have an amumu on your team and are going tankplank. Otherwise get Merc's treads please.

You really shouldn't team fight without your ultimate but that shouldn't be too hard to do. Mid-Late game you should usually only use your ult in team fights anyway. When you shoot of your ultimate you just gotta auto attack/parrrley in the middle of it and they will definitely run/lose if it's a 5v5. I haven't been GP in a while and with ranked I'm only 7/7 on him but I still think he's a great support hero, his ult is one of the best.


BTW,
Are there only two people in TL who are in the WCG?

If so, Gl Neo and redtooth!

Kass > Vlad. Hahahah.

How do you build tankplank?
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
August 09 2010 22:50 GMT
#11176
On August 10 2010 07:07 HazMat wrote:
Chripy vs Hotshotgg/bigfatjiji 2man q on clg.


I watched the last 10 minutes of this game, Amumu's ult won every teamfight.
it's my first day
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 23:07:10
August 09 2010 22:55 GMT
#11177
Omg that game was so frustrating for me. I'm at a PC cafe and I don't know what would happen but everytime a fight happened it automatically went to the desktop! So I had to frantically alt tab my way back to the game and then commence with the fight.

At that last fight there it did that to me again but this time when I alt tabbed to get back to LoL it wouldn't load for like 10 seconds and when it finally did I was dead haha. Gaaah! I must've done absolutely nothing in that last team fight. They were all at our tower, it magically fucked around and went to desktop and 10 seconds later when it loaded I was dead. ((((

Man bigfatjiji's vlad was annoying/good. >_>
Retvrn to Forvms
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 23:00:43
August 09 2010 22:59 GMT
#11178
Fucking shit.

What the hell, I'm level 27 and people are STILL leaving like freaks? People are still this bad? Trynd dies before 30 seconds to an Alistar with REVIVE/SMITE. Our teemo leaves after Trynd fails epicly, then our Karthus leaves after feeding Mord in mid 5 deaths in under 3 minutes, uggghhhhh

What the fuck. How are people THIS bad at this high level?

FML this matchmaking v-v
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
August 09 2010 23:05 GMT
#11179
Hmm tankplank kind of varies. I like tankplank against heavy physical dps teams but you don't see many of those.

Standard Tankplank

boots 1
Avarice blade
Mercs treads
Sunfire Cape
Atma's Impaler
Youmoos Ghostblade
Sunfire cape/Infinity Edge

If it's heavy AP team throw in a banshees after atma's impaler.
Although if it's heavy AP team I'd recommend just going Dps instead.
Retvrn to Forvms
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 23:08:37
August 09 2010 23:06 GMT
#11180
On August 10 2010 07:35 Niton wrote:
redtooth - I don't know if you've gotten your answer from another source, but given the harsh words I get in unranked playing Taric, it probably has something do with with the fact that he's nigh-impossible to kill without an Ignite effect while being almost pure support/tank. It feels like it's almost impossible to harass me or my partner out of my lane if we're both playing half-intelligently, and it's super easy to harass them out with my longevity.


Well...people initiate and focus targets stupidly without taking Taric into account at all, and then bitch when someone they're suppose to kill doesn't die because of stun interruption and heal. Can't deny he's a great champ, but he's got 0 initiation power for a tank.

As far as tanking goes, he's only REALLY good at tanking the tower and abusing the enemy team's fail-initiations.
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