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oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 02:37:36
August 08 2010 02:36 GMT
#10821
Still learning GP. Just played a game where I got trinity force, ghostblade, infinity edge, had a carry ez, a carry mummy, and was 6/4/23...and we lost. One of the issues was that, while my hit'n'run DPS was stupid, my teamfight DPS was too low.

So. Many questions.

Is GP only viable if either his ult or his Q are instakills, or he tanks? Or does your team have to know to just avoid long-engage 5v5s, since GP just can't add enough to them? I notice that his recommended boots are sorc shoes...wtf? I thought parrrley was physical now? I opened Sheen, since it should be like +50 flat damage to parrrley, but I just wasn't feeling it. Should I really just go avarice -> IE -> ghostblade -> tank items?

I really like all GP's skills, but I have yet to unlock the secret to success with him...

Edit: also, should I be getting SotO and leviathan? His ult seems super-awesome for KSing/assist stacking, and his W makes him really tricky to kill.
TheGreenMachine
Profile Joined March 2010
United States730 Posts
August 08 2010 02:53 GMT
#10822
On August 08 2010 11:35 skyTL wrote:
My friend and I have been arguing, so I thought I would post it here and get your opinion.

Who is more of a tank? Rammus or Shen?

Rammus cuz he doesnt get banned
Don't forget to get everyone you know to play HOTS so this game we love called Starcraft will live on. Every little bit helps. ^^
Danzepol
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States211 Posts
August 08 2010 02:54 GMT
#10823
On August 08 2010 11:36 oberon wrote:
Still learning GP. Just played a game where I got trinity force, ghostblade, infinity edge, had a carry ez, a carry mummy, and was 6/4/23...and we lost. One of the issues was that, while my hit'n'run DPS was stupid, my teamfight DPS was too low.

So. Many questions.

Is GP only viable if either his ult or his Q are instakills, or he tanks? Or does your team have to know to just avoid long-engage 5v5s, since GP just can't add enough to them? I notice that his recommended boots are sorc shoes...wtf? I thought parrrley was physical now? I opened Sheen, since it should be like +50 flat damage to parrrley, but I just wasn't feeling it. Should I really just go avarice -> IE -> ghostblade -> tank items?

I really like all GP's skills, but I have yet to unlock the secret to success with him...

Edit: also, should I be getting SotO and leviathan? His ult seems super-awesome for KSing/assist stacking, and his W makes him really tricky to kill.



ive been running chrispys build to great success recently.

dorans ring-boots-IE-banshees-atmas-ghostblade.

i find i do pretty decent damage through attacking/parleying whenever its up.

and the sorc boots are for his ult.
in a fox with a box
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
August 08 2010 03:20 GMT
#10824
On August 08 2010 11:35 skyTL wrote:
My friend and I have been arguing, so I thought I would post it here and get your opinion.

Who is more of a tank? Rammus or Shen?


Shen sucks balls.

He has no defensive abilities (feint doesn't count) and he can't farm all that well, so he drops like a fly when focused.

Amumu and Rammus are so much better.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
August 08 2010 03:20 GMT
#10825
On August 08 2010 11:36 oberon wrote:
Still learning GP. Just played a game where I got trinity force, ghostblade, infinity edge, had a carry ez, a carry mummy, and was 6/4/23...and we lost. One of the issues was that, while my hit'n'run DPS was stupid, my teamfight DPS was too low.

So. Many questions.

Is GP only viable if either his ult or his Q are instakills, or he tanks? Or does your team have to know to just avoid long-engage 5v5s, since GP just can't add enough to them? I notice that his recommended boots are sorc shoes...wtf? I thought parrrley was physical now? I opened Sheen, since it should be like +50 flat damage to parrrley, but I just wasn't feeling it. Should I really just go avarice -> IE -> ghostblade -> tank items?

I really like all GP's skills, but I have yet to unlock the secret to success with him...

Edit: also, should I be getting SotO and leviathan? His ult seems super-awesome for KSing/assist stacking, and his W makes him really tricky to kill.

uhh from personal experience , you are having a really , really good game if ur ult nets you a kill, normal game if you manage to die just once, and a shitty game usually
then again im bad Q_Q
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
August 08 2010 04:01 GMT
#10826
yo i added you on sc2 redtooth, im pretty bad though, i think i shouldnt play protoss...they switched it from a macro race to a super micro race and im bad at micro.
Brees on in
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 08 2010 04:30 GMT
#10827
I need to upgrade my pc to fix a vid issue I have before I really delve into MP, but the SP is a blast(SP the vid buffering doesn't bother me since it just acts like a pause and not a huge lag spike). I am definitely an achievement whore so it has kept me occupied far more than it probably should =]
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 08 2010 04:40 GMT
#10828
On August 08 2010 12:20 APurpleCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 11:35 skyTL wrote:
My friend and I have been arguing, so I thought I would post it here and get your opinion.

Who is more of a tank? Rammus or Shen?


Shen sucks balls.

He has no defensive abilities (feint doesn't count) and he can't farm all that well, so he drops like a fly when focused.

Amumu and Rammus are so much better.


shen dominates until about level 14-16 when other champs are gettig stronger. Shen owns the laning phase and can turn a 2v1 gank into a counter double kill. Just because his lategame potential is very small doesn't mean he's a bad toon. Certainly better than rammus and comparing him to amumu isn't fair cause amumu best champ
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 04:42:55
August 08 2010 04:42 GMT
#10829
Hehe, weird to see SNK-Arcbound post here. It was pretty "wtf" to me when I saw you take smite on Fiddlesticks when I locked in early with Amumu w/ smite and you ignored me when I suggested you lane. That game got off to a pretty rough start but glad we pulled the win out. :p
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
August 08 2010 05:05 GMT
#10830
On August 08 2010 13:42 TieN.nS) wrote:
Hehe, weird to see SNK-Arcbound post here. It was pretty "wtf" to me when I saw you take smite on Fiddlesticks when I locked in early with Amumu w/ smite and you ignored me when I suggested you lane. That game got off to a pretty rough start but glad we pulled the win out. :p

You had ignite on amumu, so I sat for about 15-20 seconds. After I locked in, I saw your ignite changed to smite, I was thinking "fuckkkkkk". Having played jungle fiddle and amumu, fiddle can jungle better because he doesn't need to ever B. I'll even go so far as to say jungle fiddle can jungle faster than any other champion. And I believe they had no jungler, so I was planning on just splitting the jungle 1o'clock 7o'clock.

Laning fiddle is just bad, like a laning warwick or udyr.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
August 08 2010 05:10 GMT
#10831
Should Shaco jungle or lane?
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 05:13:19
August 08 2010 05:11 GMT
#10832
On August 08 2010 14:05 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 13:42 TieN.nS) wrote:
Hehe, weird to see SNK-Arcbound post here. It was pretty "wtf" to me when I saw you take smite on Fiddlesticks when I locked in early with Amumu w/ smite and you ignored me when I suggested you lane. That game got off to a pretty rough start but glad we pulled the win out. :p

You had ignite on amumu, so I sat for about 15-20 seconds. After I locked in, I saw your ignite changed to smite, I was thinking "fuckkkkkk". Having played jungle fiddle and amumu, fiddle can jungle better because he doesn't need to ever B. I'll even go so far as to say jungle fiddle can jungle faster than any other champion. And I believe they had no jungler, so I was planning on just splitting the jungle 1o'clock 7o'clock.

Laning fiddle is just bad, like a laning warwick or udyr.



hate to jump in but if I had fiddle + mummy on my team i would want the mummy to jungle, I am so poor and under leveled when I lane with mummy, I feel absolutely 100% useless. I pretty much won't take a tank(rammus/amummu) in solo que unless Im jungling which is kind of sad but that's how I feel, I will play taric on the off chance he's not banned and lane with him, cause it's a free win in that lane

The thing fiddle has is that nice fear and the early dragon, but amummu should just ask u to help at dragon at that point.

Fiddle has lane staying power with drain, and a nice farming skill in E, and can solo or duo lane fine. I prefer him to have a solo lane if he's laning though.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
August 08 2010 05:12 GMT
#10833
On August 08 2010 14:10 Gao Xi wrote:
Should Shaco jungle or lane?
dragon/baron/nexus. fastest way to level with shaco.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
August 08 2010 05:12 GMT
#10834
On August 08 2010 13:01 Brees wrote:
yo i added you on sc2 redtooth, im pretty bad though, i think i shouldnt play protoss...they switched it from a macro race to a super micro race and im bad at micro.
kk. i went from like 10-0 to 10-5 and am sad now lol. i still have no idea how this game works haha.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
August 08 2010 05:15 GMT
#10835
I can't play SC II until I get home from vacation my computer's charger decided to stop working so i cant use my computer.. and my sc II disc is inside. Luckily my gf's got a laptop as well :D

On another note, does anyone have any news from their WCG games or did no one play yet?
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
August 08 2010 05:15 GMT
#10836
On August 08 2010 14:11 BraveGhost wrote:
hate to jump in but if I had fiddle + mummy on my team i would want the mummy to jungle, I am so poor and under leveled when I lane with mummy, I feel absolutely 100% useless. I pretty much won't take a tank(rammus/amummu) in solo que unless Im jungling which is kind of sad but that's how I feel, I will play taric on the off chance he's not banned and lane with him, cause it's a free win in that lane

The thing fiddle has is that nice fear and the early dragon, but amummu should just ask u to help at dragon at that point.

Fiddle has lane staying power with drain, and a nice farming skill in E, and can solo or duo lane fine. I prefer him to have a solo lane if he's laning though.

Anything that jungles will be richer than a laner. Amumu can also solo dragon early. I'm not saying he didn't get screwed somewhat, I'm just saying fiddle levels faster, and can gank way easier.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
August 08 2010 05:20 GMT
#10837
On August 08 2010 13:40 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 12:20 APurpleCow wrote:
On August 08 2010 11:35 skyTL wrote:
My friend and I have been arguing, so I thought I would post it here and get your opinion.

Who is more of a tank? Rammus or Shen?
Shen sucks balls.

He has no defensive abilities (feint doesn't count) and he can't farm all that well, so he drops like a fly when focused.

Amumu and Rammus are so much better.
shen dominates until about level 14-16 when other champs are gettig stronger. Shen owns the laning phase and can turn a 2v1 gank into a counter double kill. Just because his lategame potential is very small doesn't mean he's a bad toon. Certainly better than rammus and comparing him to amumu isn't fair cause amumu best champ
you kids are ridiculous lol.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 05:37:48
August 08 2010 05:33 GMT
#10838
On August 08 2010 05:59 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 05:19 Gao Xi wrote:
Is Katarina viable at higher ELOs? 'cause i heard shes only good if she farms well.

kat is a good pick vs some certain dps mid, else she is ok. the important is how often she go ganking =)
On August 08 2010 06:28 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 06:05 Gao Xi wrote:
On August 08 2010 05:59 NB wrote:
On August 08 2010 05:19 Gao Xi wrote:
Is Katarina viable at higher ELOs? 'cause i heard shes only good if she farms well.

kat is a good pick vs some certain dps mid, else she is ok. the important is how often she go ganking =)

Certain DPS mid like what?

ashe tf corki, to a lesser extent trist
and she can fight mages like anivia ryze and veigar(lol)
On August 08 2010 14:15 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 14:11 BraveGhost wrote:
hate to jump in but if I had fiddle + mummy on my team i would want the mummy to jungle, I am so poor and under leveled when I lane with mummy, I feel absolutely 100% useless. I pretty much won't take a tank(rammus/amummu) in solo que unless Im jungling which is kind of sad but that's how I feel, I will play taric on the off chance he's not banned and lane with him, cause it's a free win in that lane

The thing fiddle has is that nice fear and the early dragon, but amummu should just ask u to help at dragon at that point.

Fiddle has lane staying power with drain, and a nice farming skill in E, and can solo or duo lane fine. I prefer him to have a solo lane if he's laning though.

Anything that jungles will be richer than a laner. Amumu can also solo dragon early. I'm not saying he didn't get screwed somewhat, I'm just saying fiddle levels faster, and can gank way easier.
more silliness.

On August 08 2010 06:37 Phrost wrote:
(14) Termination 4 Convenience (1st Round BYE)
Knaan *
Wreckedem
OXICLEAN
Rambo
AllisterAP
WRAWRAWRAWRA

GRATS DUDE
thanks. i was sure we'd be top 10 but whatever. there are some randoms in the bye lists. also, asier didn't join our team wtf? shows how much i've been out of it lol. whatever we'll just have to make do.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
August 08 2010 05:41 GMT
#10839
that oxiclean guy is horrible, hope hes a sub
Brees on in
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 05:51:28
August 08 2010 05:43 GMT
#10840
On August 08 2010 14:41 Brees wrote:
that oxiclean guy is horrible, hope hes a sub
i'm the sub haha. punishment for being mia for so long. he's not bad but he does stupid shit in pubs. jungle TF/teemo for example. also, friend request isn't popping for me in sc2. you sure you got the right name?

edit: supposedly our low seeding is my fault LOL. my premade elo stayed the same for the last few weeks so it dropped the average haha.
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