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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 05 2010 19:52 GMT
#10441
triforce is kind of okay on ezreal although I think it's way too costy and I'd much rather just get a bloodthirster =S
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
GodIsNotHere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada395 Posts
August 05 2010 19:52 GMT
#10442
On August 06 2010 00:50 Mogwai wrote:
Uhg, I'm glad Riot finally posted in my fucking Pantheon thread, but it's the same old bullshit about how everything else was needed, but they might've overnerfed the AD ratios on HSS.

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=2269817#post2269817

God, comparing Judgment to HSS made me pissed:

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=173530&page=26#post2281181

Guess I just need to play Garen now or something.

Lol yeah HSS is pretty worthless now an yeah its stupid to compare it to judgement.
In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Goodwill.
Nao
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland166 Posts
August 05 2010 20:03 GMT
#10443
On August 06 2010 04:06 spinesheath wrote:
So it's only 78 or so additional damage at lvl18 for Ashe, assuming that at least natural AD/lvl is included. Guess that's not worth it then. Too bad. Well thanks for clearing that up anyways. Back to the good old pure AD.

Every Wiki etc. I read says that Lichbane/Sheen/Tri don't stack.

Ok, tested it and it seams it really dosn't work
When having lich bane and sheen the sheen icon flashes at the moment of using skill - that confused me, but only Lich bane effect is used.
One cannot out-kwanro Kwanro. -Trap
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
August 05 2010 20:09 GMT
#10444
On August 06 2010 04:48 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 04:34 STS17 wrote:
On August 06 2010 04:30 Southlight wrote:
Sheen's just the strongest early-game damage item for a non-auto-attack damage-based hero (ie. Ezreal, who hits people once every 3 seconds, and Poppy), especially as it gives a bit of AP and mana pool. It scales really badly unless you turn it into Lichbane.


Hence why you can upgrade it ^^

Well, you're not going to build Lichbane on Ezreal, unless you're building ap but that's different. That's why I don't build sheen on ad ez, I'd rather get my fast bloodthirsters.


i like building sheen on ezreal

it's like 70 damage, that's like 10% of someones health early on lol. fast bloodthirster is okay but it feels kind of eh, it's just sheen + brutalizer except less damage but lifesteal
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 05 2010 20:11 GMT
#10445
On August 06 2010 05:09 shawster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 04:48 HazMat wrote:
On August 06 2010 04:34 STS17 wrote:
On August 06 2010 04:30 Southlight wrote:
Sheen's just the strongest early-game damage item for a non-auto-attack damage-based hero (ie. Ezreal, who hits people once every 3 seconds, and Poppy), especially as it gives a bit of AP and mana pool. It scales really badly unless you turn it into Lichbane.


Hence why you can upgrade it ^^

Well, you're not going to build Lichbane on Ezreal, unless you're building ap but that's different. That's why I don't build sheen on ad ez, I'd rather get my fast bloodthirsters.


i like building sheen on ezreal

it's like 70 damage, that's like 10% of someones health early on lol. fast bloodthirster is okay but it feels kind of eh, it's just sheen + brutalizer except less damage but lifesteal

it's eventually more damage and the damage persists to your autoattacking. the only time the comparison is even slightly fair is during harassment.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 05 2010 20:22 GMT
#10446
The CDR on brutalizer makes it worth it in 90% of situations that you think "what do i need, my character auto-attacks"
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 20:25:50
August 05 2010 20:25 GMT
#10447
I use this LINQ function:

if(SmashGizmo.Champion.Abilities.Count(a => a.DamageType == DamageTypes.Physical) > 0)
{
getBrutalizer();
}
else
{
dontGetBrutalizer();
}
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
August 05 2010 20:30 GMT
#10448
hmm, i always rushed triforce on ezreal, esp since i could usually farm all 3 items in ~15-20 minutes unless i was in a particularly brutal lane, ill try thirsters/cleaver + brutalizer instead. i really liked triforce tho, not cause of the sheen, but cause of the phage, the slow + the extra hp just seems like gold on him, so mybe cleaver+thirsters+frozen mallet?
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 05 2010 20:33 GMT
#10449
On August 06 2010 04:49 Mogwai wrote:
Turkey got called a noob ezreal last night for building Black Cleaver after Brutalizer. I Thought it was pretty funny.

EDIT: oh yea, and then 2 minutes later he got a quadra kill, rofl



I got a quadra kill 2 days ago on Ezreal by accident.
I was 0-3-6 then i pressed all my buttons and ks'd the entire team with my ult.
After the battle I was like "shit who got all the.... oohhh" as the announcer said quadra kill
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 05 2010 20:34 GMT
#10450
On August 06 2010 05:30 barbsq wrote:
hmm, i always rushed triforce on ezreal, esp since i could usually farm all 3 items in ~15-20 minutes unless i was in a particularly brutal lane, ill try thirsters/cleaver + brutalizer instead. i really liked triforce tho, not cause of the sheen, but cause of the phage, the slow + the extra hp just seems like gold on him, so mybe cleaver+thirsters+frozen mallet?



I used to rush phage on ezreal like a million years ago but i found the HP isnt necessary if you're careful where you place yourself with arcane shift. I realized you don't really need the hp if you don't constantly arcane shift into a pile of enemy champions lol
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 05 2010 20:38 GMT
#10451
On August 06 2010 05:33 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 04:49 Mogwai wrote:
Turkey got called a noob ezreal last night for building Black Cleaver after Brutalizer. I Thought it was pretty funny.

EDIT: oh yea, and then 2 minutes later he got a quadra kill, rofl



I got a quadra kill 2 days ago on Ezreal by accident.
I was 0-3-6 then i pressed all my buttons and ks'd the entire team with my ult.
After the battle I was like "shit who got all the.... oohhh" as the announcer said quadra kill


Speaking of accidents I accidentally aced the entire enemy team as heimer because (despite me not even being in the lane at all) the enemy team refused to kill my single turret ant it proceeded to shoot all of them while they stood there and took it. I wasn't even aware of the turret being alive until I magically kill stole all five of them.

Next thing I see is this in the chat:

Enemy: wtf heimer lol
me: I did something? I was just buying Zhonya's
Enemy: Well you aced us
me: how? I'm in base.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
August 05 2010 20:39 GMT
#10452
On August 06 2010 05:34 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 05:30 barbsq wrote:
hmm, i always rushed triforce on ezreal, esp since i could usually farm all 3 items in ~15-20 minutes unless i was in a particularly brutal lane, ill try thirsters/cleaver + brutalizer instead. i really liked triforce tho, not cause of the sheen, but cause of the phage, the slow + the extra hp just seems like gold on him, so mybe cleaver+thirsters+frozen mallet?



I used to rush phage on ezreal like a million years ago but i found the HP isnt necessary if you're careful where you place yourself with arcane shift. I realized you don't really need the hp if you don't constantly arcane shift into a pile of enemy champions lol


imo, phage is rarely a thing to be rushed. ofc, as i have stated before, i have issues when it comes to being in the right place for ranged carries to be, but i still would try to go for that bfsword (or the sheen as i have done in the past) before the phage, simply because you need the dmg before the survivability. With just a phage, most players i encounter are good enough to ingore the ez that doesnt do shit and figure out who is actually dealing dmg on my team and go for them instead (this exact scenario has only happened twice tho, both times i tried rushing phage be4 sheen)
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
August 05 2010 20:41 GMT
#10453
On August 06 2010 04:52 Shikyo wrote:
triforce is kind of okay on ezreal although I think it's way too costy and I'd much rather just get a bloodthirster =S


id rather get sheen and not finish it, then get other stuff. idk i find triforce's stats kinda underwhelming. so most of the time i leave my sheen as sheen.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 05 2010 20:55 GMT
#10454
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 05 2010 20:55 GMT
#10455
On August 06 2010 05:39 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 05:34 Phrost wrote:
On August 06 2010 05:30 barbsq wrote:
hmm, i always rushed triforce on ezreal, esp since i could usually farm all 3 items in ~15-20 minutes unless i was in a particularly brutal lane, ill try thirsters/cleaver + brutalizer instead. i really liked triforce tho, not cause of the sheen, but cause of the phage, the slow + the extra hp just seems like gold on him, so mybe cleaver+thirsters+frozen mallet?



I used to rush phage on ezreal like a million years ago but i found the HP isnt necessary if you're careful where you place yourself with arcane shift. I realized you don't really need the hp if you don't constantly arcane shift into a pile of enemy champions lol


imo, phage is rarely a thing to be rushed. ofc, as i have stated before, i have issues when it comes to being in the right place for ranged carries to be, but i still would try to go for that bfsword (or the sheen as i have done in the past) before the phage, simply because you need the dmg before the survivability. With just a phage, most players i encounter are good enough to ingore the ez that doesnt do shit and figure out who is actually dealing dmg on my team and go for them instead (this exact scenario has only happened twice tho, both times i tried rushing phage be4 sheen)



Sorry I ment phage after sheen (that's what I call rushing it =p)
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 21:04:08
August 05 2010 21:02 GMT
#10456
On August 06 2010 05:55 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 05:39 barbsq wrote:
On August 06 2010 05:34 Phrost wrote:
On August 06 2010 05:30 barbsq wrote:
hmm, i always rushed triforce on ezreal, esp since i could usually farm all 3 items in ~15-20 minutes unless i was in a particularly brutal lane, ill try thirsters/cleaver + brutalizer instead. i really liked triforce tho, not cause of the sheen, but cause of the phage, the slow + the extra hp just seems like gold on him, so mybe cleaver+thirsters+frozen mallet?



I used to rush phage on ezreal like a million years ago but i found the HP isnt necessary if you're careful where you place yourself with arcane shift. I realized you don't really need the hp if you don't constantly arcane shift into a pile of enemy champions lol


imo, phage is rarely a thing to be rushed. ofc, as i have stated before, i have issues when it comes to being in the right place for ranged carries to be, but i still would try to go for that bfsword (or the sheen as i have done in the past) before the phage, simply because you need the dmg before the survivability. With just a phage, most players i encounter are good enough to ingore the ez that doesnt do shit and figure out who is actually dealing dmg on my team and go for them instead (this exact scenario has only happened twice tho, both times i tried rushing phage be4 sheen)



Sorry I ment phage after sheen (that's what I call rushing it =p)


haha, thats true, 9 times out of 10 i have at least enough money to buy sheen+phage on my first b, im gonna try spending that money on bfsword + bruta mybe instead, then finish bf item and go phage-> bf item #2 -> frozen

edit: srsly looking forward to that mars attacks upgrade, dat shit needed to be in there from day 1
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 05 2010 21:04 GMT
#10457
On August 06 2010 06:02 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 05:55 Phrost wrote:
On August 06 2010 05:39 barbsq wrote:
On August 06 2010 05:34 Phrost wrote:
On August 06 2010 05:30 barbsq wrote:
hmm, i always rushed triforce on ezreal, esp since i could usually farm all 3 items in ~15-20 minutes unless i was in a particularly brutal lane, ill try thirsters/cleaver + brutalizer instead. i really liked triforce tho, not cause of the sheen, but cause of the phage, the slow + the extra hp just seems like gold on him, so mybe cleaver+thirsters+frozen mallet?



I used to rush phage on ezreal like a million years ago but i found the HP isnt necessary if you're careful where you place yourself with arcane shift. I realized you don't really need the hp if you don't constantly arcane shift into a pile of enemy champions lol


imo, phage is rarely a thing to be rushed. ofc, as i have stated before, i have issues when it comes to being in the right place for ranged carries to be, but i still would try to go for that bfsword (or the sheen as i have done in the past) before the phage, simply because you need the dmg before the survivability. With just a phage, most players i encounter are good enough to ingore the ez that doesnt do shit and figure out who is actually dealing dmg on my team and go for them instead (this exact scenario has only happened twice tho, both times i tried rushing phage be4 sheen)



Sorry I ment phage after sheen (that's what I call rushing it =p)


haha, thats true, 9 times out of 10 i have at least enough money to buy sheen+phage on my first b, im gonna try spending that money on bfsword + bruta mybe instead, then finish bf item and go phage-> bf item #2 -> frozen

edit: srsly looking forward to that mars attacks upgrade, dat shit needed to be in there from day 1



I've been getting doran's ring, boots, sheen, brutalizer, 2 bf swords, then 2 bloodthirsters.

If the game isnt over by then I do whatever.... maybe buy a banshee's veil or something
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
August 05 2010 21:10 GMT
#10458
On August 06 2010 05:11 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 05:09 shawster wrote:
On August 06 2010 04:48 HazMat wrote:
On August 06 2010 04:34 STS17 wrote:
On August 06 2010 04:30 Southlight wrote:
Sheen's just the strongest early-game damage item for a non-auto-attack damage-based hero (ie. Ezreal, who hits people once every 3 seconds, and Poppy), especially as it gives a bit of AP and mana pool. It scales really badly unless you turn it into Lichbane.


Hence why you can upgrade it ^^

Well, you're not going to build Lichbane on Ezreal, unless you're building ap but that's different. That's why I don't build sheen on ad ez, I'd rather get my fast bloodthirsters.


i like building sheen on ezreal

it's like 70 damage, that's like 10% of someones health early on lol. fast bloodthirster is okay but it feels kind of eh, it's just sheen + brutalizer except less damage but lifesteal

it's eventually more damage and the damage persists to your autoattacking. the only time the comparison is even slightly fair is during harassment.


i find most of your early game dmg comes from q anyways, but it's all personal preference
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
August 05 2010 21:11 GMT
#10459
On August 06 2010 05:25 Mogwai wrote:
I use this LINQ function:

if(SmashGizmo.Champion.Abilities.Count(a => a.DamageType == DamageTypes.Physical) > 0)
{
getBrutalizer();
}
else
{
dontGetBrutalizer();
}


Learn2LINQ, n00b. You want the boolean "Any" extension method.
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 21:16:17
August 05 2010 21:13 GMT
#10460
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i hate this game.

oh and mundo and ez, the two feediest players with absolutely no DPS, had the highest ELOs.

cool.
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