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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 28 2010 14:58 GMT
#9081
Anyways. Apparently grouping up everyone at the opposing team's blue buff is quite common so, i have a new strategy.
Ward your own blue buff if you have a jungler, or spot for them. Once you see them coming/positioning to take your blue buff with a ward, all head to the top lane. As they are doing blue buff, take down their tower!
:O must try in a ranked game
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 28 2010 14:58 GMT
#9082
but there are only 2 summoner spell slots, where will you put ghost if you already have smite and fortify? :p
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 28 2010 14:59 GMT
#9083
On July 28 2010 23:57 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 23:55 Phrost wrote:
So on the upside, Vladimir solomid against heimerdinger is a good lane. He can't push if you focus Q on his turrets.


lol XD

What do people think of Vlad? He's been pretty underwhelming from an observer's standpoint so far... far cry from the OP OP OP wails of the peasants.


He needs to farm hard but he's definitely more viable than the rice machines that they recently released (kog'maw and malzahar).

His early game is awful but he can single handedly shift a team fight in your favor with a well placed ult and Q/E spam.

His built in zhonya's is just icing on the cake really, it costs a lot of hp so you can't spam it but its pretty good for escaping and scouting
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 28 2010 15:01 GMT
#9084
On July 28 2010 23:57 STS17 wrote:
Heimer can't push if anyone focuses on his turrets (assume ranged hero) the only real question is how much of a hit to your ability to farm does killing his turrets penalize you (from not being able to last-hit minions for example)



It actually makes it easier to last hit because you're getting the 12g from the turret and at rank 5 his Q only has a 2 sec cd so you can spam it.

Vladimir is pretty decent about last hitting under his tower too, E + auto attack should finish off a caster minion before the tower can shoot its 2nd shot.

The other thing about Q that makes him good against heimer is that it heals also, so whatever damage you took from the turret while killing it is usually negated.
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STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 15:05:29
July 28 2010 15:04 GMT
#9085
In a game the opposing team got Baron as we were running to go stop them, they finished it before we could get there and we caught them moving out of baron's spawn. The five of them immediately killed three of us. Taric and Vlad aced their team in about 3 seconds flat because of his ulti and pool of blood.

2v5 and they had baron advantage, explain why people call him OP?
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 28 2010 15:09 GMT
#9086
On July 29 2010 00:04 STS17 wrote:
In a game the opposing team got Baron as we were running to go stop them, they finished it before we could get there and we caught them moving out of baron's spawn. The five of them immediately killed three of us. Taric and Vlad aced their team in about 3 seconds flat because of his ulti and pool of blood.

2v5 and they had baron advantage, explain why people call him OP?


They were probably already close to dead. Vladimir works extremely well with a healer and does a ton of aoe damage. If you didn't focus him down fast then yes he probably can aoe a whole team with REQ
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 28 2010 15:12 GMT
#9087
Been itching to get back to playing Udyr heavily, what runes would people run on him? I've been thinking
Quints: MSpeed
Marks: ASpeed
Seals: Dodge
Glyphs: ASpeed

But I'm not really sure :x
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 28 2010 15:15 GMT
#9088
AS returns on glyphs are pretty low iirc, might be better doing CDR or Mres.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 28 2010 15:17 GMT
#9089
Glyphs lowest priority for me at the moment, so I'd be fine sticking to MRes or just MP5PL. It's mostly the Quints I'm pondering, and wondering what to do with Seals.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 28 2010 15:21 GMT
#9090
he gets passive dodge with monkey's agility, right? so the idea is to get nimbleness and a decent dodge change to help with chasing/escaping, right? makes sense to me.

I <3 my MSpeed Quints and on someone like udyr who's just running around all the time without a built in flash attack, I think they make perfect sense unless you need survivability to jungle properly.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 15:24:12
July 28 2010 15:23 GMT
#9091
IIRC I shouldn't need +93 HP for jungling, but I'd have to double-check. Worst-case scenario I just re-route my jungling path, it's nothing earth-shattering.

He gets passive dodge with MAgility but it's not that much, like 6% with some tiny stacks. It was pretty wicked this morning running Swiftness (no CC other team lulz) and getting a nimble proc to run down Kayle, though.

Edit:
On the note of runes I need to get myself a full set of armor runes at some point to do that lame Taric strat.
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oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 15:35:56
July 28 2010 15:32 GMT
#9092
Has anyone tried opening boots, then red+blue elixir first trip back on Vladamir? I'm not sure it'd work but it I am positive it'd be hilarious.

Edit: Trying this on Kayle in my next unranked game.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 28 2010 15:33 GMT
#9093
even just another 6% should put you at 12-13% with your passive, runes, and masteries, which should be fairly reliable I think.

what taric strat is that?

also, LMAO, apparently this patch made it so that Pantheon's auto-attacks do literally 0 damage until you take a point in shitty old heartseeker strike.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 28 2010 15:35 GMT
#9094
Yiruru was telling me about someone who mained Taric and had a full set of armor runes, ended up with like 140 armor at level 1. Basically was untouchable.
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Nafaltar
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany302 Posts
July 28 2010 15:37 GMT
#9095
MA is 3% per stack so 9% max.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 28 2010 15:38 GMT
#9096
On July 29 2010 00:35 Southlight wrote:
Yiruru was telling me about someone who mained Taric and had a full set of armor runes, ended up with like 140 armor at level 1. Basically was untouchable.

have you seen my bear tibbers?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
July 28 2010 15:38 GMT
#9097
On July 29 2010 00:35 Southlight wrote:
Yiruru was telling me about someone who mained Taric and had a full set of armor runes, ended up with like 140 armor at level 1. Basically was untouchable.


Why Taric? If you're gonna do this, I'd say do it on Rammus.
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
July 28 2010 15:38 GMT
#9098
On July 29 2010 00:33 Mogwai wrote:
also, LMAO, apparently this patch made it so that Pantheon's auto-attacks do literally 0 damage until you take a point in shitty old heartseeker strike.


at least it sounds like they are playing around with changing him?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 28 2010 15:44 GMT
#9099
On July 29 2010 00:38 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 00:35 Southlight wrote:
Yiruru was telling me about someone who mained Taric and had a full set of armor runes, ended up with like 140 armor at level 1. Basically was untouchable.

have you seen my bear tibbers?


Spell damage doesn't do enough early on. That's why spellcasters don't bother harassing Taric, it's not efficient mana-wise. And if you can't harass Taric, he'll beat on creep and have infinite mana.

Then if you come in to gank him you're basically looking at nuking down a full HP Taric. It's just not "worth" it.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 28 2010 15:48 GMT
#9100
fighting Taric is never worth it =\, full armor runes or not.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
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