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On July 24 2010 15:10 Phrost wrote:


AD ezreal wins the short term but AP ezreal is better in the long game.


If your average game is over before 40 minutes then you're probably better off going AD. Otherwise AP will do increasingly more damage because you cant auto attack as freely as the game goes on longer making your damage significantly less as you're not boosting any skill except Q.

For AP build I usually go:
Dorans ring
Sheen
Boots
Mejai's Soulstealer
Lichbane
Rylais
Zhonya's



Usually you'll win somewhere around lichbane.

On July 24 2010 15:23 Narwhal wrote:
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I see thank you!

I will try out both though now I uderstand it's only auto attack that really benifits from AD

On July 24 2010 14:59 Phrost wrote:
I've actually been duo queuing with a friend of mine and banning based on our picks.

If they ban first and don't ban heimerdinger or shaco (which means they probably banned shen or xin zhao) I'll ban Taric and Shen or Xin Zhao (whoever isn't banned yet). This puts the other captain in kind of a shitty position because they can only ban one or the other and we get first pick.

If they ban first and they ban heimer or shaco then I ban the other one and Amumu. This makes the last ban come down usually to Xin Zhao or Shen, and since they can only ban one I can pick the other. Amumu is probably the next most powerful tank since he can jungle and by banning him you severely limit the other team's tank choices (as we've banned 2 strong ones and can first pick another)

If I'm banning first I try to make a situation where they have to pick carefully which champions they will pick/ban. Usually I'll start by banning Amumu and react accordingly. The object here is to end up with 3 very strong champions to select and us getting the 2nd two. Usually they will ban 2 of the following: Shen, Xin zhao, heimer, shaco, taric, soraka. If they ban heimer and shaco then congrats, you win! Ban Taric 4th and then you get 2/3 of shen, xin zhao, or soraka. If they don't ban 2 of those well then they are probably playing a specific setup (like the aoe teams of the past) and you can follow up the Amumu ban with a fiddle or morgana ban and you should be good to go. Your team always gets last pick in this scenerio so if you're lucky you can get the 5th person to pick accordingly.

On July 24 2010 18:59 -orb- wrote:


I like this a lot, I hadn't taken the time to think this in-depth into it

On July 24 2010 21:54 Phrost wrote:
AP Ezreal has more potential damage than AD for a number of reasons, but like I said AD plays a lot stronger earlier and can snowball much faster (thus why it seems more powerful and better)

AP Ezreal may not do as much damage with mystic shot but you can do a ton more damage in a team fight by going AP and hitting ~ 2x as hard with W and R on multiple people.

Also the chance that the enemies have more reduction from armor is a lot higher than them having and equal amount of magic resist so your spells should end up doing more of your damage late game anyway. And if they do stack resistances void staff is more cost effective than last whisper (because IAS is not the best stat for ezreal)

On July 24 2010 22:56 Juicyfruit wrote:


The main problem, though, is that there`s really no point in ezreal if all you`re looking for is a solid AoE nuker. AP ezreal used to be the best because he could AoE heal. Even after it was nerfed to 50% heal, it was still super good.

On July 24 2010 23:14 Phrost wrote:


Yes there is. Ezreal is a lot more mobile than 90% of the aoe nukers, and with arcane shift its extremely easy to maximize the amount of damage you can do with your aoes.

Ezreal also has the ability to poke, is a very strong laner, and can farm very effectively. Although he doesn't just jump in and destroy a team with aoe (like fiddle) it is a lot easier to become an effective Ezreal and he can do a lot more when you're behind.

And if you want you can make the same argument against and AD ezreal, why play him when you can play ashe or tristana