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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51690 Posts
July 24 2010 04:11 GMT
#8021
urgh, played a 3-tank team which was extremely frustrating.

i suppose the only way to get around it is to stack mpen/apen items?
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 24 2010 04:16 GMT
#8022
Uta what's your jungle amumu skill order? Do you max W or E first? I've been running with E and I think W is better, but I also got my golem buff stolen lv1 by warwick so I had no mana to use W.

Also is it just HoG stack into sunfire? Heh.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 24 2010 04:19 GMT
#8023
On July 24 2010 13:11 GTR wrote:
urgh, played a 3-tank team which was extremely frustrating.

i suppose the only way to get around it is to stack mpen/apen items?

last whisper and void staff are your friends~

Another one is building relatively tanky yourself.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 04:21:41
July 24 2010 04:20 GMT
#8024
On July 24 2010 13:16 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Uta what's your jungle amumu skill order? Do you max W or E first? I've been running with E and I think W is better, but I also got my golem buff stolen lv1 by warwick so I had no mana to use W.

Also is it just HoG stack into sunfire? Heh.

Open Red elixir 5 pots.
Makes W first, it worked for me and makes Lizard / Dragon / Golem easy. Trantrum tears up wraiths though...
Golem - wolves - their wraiths. Go back for more potions. Dont know the followup, but there is a guide lying around in the last thread... Here it is. (scroll down a little bit, more guides in 1 post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=106034&currentpage=80#1593
In the woods, there lurks..
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 24 2010 04:21 GMT
#8025
Red Elixir over cloth armor huh? I figured cloth would be stronger here but I dunno.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 24 2010 04:23 GMT
#8026
uta stacks hogs so it's always cloth at least if you do that
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
July 24 2010 04:28 GMT
#8027
On July 24 2010 13:21 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Red Elixir over cloth armor huh? I figured cloth would be stronger here but I dunno.

It works really well, havednt tried with cloth armor... Maybe I should though.
But Storkhwaiting writes a nice little guide abot it, go read it. It also says what order of creeps you should get - which is really important in the start.
In the woods, there lurks..
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 04:38:30
July 24 2010 04:37 GMT
#8028
On July 24 2010 13:11 GTR wrote:
urgh, played a 3-tank team which was extremely frustrating.

i suppose the only way to get around it is to stack mpen/apen items?

I really think we would have won if we just killed ezreal and teemo.
Every team fight one of them would survive while rammus or shen would be at about 10% hp.

If only I played Blitzcrank before lol.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 24 2010 04:39 GMT
#8029
On July 24 2010 12:54 Shikyo wrote:
Like 40 champions can jungle. O_o Going to learn all of these for when my team has no jungler~

do jungle heimer, just to piss people off
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 24 2010 04:57 GMT
#8030
On July 24 2010 13:39 Mogwai wrote:
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On July 24 2010 12:54 Shikyo wrote:
Like 40 champions can jungle. O_o Going to learn all of these for when my team has no jungler~

do jungle heimer, just to piss people off

I was planning on jungle twitch, gonna be fun to doublebuff gank at 3:30 with that bastard. Actually it'll probably let me snowball like crazy >_>
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 05:07:52
July 24 2010 05:00 GMT
#8031
On July 24 2010 13:16 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Uta what's your jungle amumu skill order? Do you max W or E first? I've been running with E and I think W is better, but I also got my golem buff stolen lv1 by warwick so I had no mana to use W.

Also is it just HoG stack into sunfire? Heh.


I max despair first, makes dragon kills easier.

How I do it:
Golem --> wolves --> wraiths --> lizard --> golem, recall+get red health pendant thing, kill dragon. Dragon should be dead before 6 minutes ez. If you get ninja tabi instead of red health pendant thing, you can kill dragon at 5 minutes because you get there much faster, but I don't like ninja tabi on him.

Of course, the ninja tabi way you're almost guaranteed the dragon kill since nobody expects you to go for him that quickly, but w/e.
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
July 24 2010 05:02 GMT
#8032
omg, i just played 2 games as annie with my friends.. im lvl 14 they're lvl 30.. i carried team both games.. 2nd game i played better than ever.. like every disintigrate hit.. played almost perfect was legendary all game..

now cant play with them again cuz they think im pro t.t and i know next game ill be like 0-4-2 or something

Entusman #51
DreXxiN
Profile Joined July 2010
United States494 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 05:21:46
July 24 2010 05:11 GMT
#8033
With Amumu I rush cloth armor +5 pots and do golem first with E. I get cloth armor because I think rushing Aegis helps the team the most. Aegis is so good rushed and helps team battles way more than anyone thinks I believe. It is a great item all game, but it's usefulness fades as the game goes on.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
July 24 2010 05:18 GMT
#8034
1) Pick Garen.
2) Have TL chobo premade team.
3) Not get anything done for the first 20 or so minutes.
4) Go into 30 minutes down 5 or so kills.
Hilarity ensues
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Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
July 24 2010 05:26 GMT
#8035
I always have Heimer banned then usually just ban a global ult like shen/soraka since any retard is useful with them. Most of the time it just comes down to if i'm getting first pick or if other team is, if i'm getting first pick i try to make it so i can get either Xin or Shaco since they just faceroll pubs.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
July 24 2010 05:39 GMT
#8036
On July 24 2010 14:02 Mobius wrote:
omg, i just played 2 games as annie with my friends.. im lvl 14 they're lvl 30.. i carried team both games.. 2nd game i played better than ever.. like every disintigrate hit.. played almost perfect was legendary all game..

now cant play with them again cuz they think im pro t.t and i know next game ill be like 0-4-2 or something



it's hard to go 0-4-2 with annie, I do have games where I can't do much damage and get a ton of assists though just for the reason your really good in team fights no matter what items you get cause you 2 aoe stuns
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 24 2010 05:59 GMT
#8037
I've actually been duo queuing with a friend of mine and banning based on our picks.

If they ban first and don't ban heimerdinger or shaco (which means they probably banned shen or xin zhao) I'll ban Taric and Shen or Xin Zhao (whoever isn't banned yet). This puts the other captain in kind of a shitty position because they can only ban one or the other and we get first pick.

If they ban first and they ban heimer or shaco then I ban the other one and Amumu. This makes the last ban come down usually to Xin Zhao or Shen, and since they can only ban one I can pick the other. Amumu is probably the next most powerful tank since he can jungle and by banning him you severely limit the other team's tank choices (as we've banned 2 strong ones and can first pick another)

If I'm banning first I try to make a situation where they have to pick carefully which champions they will pick/ban. Usually I'll start by banning Amumu and react accordingly. The object here is to end up with 3 very strong champions to select and us getting the 2nd two. Usually they will ban 2 of the following: Shen, Xin zhao, heimer, shaco, taric, soraka. If they ban heimer and shaco then congrats, you win! Ban Taric 4th and then you get 2/3 of shen, xin zhao, or soraka. If they don't ban 2 of those well then they are probably playing a specific setup (like the aoe teams of the past) and you can follow up the Amumu ban with a fiddle or morgana ban and you should be good to go. Your team always gets last pick in this scenerio so if you're lucky you can get the 5th person to pick accordingly.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Narwhal
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom314 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 06:06:08
July 24 2010 06:05 GMT
#8038
I am lvl 10 now on EU , I started with Ezreal and got used to him but then they changed the free heros so I've been using kassadin.


Waiting for 6.3k IP for Ezreal but I have a quick question.

What's the difference between AP Ezreal and AD Ezreal? Iv'e been using AP and have herd that it's best but iv'e seen a lot of Ezreals in ranked games go for Bloodthirsters ect pure AD + LS.
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 24 2010 06:10 GMT
#8039
On July 24 2010 15:05 Narwhal wrote:
I am lvl 10 now on EU , I started with Ezreal and got used to him but then they changed the free heros so I've been using kassadin.


Waiting for 6.3k IP for Ezreal but I have a quick question.

What's the difference between AP Ezreal and AD Ezreal? Iv'e been using AP and have herd that it's best but iv'e seen a lot of Ezreals in ranked games go for Bloodthirsters ect pure AD + LS.


AD ezreal wins the short term but AP ezreal is better in the long game.


If your average game is over before 40 minutes then you're probably better off going AD. Otherwise AP will do increasingly more damage because you cant auto attack as freely as the game goes on longer making your damage significantly less as you're not boosting any skill except Q.

For AP build I usually go:
Dorans ring
Sheen
Boots
Mejai's Soulstealer
Lichbane
Rylais
Zhonya's



Usually you'll win somewhere around lichbane.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Narwhal
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom314 Posts
July 24 2010 06:23 GMT
#8040
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On July 24 2010 15:10 Phrost wrote:
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On July 24 2010 15:05 Narwhal wrote:
I am lvl 10 now on EU , I started with Ezreal and got used to him but then they changed the free heros so I've been using kassadin.


Waiting for 6.3k IP for Ezreal but I have a quick question.

What's the difference between AP Ezreal and AD Ezreal? Iv'e been using AP and have herd that it's best but iv'e seen a lot of Ezreals in ranked games go for Bloodthirsters ect pure AD + LS.


AD ezreal wins the short term but AP ezreal is better in the long game.


If your average game is over before 40 minutes then you're probably better off going AD. Otherwise AP will do increasingly more damage because you cant auto attack as freely as the game goes on longer making your damage significantly less as you're not boosting any skill except Q.

For AP build I usually go:
Dorans ring
Sheen
Boots
Mejai's Soulstealer
Lichbane
Rylais
Zhonya's



Usually you'll win somewhere around lichbane.


I see thank you!

I will try out both though now I uderstand it's only auto attack that really benifits from AD
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
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