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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 23 2010 22:40 GMT
#7961
No, he gets countered pretty hard, and most of the Heimers I've seen have actually been losing. He's just really boring to play against/with, and if his team backs him up properly it gets even more retarded.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
July 23 2010 22:51 GMT
#7962
heimer is by no means an instant win, but sometimes if there is the proper team comp to support him and if the enemy is largely disorganized, then heimer can force a playstyle on the game after which point there is not a lot the enemy can do to stop it. still, he can be shut down with good teamwork and smart play
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 22:54:23
July 23 2010 22:52 GMT
#7963
On July 24 2010 07:31 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 07:30 radmax86 wrote:
You are playing scrubs if you can get 250cs in 20 min.

With Heimerdinger? Try again~


Since you like posting screenshots so much, lets see you post one with 250 cs by the 20 min mark.

I haven't done the math yet, but to achieve that score I think you are looking at roughly 100% last hitting of every single creep wave (in 1 lane), and you likely wont have a chance to buy anything or leave your lane. It might not even be possible unless you are farming multiple lanes.

barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 22:59:06
July 23 2010 22:57 GMT
#7964
its obviously an exaggeration, but heimer is easily one of the strongest farmers period, if not the strongest. he consistently gets the greatest farm in the least amount of time with all of the decent-good heimers i play with/against

edit: which is why its actually feasible to rush zhonya's on him, most other heroes have to go for another, more easily built item first, then go zhonya's as a 3rd or 4th big ticket item, but heimer can do it as a first.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 23 2010 22:57 GMT
#7965
So what is everyone's take on Malzahar now that everyone doesnt run cleanse (because it doesnt remove debuffs anymore)
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
July 23 2010 23:02 GMT
#7966
imo he is still pretty underwhelming, i dunno if its just cause most malz's i play against are bad, but they never seem to do much, in general except immobilize themselves so that they can get beat on by other ppl, i wonder if trying to do gimmicky things like stun over terrain is feasible/worth it
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 23 2010 23:02 GMT
#7967
Hmm, I think he's nasty in tandem with an AoE stunner or two. When I ran with a Mal with Amumu I was fairly confident he'd take down at least one, assuming nothing interrupted him. He's "solid," though not great or anything.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
July 23 2010 23:06 GMT
#7968
On July 24 2010 07:57 Phrost wrote:
So what is everyone's take on Malzahar now that everyone doesnt run cleanse (because it doesnt remove debuffs anymore)


still dont like him, his ult keeps himself pinned down, and you usually want it to disable someone, but you're just turning a 5v5 into a 4v4 for a majority of the battle. Compare his character design to bane in DoTA, same ult, but bane can disable 2 people by himself, and a 3rd with guinsoo, weaken a fourth with enfeeble. So having him in a battle means you can "outnumber" the opponents, but malazhar doesnt let you do that, the rest of his skills are aoe or single target damage, so you're better off getting another mage that can disable and output damage, without channeling (fiddle, annie, ryze, morgana, etc)
radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
July 23 2010 23:07 GMT
#7969
On July 24 2010 07:57 Phrost wrote:
So what is everyone's take on Malzahar now that everyone doesnt run cleanse (because it doesnt remove debuffs anymore)


I'll let you know when I run into a decent one. I've seen maybe 1 malzahar in the past 100 games. That dude is more rare than corki.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
July 23 2010 23:11 GMT
#7970
:o, i see corky all the time, i agree that i very rarely see malz, and when i do, they dont really do anything memorable
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
July 23 2010 23:14 GMT
#7971
I was shocked to see malzahar as the 6th most played champ on lolbase, as of last patch. I guess he is somewhat popular in other ELO brackets @_@
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 23:19:06
July 23 2010 23:15 GMT
#7972
i think part of the problem in his unpopularity comes from his 6.3k price tag, whereas he is not one of the flashier heroes, so he doesnt get as much attention (i.e. anivia, karthus), kennen suffers a similar fate

edit: also, lolbase doesnt exactly cover the entire lol population, since it is dependent on ppl uploading their stuffs, but it may be enough to be representative, idk, who knows
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 23:19:55
July 23 2010 23:17 GMT
#7973
At higher elos Reidan and someone else seems to main him, that I've seen, I only ran into Reidan in my first game in ranked (3-4 times in nonrank but that was before Cleanse got whacked), and that was a roflstomp cuz three high elos (me + Reidan + Neo) vs 5 scrubs = worthless. When I Amumu'd with the other one the double AoE was nasty, and he'd basically gib someone to make it 5v4. It's tough to say, really. He's a bit like the old Veigar, except not limited to gibbing mana heroes.

Edit:
I could see a team comp, right now, of Amumu + Mal + Garen basically insta-wiping teams that get caught in the triple AoE, and the AoE range is larger than Annie/Malphite.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 23:25:32
July 23 2010 23:23 GMT
#7974
Is there a way to predict where Yi will end up after an alpha strike? As far as I can tell, it's completely random. Sometimes I'll appear right back where I launched from (like my glorious game-winning-baron-snipe-from-jungle-side), other times I'll be standing right next to one of the champions I hit. Other times it'll completely bug out, like hitting golem and ending up on the other side of the trees.

To illustrate the import of this, I drew a picture:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

You do not want to land in front of your creeps.
it's my first day
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 23:41:06
July 23 2010 23:26 GMT
#7975
On July 24 2010 08:11 barbsq wrote:
:o, i see corky all the time, i agree that i very rarely see malz, and when i do, they dont really do anything memorable


I started playing Corki again after I found out that Maknoon switched to him. He really is an underrated hero that needs more love. People keep giving me shit for picking Corki and are amazed when I start carrying them and racking up the triple kills. He just takes finesse to play well, as he's pretty squishy and needs to get close to hit with gatling gun. It's also kinda cool that nobody really knows how dangerous he can be, assume he's bad, don't focus fire him, and let him kill everybody with aoe damage from hell. That proabably wont happen at higher levels, but its crazy how much burst you can do to a team with a crit rocket, bomb and gatling gun.

I think most Corki's build him wrong and go right for the bf-sword like tristana players instead of getting a quick sheen into trinity force to give him a far stronger mid-game. I'm having much more success with that build and I'm damn ok with people thinking he's bad, they probably have no idea how to deal with him.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 23 2010 23:27 GMT
#7976
On July 24 2010 08:23 myopia wrote:
Is there a way to predict where Yi will end up after an alpha strike? As far as I can tell, it's completely random. Sometimes I'll appear right back where I launched from (like my glorious game-winning-baron-snipe-from-jungle-side), other times I'll be standing right next to one of the champions I hit. Other times it'll completely bug out, like hitting golem and ending up on the other side of the trees.

To illustrate the import of this, I drew a picture:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

You do not want to land in front of your creeps.


He ends on whatever he targeted first (usually the closest thing when he starts)
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 23 2010 23:28 GMT
#7977
On July 24 2010 08:17 Southlight wrote:
At higher elos Reidan and someone else seems to main him, that I've seen, I only ran into Reidan in my first game in ranked (3-4 times in nonrank but that was before Cleanse got whacked), and that was a roflstomp cuz three high elos (me + Reidan + Neo) vs 5 scrubs = worthless. When I Amumu'd with the other one the double AoE was nasty, and he'd basically gib someone to make it 5v4. It's tough to say, really. He's a bit like the old Veigar, except not limited to gibbing mana heroes.

Edit:
I could see a team comp, right now, of Amumu + Mal + Garen basically insta-wiping teams that get caught in the triple AoE, and the AoE range is larger than Annie/Malphite.


Fiddle, amumu, morgana, malzahar, Ezreal, *creams pants*
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Malderon
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands136 Posts
July 23 2010 23:28 GMT
#7978
On July 24 2010 00:00 jtype wrote:
I went for Cho and it guessed Rammus. Not too bad.


It guessed Cho in one try with me, amazing.

After three tries, it hasn't come up with Nasus yet though. Is Armadon from HoN anything like Nasus?
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
July 23 2010 23:29 GMT
#7979
On July 24 2010 08:27 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 08:23 myopia wrote:
Is there a way to predict where Yi will end up after an alpha strike? As far as I can tell, it's completely random. Sometimes I'll appear right back where I launched from (like my glorious game-winning-baron-snipe-from-jungle-side), other times I'll be standing right next to one of the champions I hit. Other times it'll completely bug out, like hitting golem and ending up on the other side of the trees.

To illustrate the import of this, I drew a picture:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

You do not want to land in front of your creeps.


He ends on whatever he targeted first (usually the closest thing when he starts)


And if the thing you hit first (Baron) was killed, you'll pop at your launch point?
it's my first day
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 23:31:49
July 23 2010 23:31 GMT
#7980
On July 24 2010 08:29 myopia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 08:27 Phrost wrote:
On July 24 2010 08:23 myopia wrote:
Is there a way to predict where Yi will end up after an alpha strike? As far as I can tell, it's completely random. Sometimes I'll appear right back where I launched from (like my glorious game-winning-baron-snipe-from-jungle-side), other times I'll be standing right next to one of the champions I hit. Other times it'll completely bug out, like hitting golem and ending up on the other side of the trees.

To illustrate the import of this, I drew a picture:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

You do not want to land in front of your creeps.


He ends on whatever he targeted first (usually the closest thing when he starts)


And if the thing you hit first (Baron) was killed, you'll pop at your launch point?


I'm not really sure what happens if it dies before you finish. I want to say end up where it died.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
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